Fed Up with Dealer, want to take car back, can i?

manti452

Howdy all,

Appreciate this is not a legal forum and am posting as I've gotten sage advice here in the past. Just looking for any sensible input.

Purchased a 2010 Corsa D SXI about 3.5 months ago from a Seller out on the Naas Rd area. Condition of the car was good, mileage looked right etc etc. Car was pulling to the left and it's been back 4 times to have this looked into, with no resolution. Separate mechanic tells me "that model is known to pull left".. either way it's fast ruining my driving experience. Yeah, I know it' s a Corsa not a top end motor but still.

Here's the reason I want to know if I can take it back. I'm still waiting for the change of ownership to go through and the new papers to come to me. What was meant to take 10 working days is dragging on and the car is now out of tax. I cannot renew myself as I'm not the owner (as best I can find out) Chasing the dealer is getting me nowhere and DOT tells me he's not the owner of the car, but I can do it myself but will have to engage a solicitor and another dealer to certify the car. This sounds like a lot of hassle and would incur costs on me so with that and the drive issue I'm feeling like I want to bring it back and say here, take it back and give me my money back. I'm not being dick just fed up of being run around..

any advice lads?

whippet

unfortunately you are trapped in the dublin equiv of the Bermuda triangle. Naas Road / Ballymount and car dealers are a bad mix.

I would imagine you are getting a run around and will probably never legitimately get any joy by the sounds of it. Cut your losses with the dealer .. go and get it registered yourself and have a local indy mechanic have a look at the problem with the pulling.

Irishcrx

Did the mechanic you brought it to give any indication of why it is pulling , is it the tracking? track rod ends damaged? , has it been in a crash?

Honestly , bring it to a good mechanic and have it repaired and be done with the hassle of it. They have your money and aren't interested in repairing the car for you. At worst they know what's wrong and don't want to fix it.

I'd never ever buy from a dealer , nothing but complaints from people on here , everywhere about them. Naas Road always popping up as well , seems to be a dodgy dealer hot spot. Buying second hand , go private, spend the extra few quid you save on bringing a good mechanic to check the car over and the rest aside should something go wrong , you'll have far less hassle and misery.

Best of luck.

manti452

Cheers lads. Appreciate the advice. The mechanic did notice some wear on the bushings (not sure on that sp) but it shouldn't cause a strong pull to the left according to him.

I did have a close call with a dodgy seller out walkinstown way and got some great tips from others here on him. The current guy felt right when I dealt with him and those with me felt he was genuine. High quality stock, still there, highly visible location and said he was starting up on his own after years working for others.

If I bite the bullet and front up for everything myself, could I hit him with a solicitors letter or small claims I wonder for the costs incurred?

bazz26

My money is on the dealer not getting the log book off the previous owner when he bought the car and he is fobbing you off rather than sorting it out. If you are having this aggro getting the dealer to sort out the log book for you then imagine trying to get a refund off them.

Your best bet is to sort out the change of ownership yourself, draw a line under the experience and best stick to reputable dealers in future.

manti452

bazz26 wrote: »

Your best bet is to sort out the change of ownership yourself, draw a line under the experience and best stick to reputable dealers in future.

Thanks for the advice, I did my best to stay clear of dodgy looking dealers. Guess we can't all be perfect. Interesting though there's clearly many schools of thought on this given the advice above to go private all the time

mullingar

Id drive thought the M50 and not pay. The regged owner will get the fine in the post and will hopefully contact the seller to see whats going on

Give it 1 week and contact eflow to pay the €3+€3 fine before it mushrooms.

Cee-Jay-Cee

mullingar wrote: »

Id drive thought the M50 and not pay. The regged owner will get the fine in the post and will hopefully contact the seller to see whats going on

Give it 1 week and contact eflow to pay the €3+€3 fine before it mushrooms.

doesn't really work great in practice as last owner simply sends off the form saying he sold the car to xxx and they in turn say they sold it to you so you could end up with the fines yourself.

coylemj

The title of the thread and the question you ask in your first post ....

manti452 wrote: »

Here's the reason I want to know if I can take it back. ...

I'm feeling like I want to bring it back and say here, take it back and give me my money back. I'm not being dick just fed up of being run around..

suggests that you think there is some kind of consumer 'nuclear option' you can invoke like go back and ask for your money back.

Seriously? You've been dicked around with four failed attempts to fix the steering and the dealer still hasn't sorted the change of ownership paperwork.

Good luck asking for your money back.

goochy

Bring it too bolands of clondalkin opel service agent say u live locally and hope to use them for servicing in future get them to check out dont mention u only bought it from dealer

Del2005

manti452 wrote: »

Thanks for the advice, I did my best to stay clear of dodgy looking dealers. Guess we can't all be perfect. Interesting though there's clearly many schools of thought on this given the advice above to go private all the time

You can just as easily be scammed private as dealer and the fact that you have nearly zero come back on a private sale means that you have to treat every purchase the same. Bring someone who knows more about cars than you do and get everything fixed before you hand over a cent.

goochy

Yes bad used cars belonged to private owners once and if u think all private sellers are honest ur very naive

manti452

manti452 wrote: »

Howdy all,

Appreciate this is not a legal forum and am posting as I've gotten sage advice here in the past. Just looking for any sensible input.

Purchased a 2010 Corsa D SXI about 3.5 months ago from a Seller out on the Naas Rd area. Condition of the car was good, mileage looked right etc etc. Car was pulling to the left and it's been back 4 times to have this looked into, with no resolution. Separate mechanic tells me "that model is known to pull left".. either way it's fast ruining my driving experience. Yeah, I know it' s a Corsa not a top end motor but still.

Here's the reason I want to know if I can take it back. I'm still waiting for the change of ownership to go through and the new papers to come to me. What was meant to take 10 working days is dragging on and the car is now out of tax. I cannot renew myself as I'm not the owner (as best I can find out) Chasing the dealer is getting me nowhere and DOT tells me he's not the owner of the car, but I can do it myself but will have to engage a solicitor and another dealer to certify the car. This sounds like a lot of hassle and would incur costs on me so with that and the drive issue I'm feeling like I want to bring it back and say here, take it back and give me my money back. I'm not being dick just fed up of being run around..

any advice lads?

This is ridiculous, bring the car into his garage, tell him to sort it out and get the change of ownership on the spot or you will approach every customer walking to the garage and tell them about your horrible experience, it will be sorted straight away.

Del2005

Kallie Howling Six-pack wrote: »

This is ridiculous, bring the car into his garage, tell him to sort it out and get the change of ownership on the spot or you will approach every customer walking to the garage and tell them about your horrible experience, it will be sorted straight away.

There are some places in the Naas road area that doesn't happen. They are the ones with different trading names every few weeks and loads of posts on this and other forums.

They know what they are selling and to who they are selling.

Del2005

Del2005 wrote: »

There are some places in the Naas road area that doesn't happen. They are the ones with different trading names every few weeks and loads of posts on this and other forums.

They know what they are selling and to who they are selling.

I know they do, but they should still stand by a bloody change of ownership. Its up to them to take the log book. It does work though.

Obviously a completely different situation but a friends dad bought a brand new Range Rover, the gear box went and they wouldn't cover it (don't know why possible off roading) , so he parked outside the dealership and approached every customer walking in. They gave him his cash back a few hours later.

Del2005

Kallie Howling Six-pack wrote: »

I know they do, but they should still stand by a bloody change of ownership. Its up to them to take the log book. It does work though.

Obviously a completely different situation but a friends dad bought a brand new Range Rover, the gear box went and they wouldn't cover it (don't know why possible off roading) , so he parked outside the dealership and approached every customer walking in. They gave him his cash back a few hours later.

That works for a company with a reputation to protect, the companies in the Naas road area have a reputation but it's not one that a good business would want.

TheChizler

Get that tax sorted soon as you can or there will be penalties, happened myself where I was waiting for the registration cert and in the meantime tax expired and I got caught, thought there was exemptions when the sale of a car happens at the end of the month but no such thing as sensible as that. The person in the tax office said that I could have taxed it without the cert which I wasn't aware of.