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Who is going to remove the Grafitti?

  • 29-06-2015 11:14am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭


    Apart from the obvious anger and concerns toward Irish Water, I have two that I would like answered.


    I am curious to know who intends to remove the Grafitti created by Irish Water on the roads and footpaths?

    Everything from arrows to writing and circles. If a child was to do this, they would be reprimanded.


    It is a well know fact that many Burglaries have taken place when a mark was previously left outside a house indicating a place to burgle.



    Also, many vans have caused quite a scare to many of the elderly in my area as they were not displaying any signs of Irish Water. You can imagine the fear it puts into those who see a van pulling up at their house with no indications as to who they are and then driving away.




    This is something that needs to be enforced by you towards your contractors more vigilantly .


    I await your reply to my concerns.


    Failing that, should I be contacting the Garda about the above two activities?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    The paint is only temporary and will fade within 2 - 3 months maximum, however with our lovely rainy weather, should be much less than that.

    Also the vans, yes, most are unmarked but its quite obvious what they are doing, however they probably should be marked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    The paint is only temporary and will fade within 2 - 3 months maximum, however with our lovely rainy weather, should be much less than that.

    Also the vans, yes, most are unmarked but its quite obvious what they are doing, however they probably should be marked.
    That's not the point, many people have a huge amount of pride in their home and surroundings and the last thing anyone wants to see is stupid markings outside their home, not to mention the implications it may have towards burglar related crimes. With all the markings created by the contractor, a simple little extra line or whatnot may be the new "code" for these crimes without anyone knowing. 

    As for your comment about the vans!!! It's not quite obvious for my 82 year old neighbour living alone out in the Country. I had to come back from work after she called me to see what was going on. 
    That's just one example, hom many more has it happened to throughout the Country!!  


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    The location of pipes and cables have to be marked for safety reason.

    Also that marking houses for burglaries thing is a myth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    kneemos wrote: »
    The location of pipes and cables have to be marked for safety reason.

    Also that marking houses for burglaries thing is a myth.
    The markings that are in place have nothing to do with underground services in this particular case and possibly in many others. They are showing where to put the meter.

    That "myth" is a reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Odelay


    hallo dare wrote: »
    The markings that are in place have nothing to do with underground services in this particular case and possibly in many others. They are showing where to put the meter.

    That "myth" is a reality.

    It is a myth. Burglars do not mark walls for others to rob. It is a complete urban legend that The Daily Mail or some other rag printed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    hallo dare wrote: »
    The markings that are in place have nothing to do with underground services in this particular case and possibly in many others. They are showing where to put the meter.

    That "myth" is a reality.


    Well how else would they know where to put it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    kneemos wrote: »
    hallo dare wrote: »
    The markings that are in place have nothing to do with underground services in this particular case and possibly in many others. They are showing where to put the meter.

    That "myth" is a reality.


    Well how else would they know where to put it?
    An "engineer" marks it and then stands back while the Contractors are working. I've seen it going on with every meter they have installed round here.

    Why does he need to be marking it> Can he/she not point to where to dig? It's not as if they are heading off to another area to start marking, they are standing babysitting the Contractor.

    Anyway, I started this thread to get a reply from IW on their methods, not for anyone elses remarks.

    Regards. 


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭KTR1C


    Odelay wrote: »
    hallo dare wrote: »
    The markings that are in place have nothing to do with underground services in this particular case and possibly in many others. They are showing where to put the meter.

    That "myth" is a reality.

    It is a myth. Burglars do not mark walls for others to rob. It is a complete urban legend that The Daily Mail or some other rag printed.
    Its no myth,   I got a dog 4 years ago just after moving into my house.  Within a week we had  "d" marked on the gate with blue pen.  


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,562 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    How is a marking for meter installation going to make your house more susceptible to burglaries?

    Also I didn't realise there was such a large community of burglars trying to help each other out. Great to see really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭Irish Water: Kim


    Hi hallo dare,

    Thank you for your queries.
    hallo dare wrote: »
    I am curious to know who intends to remove the Graffiti created by Irish Water on the roads and footpaths. Everything from arrows to writing and circles.

    This paint is used during the water meter installation process for Health and Safety reasons to show the other utility services (electricity/ gas), that are in the vicinity of the water meter installation excavations sites. This paint is used, as it is biodegradable and will disappear naturally over time and it is standard use in the construction industry.
    hallo dare wrote: »
    Also, many vans have caused quite a scare to many of the elderly in my area as they were not displaying any signs of Irish Water. You can imagine the fear it puts into those who see a van pulling up at their house with no indications as to who they are and then driving away.

    We can certainly follow up on this matter with our crew in your area. If you could please send the following details via private message we can assist you further:

    - Name;
    - Address and
    - Contact number.

    Thank you in advance. If you have any future queries, please don't hesitate to ask.

    Kind regards,
    Kim


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    Thanks for replying Kim. 

    There are no other underground services in the area. Out in the middle of nowhere, where lines run overhead and there is absolutely no chance of any gas lines. The engineer / contractor just draws lines with an arrow and circles at every shut off valve at every house without consulting a services map or anything. 

    I want to know why there is a need for such a procedure that's ruined the paths and roads round here when there is absolutely no need for such "art" work. Is this a job justification approach? 
    I know you say it will be gone in time, but that's not the question I'm asking. I know it is standard use in the construction industry, as i too work in that industry, and if there was someone like these lads marking for the hell of it then they wouldn't be coming on site the next day, wasting money. 

    I will pm you the area in question. 


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,803 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    hallo dare wrote: »
    Thanks for replying Kim. 

    There are no other underground services in the area. Out in the middle of nowhere, where lines run overhead and there is absolutely no chance of any gas lines. The engineer / contractor just draws lines with an arrow and circles at every shut off valve at every house without consulting a services map or anything. 

    I want to know why there is a need for such a procedure that's ruined the paths and roads round here when there is absolutely no need for such "art" work. Is this a job justification approach? 
    I know you say it will be gone in time, but that's not the question I'm asking. I know it is standard use in the construction industry, as i too work in that industry, and if there was someone like these lads marking for the hell of it then they wouldn't be coming on site the next day, wasting money. 

    I will pm you the area in question. 


    Van can drive along the road and the red paint is easy to spot, saves time by painting a circle rather than having to drive slowly along the road looking and possibly missing one.


  • Company Representative Posts: 485 Verified rep Irish Water: Allanah


    Hi hallo dare,
    hallo dare wrote: »
    There are no other underground services in the area. Out in the middle of nowhere, where lines run overhead and there is absolutely no chance of any gas lines. The engineer / contractor just draws lines with an arrow and circles at every shut off valve at every house without consulting a services map or anything.

    I want to know why there is a need for such a procedure that's ruined the paths and roads round here when there is absolutely no need for such "art" work. Is this a job justification approach?
    I know you say it will be gone in time, but that's not the question I'm asking. I know it is standard use in the construction industry, as i too work in that industry, and if there was someone like these lads marking for the hell of it then they wouldn't be coming on site the next day, wasting money.

    Existing stop valves are marked during the pre-installation surveys to inform the crew whether it is suitable to install a meter in that location. There may also be additional underground services that may require marking for health and safety reason.

    A member of our team has responded to your query via private message.

    I hope this helps.

    Kind regards,
    Allanah


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