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Would you date someone who has opposite political views to you?

  • 28-06-2015 8:59am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭


    She is hot, gsoh, likes the same music, general interests are similar to yours but she is a rabid Shinner whilst you are true Blueshirt (or vice versa) Would you date her? Would this be a deal breaker if you were interested in marrying her?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭bolopapa


    No really, as long as we both understand this differences and never bring up topic relating to eachothers politic views.
    Also when it happens that we get into conversation about such we never try to convince eachother to cross to the otherside.
    But agument about issues like this can be sometime fun if it is done "MATURELY".


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Definitely wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

    Having held almost every political viewpoint imaginable at different points of my life, I would never pigeon hole somebody for their opinions, as long as they maintained an open mind and were willing to explore all possibilities of understanding the way the world works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    I don't care, my partner and most of friends are on a different wave to me anyway, coming out as a conservative in 2015 is akin to coming out as being gay in the 1950s.:D

    There's a reason why they say never discuss politics and religion with your loved ones.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,549 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It depends on how large a part of her identity it comprises. If she's a far-right Mail columnist then probably not. If she works in a professional that's removed from politics as most are then it wouldn't be a problem as long as she is open-minded.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Generally not a deal breaker, in fact I think it would provide for an entertaining relationship.

    But if she was a supporter of Paul Murphy and his "political" rhetoric that would be a deal breaker. Anyone who supports that kinda crap needs to be carted off to an asylum; and with women in try to avoid crazy as much as possible


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 969 ✭✭✭JacquesDeLad


    I don't understand how it could be a problem at start. They're not very bright anyway if they start getting into politics on the first few dates. Even then it could come in handy later in the relationship when you don't listen to them. "Sorry honey, I thought you were talking about politics again, so I just switched off for most of that conversation" :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Depends on how radical she was. If the extent of her political activism was visiting the ballot box each election time, then sure, no problem.

    If she's out lobbing eggs at Joan Burton, or breaking into airports, I'd probably be looking to have 'the talk' fairly swiftly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Depends on how radical she was. If the extent of her political activism was visiting the ballot box each election time, then sure, no problem.

    If she's out lobbing eggs at Joan Burton, or breaking into airports, I'd probably be looking to have 'the talk' fairly swiftly.

    Have the talk as in 'bye bye ' or 'you will have to change your views or we're finished '


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    blackcard wrote: »
    Have the talk as in 'bye bye ' or 'you will have to change your views or we're finished '

    Option #1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    For me it's less about the views that a person holds than the way they're articulated. I'd consider pretty much anyone on the political spectrum, could make for interesting conversations, though I'd probably draw the line at a neonazi or an ISIS supporter. A far bigger turnoff than political differences would be someone who was arrogant about it & who treated anyone who disagreed with them in a condescending matter, assuming they were stupid/ignorant. That's a definite deal breaker for me, whether they're on the left or the right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Not a chance for me. Can't stand the right wing republican "hate the working class" type of people. It isn't attractive in any way, shape or form.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    I have done and would again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    No. That said although I am left wing economically most modern identity politics leaves me cold. If a woman on a date accused me of mansplaining that wouldn't augur well for the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    My partner and I aren't exactly in agreement on politics, but we can happily argue about it for a bit, and then move onto something else. Not trying to convert each other, just we like our debates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I find ideologues and zealots of any kind pretty off putting tbh...my own politics would be fairly fluid and I hope pragmatic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    My husband and I would have opposing views on a lot of things. It's only a big deal if you let it. Day to day it doesn't make a difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    If she turned out to be a Nazi, I would find it a bit of a turn off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    What is this obsession in the last few year with insisting the current government is fascist. Certain Irish news sites will have certain posters insert "blueshirts" into even criticism they make about the current government. Would be more interested to know if there is any real blueshirts in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    If she turned out to be a Nazi, I would find it a bit of a turn off.

    I dunno man...

    http://www.tvqc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/nazi_chic_ii_by_xsick-d4xfft3.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Yes, unless they vote for Daly, Murphy, Wallace or Coppinger, that would be a dealbreaker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    I have some socialist views, lefty liberal views, middle ground views, conservative views and a even few political opinions that would see me labelled as a right wing nut job. Can't understand how anyone could honestly have only views that would all fit perfectly under one specific political banner but sure far play to you if you do. As for the idea that the political views of another might mean I couldn't be with with them.. I can't imagine it tbh.

    If they were a Westboro Baptist Church member it might be a bit awkward at family get togethers though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Date them,no.Ride them,oh yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    Yeah, I have done and would do so again. Probably not if she were an active member of a Party or if politics were a big part of her life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Yeah, because I never talk about politics. The only way that it would become an issue is if they were constantly bringing up the topic and deliberately starting arguments about it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    If she was hot she could be an ISIS fan if she wanted.
    I'd draw the line at Fianna Fail though. Too far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭blackcard


    I dated this girl for a while and politics never came up in conversation until about two months when she said she was going to be tied up for the weekend as she was attending an Ard Dheis, turned out she was a bit of a zealot, it was the beginning of the end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Yes, because I'm not a twat. I am a twat for using the word 'twat', though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭Firefox11



    LOL.. that looks like a 16 year old goth girl who saw a funny hat on ebay and thought: "wow that funny hat would look cool on me"


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know opposites attract for a lot of people, but for me, I think shared values are important.

    Not identical values, but along the same broad strokes as myself is important to me. It's actually something I find attractive in a person, a like mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    I don't see how you could date someone with the opposite views to you.

    So you are pro gay rights but they're not. You are for gun control they're not. You are for social support they're not. Opposite means diametrically opposed not just we disagree on a few minor things.

    I could, of course, date someone who had different views to me but not someone whose views were the opposite of mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Not a NSA agent


    Depends, if they wouldnt have sex because its a form of oppression or started hanging swatikas up then it probably wouldnt work out. Less extreme stuff would be fine, its more how they act about it rather than what they think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    It would depend on what the views are, how strongly they're held, and her reasons for holding them. If she was the kind of tiresome right-wing bore that you regularly find ranting about Muslims, Travellers, single mothers, social welfare, etc on Boards (you know the type... doesn't think an opinion is worth holding unless it's really obnoxious), then definitely not. Actually, if she was that kind of person, there's at least a 99% chance that she'd be male anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,449 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    RayM wrote: »
    It would depend on what the views are, how strongly they're held, and her reasons for holding them. If she was the kind of tiresome right-wing left-wing bore that you regularly find ranting about Muslims, Travellers, single mothers, social welfare, etc on Boards (you know the type... doesn't think an opinion is worth holding unless it's really obnoxious), then definitely not. Actually, if she was that kind of person, there's at least a 99% chance that she'd be male anyway.


    Cuts both ways that does Ray, and applies exactly the same way and all :pac:

    I'm with my wife 17 years, we couldn't be more diametrically opposed, chalk and cheese on many issues and both as stubborn as mules. Actually the fact we're both as stubborn as mules is probably the one thing we have in common. We stay out of each other's way, seems to work well :pac:

    Seriously though, we don't actually stay out of each other's way, we just live very independent lives. Even being married, or dating each other or whatever, doesn't mean you have to lose your own individuality. What matters more is that you can respect each other's individuality.*




    *Even if you can't agree with half the stuff they come out with! :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭Diamond Doll


    Meh political debates aren't part of my day-to-day life, and I like it that way. So I'd probably actually find it hard to find someone with opposite political views to me, as I don't really have all that many strong political views to begin with.

    I do feel strongly about issues such as choice when it comes to pregnancy, and marriage equality, to name just a couple, but I'd consider issues like those to be humanitarian rather than political issues.

    I think I'd respect a person a bit less if I found out that they always voted FF/FG/whatever because that's just what their family had always done. I mean it's not hard to do a bit of research and come to your own conclusions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭my teapot is orange


    Different political views wouldn't be a problem. If they were into anything extreme that was likely to get them into trouble, it would be a deal breaker. I don't need. I do like a person who is as independent, self-sufficient, capable and generally a together adult as much as possible. I don't know if there is any correlation between this and political beliefs. "If you’re not a socialist before you’re twenty-five, you have no heart; if you are a socialist after twenty-five, you have no head." Only joking!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    No. That said although I am left wing economically most modern identity politics leaves me cold. If a woman on a date accused me of mansplaining that wouldn't augur well for the future.

    I thought I was going to say it wouldnt matter but then this post above ^^^^^

    No way would I date a feminist. Its a selfish credo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,734 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I'm married, but anyway. Does dating mean seeing if things could turn into an actual relationship? I presume it does here.

    So, it would depend on how important a particular belief was to me. Some are more important than others.

    Somebody who was in favour of the death penalty? To be honest, I'd basically stop considering them as a potential partner in that case.


    Somebody who wanted to cut the dole by 5%? Not an issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    I don't see how you could date someone with the opposite views to you.

    So you are pro gay rights but they're not. You are for gun control they're not. You are for social support they're not. Opposite means diametrically opposed not just we disagree on a few minor things.

    I could, of course, date someone who had different views to me but not someone whose views were the opposite of mine.

    Its depends though doesn't it, like I would much prefer the idea of somebody who actually hold themselves to their own internal ethics rather than somebody who says a lot of nice things but doesn't hold themselves to them.
    Example of the type of thing I mean is the Gamergate woman with the "cheating is like rape" view.
    If somebody has their own ethics at least if you disagree you know what your getting and to me (hypothetically) that would be more important.
    Also divisions tend to be magnified if its actually a topic that comes up often , I would doubt that it does in most relationships


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