Private spaces taken by non residents

100cormacio100

Looking for a bit of advice.
I live in a large house converted into apartments with 4 private parking spaces.
There are 3 people in the apartments with cars.
For months a car has been parked up in one of the spaces, which didn't bother us until a week ago as we had enough spaces between us. Then 2 new cars arrived and just took our spots, so there is now 1 space left between 3 residents. Nobody knows who owns these cars and its now going on 6 nights that we are having to park on a different street. It's like they've gone on holidays and just dumped their cars there
I've gotten onto my landlord who has so far done nothing.
I've been thinking of going out and buying chains to clamp the cars myself but I'm not sure of the legality of it.
What's the best way to get revenge on these @ssh0les!!!???!!

coylemj

If they are parked on private property, you could pay a man with a recovery truck to lift them and drop them in a pay and display spot on the public road, hopefully somewhere in Dublin city where clamping applies. Better still, dump them on a clearway on a Sunday evening, they will be towed away the next morning.

It will need to be a truck that can lift all four wheels off the ground. Cops or local authority won't get involved if it's private property.

Del2005

coylemj wrote: »

If they are parked on private property, you could pay a man with a recovery truck to lift them and drop them in a pay and display spot on the public road, hopefully somewhere in Dublin city where clamping applies. Better still, dump them on a clearway on a Sunday evening, they will be towed away the next morning.

It will need to be a truck that can lift all four wheels off the ground. Cops or local authority won't get involved if it's private property.

There's a bit more involved in moving someone else's property unless you are a first responder or authorised by a local authority. Being a tenant means that there is nothing you can legally do bar hassle your landlord to get the management company to do something.

coylemj

Del2005 wrote: »

There's a bit more involved in moving someone else's property unless you are a first responder or authorised by a local authority.

Neither of those categories of people are going to get involved.

Del2005 wrote: »

Being a tenant means that there is nothing you can legally do bar hassle your landlord to get the management company to do something.

Where does it say that you can't shift a car that's parked on private property? RTA doesn't apply because it's not a public place. Who is going to do anything about it if they pay someone to move those cars on to the public road? The tenants have paid for the use of those spaces, they are perfectly entitled to take action to regain the use of the facility.

OldmanMondeo

coylemj wrote: »

RTA doesn't apply

Road Traffic Accident???

Atlantic Dawn

Are they on your property or are they spaces outside your house in a public area that anyone can legally park on? If they are on your property I would call they Gardaí and say a suspicious vehicle is parked on your property and you don't know who owns it.

Fred Swanson

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Hachiko

I live in an apartment block, each bay is allocated. Loads of cars are parked all over the place, around bends etc - usually at weekends.

I seen one such car with a ticket now, a nice £100 fine for the owner.

Don't see why things would be anything different in ireland, it rests with the developers/property people.

pa990

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

Road Traffic Accident???

Road Traffic Act 1961 to 2014 as amended

coylemj

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Are they on your property or are they spaces outside your house in a public area that anyone can legally park on? If they are on your property I would call they Gardaí and say a suspicious vehicle is parked on your property and you don't know who owns it.

Gardai will quickly establish that it's not stolen and there's nothing at all 'suspicious' about it. The fact that it's dumped there is something they won't be concerned about, even if it has no insurance or NCT disc - because it's not parked on a public road.

No police action.

aujopimur

I saw a car parked like that one time, amazingly its 4 tyres went flat at once, must have been the hot weather.;)

mullingar

How many apartments in total in the house?

Revenge only causes future hassle.

Best thing to do is to call to each apartment and mention that its 1 space per apartment to be fair to all rent payers.

savagethegoat

You need to make sure of all your facts before you take any action. If you determine that the cars belong to noone in your complex and they definitely are on private land, I'd tow them out of the bays and leave them somewhere convenient, especially if you can do this without them going on the road. It's a bit of a legal minefield though, so camouflage gear and late at night recomended and an alibi

coylemj

savagethegoat wrote: »

You need to make sure of all your facts before you take any action.

Agreed

savagethegoat wrote: »

If you determine that the cars belong to noone in your complex and they definitely are on private land...

OP has already determined this.

savagethegoat wrote: »

... I'd tow them out of the bays and leave them somewhere convenient...

That didn't take long.

savagethegoat wrote: »

It's a bit of a legal minefield though, so camouflage gear and late at night recomended and an alibi

Next time you park in a shopping centre car park, read the Ts & Cs, you'll find it isn't a minefield at all. If someone dumps a car in a privately owned car park and goes on holidays, they get towed, simple.

savagethegoat

No need for the attitude! The flaw in your argument is that that the Residents car Park doesn't have T&C displayed. What's more even if it did, they would be the Landlord's T&C and the right to drag out the cars wouldn't necessarily devolve onto the tenants.

Del2005

coylemj wrote: »

Next time you park in a shopping centre car park, read the Ts & Cs, you'll find it isn't a minefield at all. If someone dumps a car in a privately owned car park and goes on holidays, they get towed, simple.

The majority of the T&C's written aren't legally enforceable. Just like lifting a car you don't own from property you don't own isn't legal.

H3llR4iser

100cormacio100 wrote: »

Looking for a bit of advice.
I live in a large house converted into apartments with 4 private parking spaces.
There are 3 people in the apartments with cars.
For months a car has been parked up in one of the spaces, which didn't bother us until a week ago as we had enough spaces between us. Then 2 new cars arrived and just took our spots, so there is now 1 space left between 3 residents. Nobody knows who owns these cars and its now going on 6 nights that we are having to park on a different street. It's like they've gone on holidays and just dumped their cars there
I've gotten onto my landlord who has so far done nothing.
I've been thinking of going out and buying chains to clamp the cars myself but I'm not sure of the legality of it.
What's the best way to get revenge on these @ssh0les!!!???!!

Are the cars still there, OP? How is this developing? Are these cars just abandoned there? It seems to be a growing issue - we do have a fairly significant problem with this in the office car park.

Building management gets them towed away eventually...is there a company set up for your property?