does Irish water own the rain

iainBB

I have heard on the news and from many different sources that Irish water now clam ownership of rain and you need permission to collect it on my property.

Is this true.

bbsrs

What sources?

iainBB

bbsrs wrote: »

What sources?

One I found on the net with a quick search was from Irish water web site. Section 1.9.7 of this document.

http://www.water.ie/docs/General-Conditions-for-a-Water-and-Wastewater-connection.pdf

godtabh

iainBB wrote: »

One I found on the net with a quick search was from Irish water web site. Section 1.9.7 of this document.

http://www.water.ie/docs/General-Conditions-for-a-Water-and-Wastewater-connection.pdf

That has nothing to do with ownership of rain water. It's to do with discharge of water a network with limited capacity

iainBB

godtabh wrote: »

That has nothing to do with ownership of rain water. It's to do with discharge of water a network with limited capacity

Here then

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_znyCZgoc&feature=youtu.be


That is why I am asking Irish water the question

there is a lot of rumours about it.

galljga1

iainBB wrote: »

godtabh wrote: »

That has nothing to do with ownership of rain water. It's to do with discharge of water a network with limited capacity

Here then

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_znyCZgoc&feature=youtu.be


That is why I am asking Irish water the question

there is a lot of rumours about it.

The first post after the vid sums it up:

"They didn't claim ownership of the rainwater.They are saying if you harvest rainwater and then use it for laundry, baths, dishes and so on, and it then runs off into the sewer you will be charged because they have to process the contaminated water to make it potable again. I don't agree with the amount they charge but they are charging for processing not usage"

iainBB

galljga1 wrote: »

The first post after the vid sums it up:

"They didn't claim ownership of the rainwater.They are saying if you harvest rainwater and then use it for laundry, baths, dishes and so on, and it then runs off into the sewer you will be charged because they have to process the contaminated water to make it potable again. I don't agree with the amount they charge but they are charging for processing not usage"

I suppose that is fare to change for the processing of contamination that goes into their pipes but all water that lands in our streets drains into Irish water drain and would need to be processed regarding.

I am a customer of IW and also have a full water recovery system. I am just checking that I am not doing anything wrong by recovering "their" or nobodies water

JuliusCaesar

galljga1 wrote: »

iainBB wrote: »

godtabh wrote: »

That has nothing to do with ownership of rain water. It's to do with discharge of water a network with limited capacity

Here then

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_znyCZgoc&feature=youtu.be


That is why I am asking Irish water the question

there is a lot of rumours about it.

The first post after the vid sums it up:

"They didn't claim ownership of the rainwater.They are saying if you harvest rainwater and then use it for laundry, baths, dishes and so on, and it then runs off into the sewer you will be charged because they have to process the contaminated water to make it potable again. I don't agree with the amount they charge but they are charging for processing not usage"

That's hilarious.  Like they DON'T process the contaminated water anyway.  It's sewage, lads, don't tell me you just turn it around and send it back to the taps. 0_0

galljga1

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

galljga1 wrote: »

iainBB wrote: »

godtabh wrote: »

That has nothing to do with ownership of rain water. It's to do with discharge of water a network with limited capacity

Here then

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_znyCZgoc&feature=youtu.be


That is why I am asking Irish water the question

there is a lot of rumours about it.

The first post after the vid sums it up:
"They didn't claim ownership of the rainwater.They are saying if you harvest rainwater and then use it for laundry, baths, dishes and so on, and it then runs off into the sewer you will be charged because they have to process the contaminated water to make it potable again. I don't agree with the amount they charge but they are charging for processing not usage"

That's hilarious.  Like they DON'T process the contaminated water anyway.  It's sewage, lads, don't tell me you just turn it around and send it back to the taps. 0_0

Only in parts of Roscommon and Galway.

Irish Water: Allanah

Hi iainBB,

Thank you for contacting our page.

iainBB wrote: »

I have heard on the news and from many different sources that Irish water now clam ownership of rain and you need permission to collect it on my property.

Is this true.

Irish Water do not intend on charging for rainwater harvesting systems. However, where a mains connection is used to provide a back-up to a rain water harvesting system, customer charges will apply.

Metered customers will pay a combined charge per cubic metre (1,000 litres) for both water in and water out of 3.70 euro. Unmetered customers will pay a fixed annual charge of 160 euro for a 1 adult household and 260 euro for a household with 2 or more adults.

Planning permission for the construction of rainwater harvesting systems is not an Irish Water issue and should be sought from your local authority.

I hope you find this information helpful. If you have any further queries, please feel free to ask.

Kind regards,
Allanah

iainBB

Irish Water: Allanah wrote: »

Irish Water do not intend on charging for rainwater harvesting systems.
Kind regards,
Allanah

Thank you for getting back to I am currently not metered so I just pay the unmetered amount. We use very little mains water as we have a full water recovery system in place.

I understand that you are not currently charging for rain water But can you answer the question about ownership of rainwater.

Seth Brundle

iainBB wrote: »

I understand that you are not currently charging for rain water But can you answer the question about ownership of rainwater.

To my knowledge IW have never, ever claimed ownership of rainwater. 
This was made up guff presented as fact on sites such as Facebook! 

iainBB

kbannon wrote: »

To my knowledge IW have never, ever claimed ownership of rainwater. 
This was made up guff presented as fact on sites such as Facebook! 

I think so too. Kban but I thought I asked them to confirm this nonsense or fact.

Gaspode

Who owns the rain if Adele sets fire to it?
Do IW now own steam too?
What about the condensation on my windows?
Confused...

iainBB

TBH

They actually did not answered the question .the answer they gave is they are not currently charging for rain . Either it was a skilful PR answer or perhaps a simple misunderstanding.

Seth Brundle

iainBB wrote: »

TBH

They actually did not answered the question .the answer they gave is they are not currently charging for rain . Either it was a skilful PR answer or perhaps a simple misunderstanding.

Well to be frank, it was a daft question!

TheChizler

kbannon wrote: »

iainBB wrote: »

TBH

They actually did not answered the question .the answer they gave is they are not currently charging for rain . Either it was a skilful PR answer or perhaps a simple misunderstanding.

Well to be frank, it was a daft question!

Exactly, I imagine the reason there wasn't an answer along the lines of "don't be daft how can you own the rain?" was because it's so far-fetched it's never even been considered by someone with the authority to make that kind of statement.

Victor

iainBB wrote: »

I suppose that is fare to change for the processing of contamination that goes into their pipes but all water that lands in our streets drains into Irish water drain and would need to be processed regarding.

No, the vast majority of rainwater soaks into the ground and eventually enters ditches, streams, rivers and lakes - Irish Water have little involvement with these, it's mostly the local landowner, the Office of Public Works and/or the council.

Streetwalker

iainBB wrote: »

TBH

They actually did not answered the question .the answer they gave is they are not currently charging for rain . Either it was a skilful PR answer or perhaps a simple misunderstanding.

The mistake you make is expecting them to answer any of the tough questions correctly.

TheChizler

iainBB wrote: »

Streetwalker wrote: »

The mistake you make is expecting them to answer any of the tough questions correctly take any of the conspiracy theories seriously.