Buses and speedbumps

stehyl15

I honestly dont know how buses drive on roads with speedbumps they are pain in the arse literally for passengers and I would imagine drivers have an even harder job, if I were the head of db I would say to the cc that if they do not remove the speedbumps we will remove the bus. I hate these residents groups wanting the speedbumps put in but then complaining whenever buses get cut.

AlekSmart

stehyl15 wrote: »

I honestly dont know how buses drive on roads with speedbumps they are pain in the arse literally for passengers and I would imagine drivers have an even harder job, if I were the head of db I would say to the cc that if they do not remove the speedbumps we will remove the bus. I hate these residents groups wanting the speedbumps put in but then complaining whenever buses get cut.

Way back when these "Traffic Calming Measures" were being initially installed,this issue was raised at various local council meetings.

As a result of this it was agreed that "TCM's would not be installed on roads which carried bus routes UNLESS they were of "Bus Friendly" design,where the "humps" equate to the track of the bus chassis,allowing for an unimpeded crossing.

However Irish Local Government being what it is,few of them understood the concept,which resulted in the agreement either being totally ignored or the "Bus Friendly" versions being installed incorrectly allowing their usefulness to be compromised by indiscriminate car parking.

There are many other "Traffic Calming Measures" which could be utilized,some of which utilize the Bus itself as the "Calmer" by making the Bus-Stop a Set-Out design rather than a Step-Back,a simple measure which means that once the Bus is stopped then no traffic can overtake.

However,such concepts are best left to foreigners to benefit from...;)

Carawaystick

the 33(/x/a) suffers form this.

In Lusk, there are 2 ramps seperated by about 50 yards. These are on a tight bend, approaching a contraflow section of the Dublin street controlled by lights.

Then theres 2 more in Rush, even though there's a load more of the type Alek points out the busses axels fit over, and more in Loughshinny, and again in Skerries.

the groutch

the ramps on Broadford Road near Dundrum are particularly bad, the 14 & 75 buses are being torn apart try to traverse them.

LXFlyer

the groutch wrote: »

the ramps on Broadford Road near Dundrum are particularly bad, the 14 & 75 buses are being torn apart try to traverse them.

It also doesn't help that a small number of drivers on said routes don't slow down when going over those ramps, meaning anyone seated in the middle of the upper saloon of the bus goes airborne repeatedly!

stehyl15

the groutch wrote: »

the ramps on Broadford Road near Dundrum are particularly bad, the 14 & 75 buses are being torn apart try to traverse them.

Monkstown farm can be bad aswell theres one where the 63 actually has to make a complete stop before goin over it.

frankoreagan

Ones on Tower Road in Clondalkin are brutal. I don't see the need for them there at all. I understand why they have ramps in housing estates due to joyriding, but not on a narrow, slow moving main road like that.

thomasj

With all due respect......

I live near a 'main road' that gets quiet busy. It has seen Half a dozen, crashes in which most if not all of them resulted in fatalities and quiet a few of these dare I say would be down to speeding.

This road sees speeding cars on a near nightly basis and while quiet a few of them maybe boy racers. Some of them I wouldn't rule out the ordinary motorist that sees a clear run, wants to gain a few seconds.

You just have to listen to the number of crashes on a daily basis and the news that cameras have been put at the junction of luas benburb street to try and combat the number of collisions.

I know is painful to say this but a large number (not the majority) of Irish motorists in the city is a danger to themselves and others and there is a very good reason as to why these speedbumps and traffic cameras are on the roads in the first place.

Vic_08

thomasj wrote: »

With all due respect......

I live near a 'main road' that gets quiet busy. It has seen Half a dozen, crashes in which most if not all of them resulted in fatalities and quiet a few of these dare I say would be down to speeding.

This road sees speeding cars on a near nightly basis and while quiet a few of them maybe boy racers. Some of them I wouldn't rule out the ordinary motorist that sees a clear run, wants to gain a few seconds.

You just have to listen to the number of crashes on a daily basis and the news that cameras have been put at the junction of luas benburb street to try and combat the number of collisions.

I know is painful to say this but a large number (not the majority) of Irish motorists in the city is a danger to themselves and others and there is a very good reason as to why these speedbumps and traffic cameras are on the roads in the first place.

As has already been pointed out bus friendly speed humps can be used instead but mostly in Ireland the local authorities are too ignorant to bother.

BTW the standard ramps are also a great hindrance to ambulance and fire brigade crews when using these roads. The main road between where I am and the nearest casualty dept has a very long stretch with 20 or so severe speed bumps. I can't imagine a paramedic being able to safely carry out any procedure on a patient while traveling on this road.

stehyl15

I think that for buses mini roundabouts would be far more bus friendly

GTE

The ones coming out of Palmerston on the 18 are killer. I always thought someone with a bad back would have a case if ever hurt going over them. Some drivers rally over them, as much as a bus can rally.

Del2005

lxflyer wrote: »

It also doesn't help that a small number of drivers on said routes don't slow down when going over those ramps, meaning anyone seated in the middle of the upper saloon of the bus goes airborne repeatedly!

When I passed my D test in Finglas the tester mentioned that I hit a few bumps too fast and if there where passengers on they'd have had a bumpy ride. I'd been driving the road a good bit but my instructor usually sat on the jump seat beside the driver not the passenger seats above. The test was the 1st time anyone sat up that high when I was driving. If the driver doesn't usually drive the road they may not know that they are hitting the bumps too fast and won't unless a passenger mentions it when getting off.

thomasj wrote: »

With all due respect......

I live near a 'main road' that gets quiet busy. It has seen Half a dozen, crashes in which most if not all of them resulted in fatalities and quiet a few of these dare I say would be down to speeding.

This road sees speeding cars on a near nightly basis and while quiet a few of them maybe boy racers. Some of them I wouldn't rule out the ordinary motorist that sees a clear run, wants to gain a few seconds.

You just have to listen to the number of crashes on a daily basis and the news that cameras have been put at the junction of luas benburb street to try and combat the number of collisions.

I know is painful to say this but a large number (not the majority) of Irish motorists in the city is a danger to themselves and others and there is a very good reason as to why these speedbumps and traffic cameras are on the roads in the first place.

I've the other end of the scale. The speed bump outside my apartment has had 2 lampposts and a tree taken down by drivers hitting them too fast, luckily there where no pedestrians or kids playing when the 2 cars crashed. If there where no speed ramps then the lamp posts and tree would still be there. Speed bumps only slow down motorists who care, there are a lot that don't and the only way to stop then is with Gardaí along with plenty of other illegal driving taking place in estates and on our roads which cameras and speed bumps can't do anything about.