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Narcissim

  • 25-06-2015 2:23am
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    Hey folks.
    I have been learnign recently a lot about narcissim.
    Having grown up in a religious environment during my formative years and moved around the country quite a lot, i have a lot of experience with all sorts of types of personality.
    With regards to narcissists and advice given on videos and documentaries, that a person should run away from them, to put it simply.
    However i am more of a philosopher these days and also think that having difficult encounters can also build character and strength of spirit, if a person is equipped and strong.

    Here is an interesting video I am still just finishing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFZzRgXqqFg

    the man on the right screen is a self professed narcissist and the other I am guessing a co dependant type.
    Both with training in psychotherapy i would imagine fromthe conversation.

    What I would like to explore is not how to avoid them or how to disarm or deflect them.
    But rather how to help them to help themselves.
    In the video it is explained that this often comes about due to a lot of abuse in early life and the lack of emotional empathy is a defence mechanism in order to survive.
    For that reason i don't fully agree with the idea of abandoning a person because of their past suffering.
    I do feel the same about all types of antisocial behaviour too.
    I don't believe in locking people away and segregating. That seems weak and at the same time a method of increasing the issue.

    The reason I am asking this is also in relation to political theory.
    A really great point was made around the 45 minute mark about the nation of Israel being a narcissistic state. Because of all the abuse over their history, they have naturally become the aggressors. Never again syndrome.
    Better to hurt than to be hurt. Feeling no pain or remorse.
    How accurate that seems to me.
    A question then comes to my mind.
    How does one help a narcissist who is in denial heal?

    I would be considering the answer from a person to person perspective and also from a global political perspective.
    I am mostly concerned with the political side of things. But would like to hear most of the answers from an individual perspective and then overlay solutions to politics if possible.

    I mean, should the world just put the Israelis in a cell?
    Do we liberate their victims, only to let them find a new source?

    Keep in mind I posted this at around the 46 minute mark and haven't watched the rest of the video.

    Also does anyone think this method of reflecting the other persons thoughts back, as a form of showing you hear them, is a good method for narcissists to heal or get along better with people in order to cause less damage?

    sorry to keep editing. I should have just been patient and watched it all!
    I see now the narcissist is having trouble feeling the experiences of the other person. He is reflecting back, but often repeating the scenario in similar words. Very obviously unable to put it in his own words and feelings.
    This leads me to think that during child hood the neuron connections for this part of the brain have not been used and possibly lost.
    This would lead me to think that it would be quite hard to rebuild those structures, although the brain keeps a certain amount of plasticity well into old age.

    1:05 nacissist fears he is feeling emotions and begins to get defensive?
    Sitting forward and more erratic to push back any idea that emotion was at play.
    His face "feels" like he is feeling slight anger and/or fear.


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