Strange routing; LPL-ORK

FWVT

I'm just curious as to why FR9895 from Liverpool to Cork took such a detour this morning.

I know that many flights (including many from Scandinavia heading to say the Canaries) take such detours to take advantage of jet stream tailwinds when aligned N-S over us, but today's winds are W-NW at 40-70 knots (i.e. headwinds) at all cruising levels (e.g. Jeppesen's FL340 winds below).

Is it maybe down to cheaper ATC charges in the Irish FIR?

Growler!!!

That looks like a normal routing to BAGSO and then a direct to TISMO once in contact with Dub atc.

There are a good few danger areas around that part of Wales. Have a look at the EI-3729 it takes a similar route from Manchester.

EchoIndia

That's completely standard. The airspace in the area traversed by that flight is very busy and the airway routeing is almost always followed unless it is a very off-peak period.

Cessna_Pilot

Ditto the above, entirely standard routing.

goingnowhere

A large chunk of North Wales is off limits due military so this is both normal and as direct as possible

BonkeyDonker

Growler!!! wrote: »

That looks like a normal routing to BAGSO and then a direct to TISMO once in contact with Dub atc.

There are a good few danger areas around that part of Wales. Have a look at the EI-3729 it takes a similar route from Manchester.

goingnowhere wrote: »

A large chunk of North Wales is off limits due military so this is both normal and as direct as possible

you have to go around Wales as it is basically where the RAF go to play.

FWVT

Thanks for the replies. I checked for NOTAMs on those D areas but I didn't see any today. Maybe there were earlier this morning.

highlydebased

Even if those danger areas are inactive that routing is still fairly standard. It often surprises people that aircraft don't fly in a straight line between two airports