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cena

Yesterday the brother the received a letter from the solicitor. Can someone explain it a bit clearer to me.

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I rang the solicitor as she asked. She has asked me to find out the reg of the cars and what kind of stuff said people have that the sheriff can sell off.

Is this not the solicitors job or the county sheriffs jobs. Not the first time I have been asked to do this. going on six years no.

Losty Dublin

Question; has he any debts or judgements or court case which went against you in the past?

cena

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Question; has he any debts or judgements or court case which went against you in the past?

He (brother) won the case in the small claims court. brother was offered said amount. He never received anything. The people asked the solicitor if they could pay monthly. she refused to good that way as she thought they would stop paying over time.

Losty Dublin

The Sheriff has a ton of debts to chase up at any one time so they can't give you 24/7 time, especially if there isn't a lot on it. The more you assist them, the better the chances they have of identifying assets that they may be able to seize.

cena

Losty Dublin wrote: »

The Sheriff has a ton of debts to chase up at any one time so they can't give you 24/7 time, especially if there isn't a lot on it. The more you assist them, the better the chances they have of identifying assets that they may be able to seize.

I can't afford to by be caught looking at there houses cars etc. I would be opening myself for a court date.

I do know that they have a few pubs and restaurants

Fred Swanson

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cena

Fred Swanson wrote: »

The sheriff is a very slow and ineffective method to collect debts esp against private individuals.

Your solicitor should be advising you about other methods to get money from the debtors.

What other ways would there be?? Pm if you want

Pat Mustard

cena wrote: »

I rang the solicitor as she asked. She has asked me to find out the reg of the cars and what kind of stuff said people have that the sheriff can sell off.

That's what should be done. It is a good idea that car registrations and should be taken and a note of any personal assets.

cena wrote: »

Is this not the solicitors job or the county sheriffs jobs. Not the first time I have been asked to do this. going on six years no.

No, and it doesn't sound like it's your job either. If it's your brother's case, he should be doing the work.

Little CuChulainn

cena wrote: »

I can't afford to by be caught looking at there houses cars etc. I would be opening myself for a court date.

I do know that they have a few pubs and restaurants

A court date for what?

cena

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

A court date for what?

Any legal action that would or could be taken against me

cena

Pat Mustard wrote: »

That's what should be done. It is a good idea that car registrations and should be taken and a note of any personal assets.


No, and it doesn't sound like it's your job either. If it's your brother's case, he should be doing the work.

he's not living in the country at the moment

Losty Dublin

cena wrote: »

Any legal action that would or could be taken against me

Either you want to assist your brother in this matter to retrieve this debt or else you don't. If you happen to be able to get hold of a few addresses or car reg numbers or whatever and have been asked by legal types to get same then if it is going to help settle this then I'd suggest that you do it.

Why exactly would you have legal action taken against you for doing this is unclear; perhaps you can clarify same.

Fred Swanson

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Losty Dublin

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Would passing on a few addresses and car reg details constitute either? Surely not?

Fred Swanson

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cena

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Would passing on a few addresses and car reg details constitute either? Surely not?

I know of the bars and restaurants these guys have. Just not the cars. The solicitor wants my to go into these places and find out what kind of stuff can be sold off. I used to work for these lads. So its not that easy for me to just walk in and not be seen.

Fred Swanson

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cena

Fred Swanson wrote: »

That is the job of the sheriff to find that out.

That is my thought excatly. They have been into the places left a letter etc asking them them a call but they never did as the owners weren't their at the time. I'm not surprised.

cena

I was in of the theses lads places in business. Straight away I was see coming in having a look around and was asked the leave, as they knew what I was up to and why.

Not sure what else I can do/

Fred Swanson

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Pat Mustard

I think that it's worth finding as much information as possible and giving it to the sheriff; to include information about ownership of vehicles, hire purchase agreements etc.

It should be considered that if a car has been bought under a hire-purchase agreement, it is owned by the hire-purchase company rather than the debtor. This means that the sheriff will be unable to seize the vehicle because it is not an asset belonging to the debtor.

The people who work for the sheriff's office are state employees. They still get paid whether or not they enforce judgements. In my experience, a court messenger will call out to the house/premises, make a note of vehicles and registrations, maybe see what assets he can see in through the windows and beyond that, no further research is done. What I am saying is I think it's worth getting as much information about what kind of set-up the debtor has because otherwise, that research will not be carried out. Such information may be extremely useful or perhaps even essential for enforcement of judgement, ultimately.

For that reason, I think that it is worth it for creditors to carry out their own research and give the results of such research to the sheriff's office.

Fred Swanson

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cena

Pat Mustard wrote: »

I think that it's worth finding as much information as possible and giving it to the sheriff; to include information about ownership of vehicles, hire purchase agreements etc.

It should be considered that if a car has been bought under a hire-purchase agreement, it is owned by the hire-purchase company rather than the debtor. This means that the sheriff will be unable to seize the vehicle because it is not an asset belonging to the debtor.

The people who work for the sheriff's office are state employees. They still get paid whether or not they enforce judgements. In my experience, a court messenger will call out to the house/premises, make a note of vehicles and registrations, maybe see what assets he can see in through the windows and beyond that, no further research is done. What I am saying is I think it's worth getting as much information about what kind of set-up the debtor has because otherwise, that research will not be carried out. Such information may be extremely useful or perhaps even essential for enforcement of judgement, ultimately.

For that reason, I think that it is worth it for creditors to carry out their own research and give the results of such research to the sheriff's office.

I don't know where they live. I can't walk in and ask what time these people well be into work etc.. What about the restaurant. How am to get into the kitchen and see what kind of fridges etc. the that can be sold on. the restaurant has a Facebook page if that can used by the sheriff

Pat Mustard

cena wrote: »

I don't know where they live.

You could ask your solicitor to carry out a land registry search to see if she can find out their address. She could also search against the bar and restaurant premises that you mentioned. If the relevant people are company directors, you could see what you can dig up from www.cro.ie. The names and addresses of company directors can be got from there. You could look up the telephone book. Thoms Directory might be of some assistance, possibly.