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filling land.

  • 19-06-2015 8:49pm
    #1
    mcneil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 332 ✭✭


    Wanting to know what the process is for filling some dampish land I have attached to my site. Its 0.75 acre which has been lying useless ever since I built my house. I'm wanting to use it for some animals like goats, pigs, chickens etc.. And grow some food.


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  • #2
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Is it possible to drain it? You're query will probably get a better response in the small holding sub-forum


  • #3
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Any photos OP? Might be better to pull all the topsoil to one side (high side) first, then put the subsoil to another side. Try get filling in then, maybe someone nearby will be digging a slatted tank or something like that. Then put the subsoil back and topsoil on last, don't bury the topsoil.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #4
    mcneil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 332 ✭✭mcneil


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Any photos OP? Might be better to pull all the topsoil to one side (high side) first, then put the subsoil to another side. Try get filling in then, maybe someone nearby will be digging a slatted tank or something like that. Then put the subsoil back and topsoil on last, don't bury the topsoil.

    Sorry don't have any pics. Yes ill be pulling back the soil then putting back over when filled. As for someone digging out for slatted tank, I don't know many people in my area so would be difficult to find out who's moving stuff. Do you know anything about permits for this?


  • #5
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Coco do the permits. Any plant hire lads should know of tanks being done in the local area, you'll pay the haulage so keep it local. Another possible source is drainage/road building.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #6
    mcneil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 332 ✭✭mcneil


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Coco do the permits. Any plant hire lads should know of tanks being done in the local area, you'll pay the haulage so keep it local. Another possible source is drainage/road building.

    What's the price for permits and are they straight forward or can they be difficult to get from coco.

    When you say paying haulage, is it expensive?


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  • #7
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    mcneil wrote: »
    What's the price for permits and are they straight forward or can they be difficult to get from coco.

    When you say paying haulage, is it expensive?

    Sorry don't know anything about the permits.
    Rough ballpark for a tractor and dumper is about 30-40 yoyo an hour. Try work out how many cubic metres you need.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #8
    mcneil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 332 ✭✭mcneil


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Sorry don't know anything about the permits.
    Rough ballpark for a tractor and dumper is about 30-40 yoyo an hour. Try work out how many cubic metres you need.

    Hard to tell how many cubic meters because some parts might be softer than others and will need more fill. At a guess thou, I'd say 50x50 meters and as for how deep, I wouldn't know. For some perspective,I can walk on it now with boots on but in winter and when its been raining back in spring summer, it can be really wet. The field is now full of rushes and not getting used at all :(

    As for the 30-40 an hour, think I'll just but a wheelbarrow lol. Hopefully I can find someone moving stuff for free because filling it at them prices, could run into 1000s. I've 2.5k, I know this isn't much but if I find someone looking to dump stuff, it should stretch to fill it depending on what the price of a permit is.


  • #9
    jimini0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭jimini0


    mcneil wrote: »
    Hard to tell how many cubic meters because some parts might be softer than others and will need more fill. At a guess thou, I'd say 50x50 meters and as for how deep, I wouldn't know. For some perspective,I can walk on it now with boots on but in winter and when its been raining back in spring summer, it can be really wet. The field is now full of rushes and not getting used at all :(

    As for the 30-40 an hour, think I'll just but a wheelbarrow lol. Hopefully I can find someone moving stuff for free because filling it at them prices, could run into 1000s. I've 2.5k, I know this isn't much but if I find someone looking to dump stuff, it should stretch to fill it depending on what the price of a permit is.
    Be careful when you tell lads to dump stuff. I made the mistake of telling lads to dump stuff in a site I was filling up. They started with stone and mud, I was happy with that so let them at it. Came back a week later and there was loads of old slates, timber and plastic. And of course nobody would own up to dumping it.


  • #10
    mcneil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 332 ✭✭mcneil


    jimini0 wrote: »
    Be careful when you tell lads to dump stuff. I made the mistake of telling lads to dump stuff in a site I was filling up. They started with stone and mud, I was happy with that so let them at it. Came back a week later and there was loads of old slates, timber and plastic. And of course nobody would own up to dumping it.



    Non will get paid if they dump that on my site, that's if I don't get it for free.


  • #11
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    jimini0 wrote: »
    Be careful when you tell lads to dump stuff. I made the mistake of telling lads to dump stuff in a site I was filling up. They started with stone and mud, I was happy with that so let them at it. Came back a week later and there was loads of old slates, timber and plastic. And of course nobody would own up to dumping it.

    If you aren't watching them they'll try anything.
    The permits can be tricky, depending on how much you're planning on drawing in, they can ask for environment impact statements and all that crac


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  • #12
    jimini0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭jimini0


    mcneil wrote: »
    Non will get paid if they dump that on my site, that's if I don't get it for free.

    There was no payment or permits. They were looking for somewhere to dump stuff from a around a house the were putting a retaining wall at the back. But said nothing about a shed they were knocking on another job


  • #13
    mcneil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 332 ✭✭mcneil


    ganmo wrote: »
    If you aren't watching them they'll try anything.
    The permits can be tricky, depending on how much you're planning on drawing in, they can ask for environment impact statements and all that crac

    tricky ?


  • #14
    mcneil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 332 ✭✭mcneil


    jimini0 wrote: »
    There was no payment or permits. They were looking for somewhere to dump stuff from a around a house the were putting a retaining wall at the back. But said nothing about a shed they were knocking on another job

    If i wasnt looking to grow food on the land i wouldnt care if it was old block/cement etc.. but its a defo no-no now.


  • #15
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    mcneil wrote: »
    tricky ?

    parents tried to get a pit filled years ago, coco wanted planning permission environmental impact report road traffic report, by the time they got all that sorted the building had stopped so nothing to draw into it

    but that was dlrcoco so prob not as tricky anywhere else


  • #16
    mcneil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 332 ✭✭mcneil


    ganmo wrote: »
    parents tried to get a pit filled years ago, coco wanted planning permission environmental impact report road traffic report, by the time they got all that sorted the building had stopped so nothing to draw into it

    but that was dlrcoco so prob not as tricky anywhere else

    If they looking me to do all that, i think ill have to give it a miss.........legally lol


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