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Liquor licence query

  • 14-06-2015 1:13pm
    #1
    pa990
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    Hi

    If a hotel and golf resort has a one liquor licence for the entire grounds, and there is a bar in the hotel and in the nearby but detached golf club house (all covered by the one licence).

    Would two licence exemptions (extensions) be required if there are two different functions happening on the same date, or would one exemption/extension cover both.

    Ie. Two wedding receptions happening at the resort on the same night, in different buildings, but operating under one liquor licence.

    Thanks


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  • #2
    Losty Dublin
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    What sort of licence do you mean when you to the venue as having one licence? A hotel licence is a completely different licence to a bar licence or a restaurant licence or a club licence or other type of licences that may be in effect here. All don't do quite the same thing.

    For the record, it is something of a tradition that a venue only hosts one wedding per night so it's unusual for anywhere to take in two. Perhaps you should clarify some of this with the resorts management as they should know best.


  • #3
    coylemj
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    pa990 wrote: »
    If a hotel and golf resort has a one liquor licence for the entire grounds, and there is a bar in the hotel and in the nearby but detached golf club house (all covered by the one licence).

    Do you know for a fact that there is only one licence?

    It's possible that the hotel is able to sell liquor because it's a registered hotel and the golf resort has a separate publican's licence. If people can call to the golf place, play a round of golf and then have a few beers in the clubhouse/bar, the place would need a regular publican's licence. Regular golf clubs which are owned by the members are registered clubs and don't need an ordinary pub licence but a commercial golf resort does.


  • #4
    pa990
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    coylemj wrote: »
    Do you know for a fact that there is only one licence?

    It's possible that the hotel is able to sell liquor because it's a registered hotel and the golf resort has a separate publican's licence. If people can call to the golf place, play a round of golf and then have a few beers in the clubhouse/bar, the place would need a regular publican's licence. Regular golf clubs which are owned by the members are registered clubs and don't need an ordinary pub licence but a commercial golf resort does.

    The hotel and club house operate under one licence "Publican's Licence (Ordinary) Hotel - BF - 1902 Act (Public Bar)" I have confirmed this with revenue and the court services.

    The club house does not operate under a club licence, the entire grounds are covered by the one licence.


  • #5
    Uno my Uno.
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    pa990 wrote: »
    The hotel and club house operate under one licence "Publican's Licence (Ordinary) Hotel - BF - 1902 Act (Public Bar)" I have confirmed this with revenue and the court services.

    The club house does not operate under a club licence, the entire grounds are covered by the one licence.

    That is quite unusual and not something I've come across before. Licences are very specific, they must be of the correct type and usually only relate to a specified premises. Its possible that there is a form of licence that could cover both these bars but I'm not familiar with such a licence.


  • #6
    pa990
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    Uno my Uno. wrote: »
    That is quite unusual and not something I've come across before. Licences are very specific, they must be of the correct type and usually only relate to a specified premises. Its possible that there is a form of licence that could cover both these bars but I'm not familiar with such a licence.

    It is unusual, and was the first of its kind when it was initially licenced.
    I have had the maps checked with the court house, and he licence does in fact cover the second building, even though it is detached from the main building.



    So what i'm asking is, does a liquor licence exemption cover the enitre area that the licence is for.

    another example would be:

    A hotel with a nightclub, If the Night club (within the hotel) applies for an exemption /extension, would that same exemption apply to the hotel bar as well.
    assuming that the premises has one licence that covers both hotel and night club ?
    (i ask this as i have been informed that in such a case it would apply)


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  • #7
    Peregrinus
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    Because the licence is so unusual, it's hard to say what would be "standard" for exemptions or extensions to such a licence. It's possible that the exemption order states that it applies only to, e.g. the main bar, or the clubhouse bar, so as to prevent exemptions routinely applying to the premises where no function is taking place. So even though they only have one licence, they might well need separate exemptions if they have separate functions in separate areas.


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