Engine oil question

gooner99

Hi.I have an 11 year old mk5 vw golf 1.4 75hp (standard non tsi/fsi engine) with 170k miles on it. I've always used castrol edge 5w30 every 10k miles and its served the engine very well.only servicing and timimg belts needed.it can burn a bit of oil between services, but I keep an eye on it.what is the best advice with the higher miles.continue as is or change the oil type?

tossy

gooner99 wrote: »

Hi.I have an 11 year old mk5 vw golf 1.4 75hp (standard non tsi/fsi engine) with 170k miles on it. I've always used castrol edge 5w30 every 10k miles and its served the engine very well.only servicing and timimg belts needed.it can burn a bit of oil between services, but I keep an eye on it.what is the best advice with the higher miles.continue as is or change the oil type?

Increase the frequency of the oil changes would probably be the way forward.

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

Some people change to 5w40 and claim reduced oil usage. Not sure if this really works but might be worth a try.

Continue as you are doing imo.

spiggotpaddy

I would keep going as you were, I service my brothers1.4 Octavia with Lidl's finest, 200,000 miles and sailed through its test this week.

George Dalton

How many litres does it use between services?

gooner99

George Dalton wrote: »

How many litres does it use between services?

bout 1 litre

gooner99

Its going well,just passed the nct again. I know castrol edge is getting pricey.Its served it well so far,just wondering if its worth continuing.

jimgoose

Steady as she goes.

gooner99

spiggotpaddy wrote: »

I would keep going as you were, I service my brothers1.4 Octavia with Lidl's finest, 200,000 miles and sailed through its test this week.

is that fully synt 5w30?

how often do you change it?

_Brian

Change nothing.

316

How much is castrol edge now?

antodeco

gooner99 wrote: »

bout 1 litre

For every 10k miles? That's excellent!

Mine uses about 5 litres for 10k kms!

gooner99

316 wrote: »

How much is castrol edge now?

I bought it the last few times from amazon for a good price.but now they wont ship to Ireland and with the exchange rate its gone up quite a bit on the likes of halfords and micksgarage.Best I can get now is 145 for 20L delivered from Germany.

gooner99

antodeco wrote: »

For every 10k miles? That's excellent!

Mine uses about 5 litres for 10k kms!

Yes thats about it.Might be 2 litres sometimes.Depends on the driving it gets.Mostly shortish runs.

gooner99

spiggotpaddy wrote: »

I would keep going as you were, I service my brothers1.4 Octavia with Lidl's finest, 200,000 miles and sailed through its test this week.

Your brother must be sailing close to record breaking territory for that engine. What year is your brothers.

spiggotpaddy

gooner99 wrote: »

Your brother must be sailing close to record breaking territory for that engine. What year is your brothers.

2002

gooner99

spiggotpaddy wrote: »

2002

Good going. I had a 98 mk4 with the same/similar engine,but only put 60k up on it from new before changing to the mk5. Have it from new,so know that it's been well looked after.Goes to show regular servicing is the life of a car,even ones that have engines with known weaknesses.

walus

gooner99 wrote: »

I bought it the last few times from amazon for a good price.but now they wont ship to Ireland and with the exchange rate its gone up quite a bit on the likes of halfords and micksgarage.Best I can get now is 145 for 20L delivered from Germany.

I used to get oil on Amazon too until they have changed their shipping policy for Ireland. You can try using this crowd: https://www.brakeandclutch.ie/. I got 20 litres of Valvoline 5w30 for 100 euros delivered just last month. They also have Castrol. It is good to see an Irish business with such wide selection of engine oils at very competitive price.

Special Circumstances

walus wrote: »

I used to get oil on Amazon too until they have changed their shipping policy for Ireland. You can try using this crowd: https://www.brakeandclutch.ie/. I got 20 litres of Valvoline 5w30 for 100 euros delivered just last month. They also have Castrol. It is good to see an Irish business with such wide selection of engine oils at very competitive price.

Their bricks and mortar shop has a good reputation for price around limerick from what I've heard.

gooner99

walus wrote: »

I used to get oil on Amazon too until they have changed their shipping policy for Ireland. You can try using this crowd: https://www.brakeandclutch.ie/. I got 20 litres of Valvoline 5w30 for 100 euros delivered just last month. They also have Castrol. It is good to see an Irish business with such wide selection of engine oils at very competitive price.

Thanks for that,their prices are pretty good. 4 litres of edge for €47.72 pus 1 litre free.That is the best price I've seen.

gooner99

For 20 litres, this is the best I've found. They deliver to Ireland for €25.

http://www.motoroel100.de/Castrol-EDGE-FST-5W-30-20Liter

gooner99

walus wrote: »

I used to get oil on Amazon too until they have changed their shipping policy for Ireland. You can try using this crowd: https://www.brakeandclutch.ie/. I got 20 litres of Valvoline 5w30 for 100 euros delivered just last month. They also have Castrol. It is good to see an Irish business with such wide selection of engine oils at very competitive price.

I don't see the valvoline 20 litres on their site just now. Is it a good oil (VW approved)?

walus

I'm very picky about an oil that I use in my cars and in fairness their were very good in sourcing one for me that they did not have on their web at the time (Valvo FE 5w30). Getting 4x5L cans also gave me a nice discount and at 100 euros delivered I can not see how even Amazon could beat that. I'm not associated with them but with this level of service and attractive pricing I want them to get more business so they can see themselves their doing something good. Something that in my opinion Irish market has lacked for a long time.

XsApollo

Corrib oil or shannonside oil on the dock road in Limerick.
They are in Ennis too so i presume there are other premises around the country.
You can Shell Helix ultra 20litres for just under 130euros.
Also have cheaper oil for 100euro and 80euros I never asked the brand names for them tho.

walus

gooner99 wrote: »

I don't see the valvoline 20 litres on their site just now. Is it a good oil (VW approved)?

I'd say this is the oil that matches Castrol specs:
https://www.brakeandclutch.ie/valvoline-synpower-xtreme-xl-iii-c3-sae-5w-30-5-ltr-pack.php

If you email them they will probably do a deal on 4x5L bundle.

gooner99

walus wrote: »

I'd say this is the oil that matches Castrol specs:
https://www.brakeandclutch.ie/valvoline-synpower-xtreme-xl-iii-c3-sae-5w-30-5-ltr-pack.php

If you email them they will probably do a deal on 4x5L bundle.

Yes seems to be the spec alright. Valvoline a good oil?

walus

gooner99 wrote: »

Yes seems to be the spec alright. Valvoline a good oil?

At least as good as Castrol. In my personal opinion - better.

gooner99

George Dalton wrote: »

How many litres does it use between services?

George. Do you mind me asking what you guys use/ recommend for this engine or even any idea what vw workshops use. The castrol was always in my budget but went up in price.then was able to get it from amazon resonably.now its not so reasonable. Also it seemed to be the one that was most highly rated,maybe i got caught by marketing spiel.I'd like to put in good oil that will keep the car going for another few years if possible.just dont want to be paying for a brand name if there is another more resonable oil thats just as good or maybe even better.

TheBody

What part of the world are you in? This crowd sell 5L drums of Castrol Magnetec for €29

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Supersavers-Discount-Stores/115072575207828

George Dalton

gooner99 wrote: »

George. Do you mind me asking what you guys use/ recommend for this engine or even any idea what vw workshops use.

VW dealers use Castrol.

We use Fuchs oils, specifically GT1 5w30 XTL which is the Fuchs equivalent of Castrol Edge FST.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-980-fuchs-titan-gt1-pro-c-3-xtl-5w-30-fully-synthetic-engine-oil-for-the-latest-vw-bmw-and-mercedes-vehicles.aspx

corcaigh1

George Dalton wrote: »

VW dealers use Castrol.

We use Fuchs oils, specifically GT1 5w30 XTL which is the Fuchs equivalent of Castrol Edge FST.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-980-fuchs-titan-gt1-pro-c-3-xtl-5w-30-fully-synthetic-engine-oil-for-the-latest-vw-bmw-and-mercedes-vehicles.aspx

Is fuchs diesel oil as good as castrol edge turbo diesel?

George Dalton

In my opinion Fuchs and Castrol are on a par quality wise. Both are first fill suppliers to the German motor industry so pretty much any new German car that rolls off the production line has either Castrol or Fuchs oil in the engine. That's good enough for me...

walus

My personal opinion on Castrol is that it is seriously overpriced for what it is. On top of that the quality depends on where you get it from i.e. German Castrol is a different grade lubricant to what you get say in Romania (Castrol use local blending facilities). Also likelihood of coming across a fake Castrol is the highest of all oils available in Europe. Genuine Castrol Edge is a decent product but there are better oils available for less - simple as.

tmg

any thoughts on liqui moly ?

walus

tmg wrote: »

any thoughts on liqui moly ?

They make very good oils too. And are very honest about the type of the base stock. They clearly state if its Full Synthetic or if it Synthetic Technology (so called HC - hydrocrack). For the likes of Castrol even a s...ty Magnatec is full synthetic. I've used them before but sadly not easily available in Ireland.

CJhaughey

walus wrote: »

They make very good oils too. And are very honest about the type of the base stock. They clearly state if its Full Synthetic or if it Synthetic Technology (so called HC - hydrocrack). For the likes of Castrol even a s...ty Magnatec is full synthetic. I've used them before but sadly not easily available in Ireland.

The designation of HC Synthetic and PAO/Ester Synthetic is unique to Germany as the oil companies had a fight over what was and was not considered synthetic.
In Germany Castrol sued BP over calling Hydro cracked (HC) mineral oil "Synthetic" and won.
In the US some judge ruled that Group 3 oils HC could be called synthetic.
So most of the world will buy HC oil labelled as Synthetic and never know the difference.

walus

CJhaughey wrote: »

The designation of HC Synthetic and PAO/Ester Synthetic is unique to Germany as the oil companies had a fight over what was and was not considered synthetic.
In Germany Castrol sued BP over calling Hydro cracked (HC) mineral oil "Synthetic" and won.
In the US some judge ruled that Group 3 oils HC could be called synthetic.
So most of the world will buy HC oil labelled as Synthetic and never know the difference.

That is correct. It was the case maybe 15 years ago. LM however keep this policy across the board irrespectively the country they sell to. To put it simply in their book HC is HC Synthetic Technology, PAO/Ester is Full Synthetic.