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Istick Help!!

  • 08-06-2015 5:54pm
    #1
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Hi all.
    Just bought a 50w Istick and need a small bit of help.

    Been using just the cheapo batteries and decided that I just want more power so to speak..longer lasting rather than mods etc so the istick came up and I bought it.

    Anyhow couple of questions.
    1.Will ordinary clearos work with the istick?If so what volts should I give it?
    On the coils Im using it says 4.2-5.00 volts--Theyre bdc coils that I just buy to replace in a clearo.Some of the coils are 1.8 ohm and some are 2.2--whats the best voltage for either/or?

    2.Recommend me a new tank.Preferably one that I can just buy coils for as Im not pushed about rebuilding "yet" but I am going to start.

    Think that's it..But any help appreciated.
    Thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭JH_raheny


    When you say bdc coils I'm guessing you use a Nautilus, start at 10-11w
    I newer went higher than 13-14 on the nautilus without getting a burnt taste


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭tommy2bad


    1Yes, around 3.3 same as ego batteries are supposed to put out. Though I find the top coils can get dry hits if you go high, bottom coiled clearly like the program can be run up to 3.7v.
    The best thing to do is try a few different voltages savages until you find what suits. I find I go up and down as the mod takes me.
    2. Nautilus mini, good vapor and easy use. I heard of them leaking but never had it happen, well no more than any other tank. They are glass so break on impact with roads, yards,bathroom tiles etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    I have the Istick with a Nautilus Mini stainless steel.
    The stainless is a lot more robust than the glass tank. It still has a glass inner but the stainless protects it a lot better.
    I did change the stainless tip for a plastic as I didn't like the feel of the stainless tip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭tommy2bad


    JH_raheny wrote: »
    When you say bdc coils I'm guessing you use a Nautilus, start at 10-11w
    I newer went higher than 13-14 on the nautilus without getting a burnt taste

    Theirs an aspire et clearo that takes bdc coils, not compatible with nautilus coils. 5Watts is a good start with them, above 8 they hit dry if you chain vape. Otherwise good little clearo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭nuttyboy79


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    2.Recommend me a new tank.Preferably one that I can just buy coils for as Im not pushed about rebuilding "yet" but I am going to start.

    Thanks

    Any of the Kanger Subtanks. They match up well with the iStick 50w, you can buy stock coils 1.2 ohms and 0.5 ohms which you get one of each in the box, it also comes with an RBA base which you can rebuild when you get to that point.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    JH_raheny wrote: »
    When you say bdc coils I'm guessing you use a Nautilus, start at 10-11w
    I newer went higher than 13-14 on the nautilus without getting a burnt taste

    At the minute Im just using ordinary ce4`s with replaceable coils (I think)
    They work for me as Im not a huge vaper at the minute--using less than 15 ml a week.
    tommy2bad wrote: »
    1Yes, around 3.3 same as ego batteries are supposed to put out. Though I find the top coils can get dry hits if you go high, bottom coiled clearly like the program can be run up to 3.7v.
    The best thing to do is try a few different voltages savages until you find what suits. I find I go up and down as the mod takes me.
    2. Nautilus mini, good vapor and easy use. I heard of them leaking but never had it happen, well no more than any other tank. They are glass so break on impact with roads, yards,bathroom tiles etc.

    Thanks for that--I tried a ce4 at 4.0 and it seems to work quite well.Looked at the nautilus but Im also looking at this one
    http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/gsair16.htm

    nuttyboy79 wrote: »
    Any of the Kanger Subtanks. They match up well with the iStick 50w, you can buy stock coils 1.2 ohms and 0.5 ohms which you get one of each in the box, it also comes with an RBA base which you can rebuild when you get to that point.

    This whole rebuilding thing has me interested.But Ive been reading about horror stories with them if done wrong.Not that Im afraid of wrapping coils etc as I build tattoo machines in my spare time.I understand the concept of them--just don't want to damage anything or anyone.
    The 1.8 - 2.2 ohm range seems to suit me grand.

    Just one thing with the Istick I notice even just using clearomisers that the hit is a lot stronger.Im using 12mg now and Ive read that you could probably go to 6 or even 3mg with a good setup--how true is that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭youdipstick


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    At the minute Im just using ordinary ce4`s with replaceable coils (I think)
    They work for me as Im not a huge vaper at the minute--using less than 15 ml a week.



    Thanks for that--I tried a ce4 at 4.0 and it seems to work quite well.Looked at the nautilus but Im also looking at this one
    http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/gsair16.htm




    This whole rebuilding thing has me interested.But Ive been reading about horror stories with them if done wrong.Not that Im afraid of wrapping coils etc as I build tattoo machines in my spare time.I understand the concept of them--just don't want to damage anything or anyone.
    The 1.8 - 2.2 ohm range seems to suit me grand.

    Just one thing with the Istick I notice even just using clearomisers that the hit is a lot stronger.Im using 12mg now and Ive read that you could probably go to 6 or even 3mg with a good setup--how true is that?

    The other set-up you had probably didn't give you a stable output of power & it would diminish the power the more you vaped.
    Istick will give you a more accurate power output from fully charged to dead flat.
    Regarding the mg of nic,everyone is completely different,the way I vape for instance,if I'm using coils between 1.0ohm & 2.1ohm,I could never vape 3,6 or 12mg,it would not satisfy me at all,I would use 18mg to 36mg & vaping at 12w.
    But,if I'm using .2,.3 or .5ohm coils (sub ohm) I couldn't use that much mg nic I stated above,I am quite happy using 3mg or 6mg but vaping between 30w & 60w.
    higher ohms mean less wattage & more nic,lower ohms mean more wattage & less nic.
    Hope this helps.
    This is my vaping,others will be slightly different but approx the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Hellrazer, what you're using is a ce5 (ce4s don't have a replacement coil system).

    I have one as a back up for my nautilus and the highest you can really go with those is about 7w before you get a rotten burning taste and wreck the coil.

    If you intend to get into rebuilding, get yourself a Kanger Subtank and some spare coils.

    Nice upgrade, btw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭tommy2bad


    Dear God auto correct on a tablet can make it look like you are posting while drunk,
    clearo, pro tank, wattage, insert as appropriate. Apologies if it confused anyone.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Picked up the Gs air today.Im confused as to what voltage/watts to run it at.
    Coils are dual coils at 1.5 ohm.Its not really doing it for me at the minute despite f**king with it for an hour.

    Firstly theres too much air and the adjustments to get it right are tiny turns of the screw but I think I have that right now the way I like it.I hate really airy pulls on it..feels like Im pulling on an empty tube.

    But now that Ive gotten that right was just wondering about watts or volts.What do other users set it at to give me a bit of a guideline.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭RIchieNouveau


    Hellrazer, start at 14w and work your way up. If you have issues with the air again just close it fully and then work your way out to open until you find what you like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Didihno


    Well, as Richie said, but I'd even start at the bottom, 6w (I think) on the iStick, and work your way up in 1w increments.
    You will eventually find a point where it satisfies you.
    On an atomiser with that resistance (I have my Kayfuns at around 1.4-5ohms) I generally settle for around 12-15w (which usually translates to 4v ish).
    The important thing is start low and go up, you will know when you hit the limit, because you'll get to a point where you think, eh, I don't like that taste, I'll drop back down a bit and see if thats better. Its the Goldilocks zone and its different for everyone.
    Its also different for a lot of liquids too, so you find your Goldilocks for the liquid you have on the coil (the thing inside the atomiser that heats up) you have on the battery you have.
    Once you find the zone you can pretty much leave it there until you change one of the three, then off you go again!
    Its sounds a lot, but trust us, its like making a cup of tea after a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭RIchieNouveau


    Didihno wrote: »
    Well, as Richie said, but I'd even start at the bottom, 6w (I think) on the iStick, and work your way up in 1w increments.
    You will eventually find a point where it satisfies you.
    On an atomiser with that resistance (I have my Kayfuns at around 1.4-5ohms) I generally settle for around 12-15w (which usually translates to 4v ish)..

    To be honest, this is more sensible advice and is what I'd usually recommend for most tanks, but there's something about the GS Air that means it needs and can handle more power. Maybe 14w was a bit high to start at but I think anything under 10w will be almost like bit vaping at all. That said, you're only looking at an extra minute of adjusting if you start at minimum so might as well.

    Don't be shy though! They can handle up to 18w without burning, meant to be 20w but I got burnt hits at 20w.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Thanks you lot.All up and running now.The difference with good equipment is just amazing.
    Only issue I have now is to find a nicer liquid.Been using the carrlos from healthier choice and its grand in the cheaper carts.But Ive noticed the difference and it tastes crap in the new setup.

    So I got a Liqua American Blend and feck me its the nicest liquid Ive tried so far..so much so Ive run out :)

    Anywhere open on a Sunday to buy liquids?Or is there any VIP or Healthier choice(Ive one of each shop near me opn until 6.00 tonight) liquid (tobacco) that anyone would recommend until I get a delivery on Tuesday..just to keep me going for a day or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Didihno


    Thats great to hear mate, well done.
    Get yourself into the City Centre and try out one or two of the proper vape stores, they have loads of flavours to sample and you're sure to find something you like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    Hi guys, I am having some issues with a 30w I stick. In the last couple of weeks or so it has started burning through coils within a day.. I have changed juice recently , but surely that couldn't cause that much of a change? (I used to get at least 4/5 days)

    Any ideas?

    I stick about 6 months old (using 5.1V) and using aspire ET-S glassomizer, have tried 1.6 to 2.1 ohm coils, which have made no difference to the issue

    Thanks guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭JH_raheny


    some juices do gunk up coils but just a day sounds a bit weird, maybe the iStick has gone wonky and a firing at higher power than display is showing and burning the coils


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Didihno


    5.1volts is the issue here, far far too much power for a coil above 1.2 ohms.
    Reduce that to 4v max and you'll see (hopefully if its not an actual hardware issue as above) much improvement in lifespan of the coils.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinCool


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    So I got a Liqua American Blend and feck me its the nicest liquid Ive tried so far..so much so Ive run out :)

    Try Liqua's French Pipe if the place you got it stocks it. I love the stuff. Been vaping it exclusively now for a good number of months. Cheap too, least I get it for £6 for 30 mls (living in the UK these days). The liqua virginia leaf is quite nice too, a bit more earthy than the american or french pipe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭youdipstick


    TinCool wrote: »
    Try Liqua's French Pipe if the place you got it stocks it. I love the stuff. Been vaping it exclusively now for a good number of months. Cheap too, least I get it for £6 for 30 mls (living in the UK these days). The liqua virginia leaf is quite nice too, a bit more earthy than the american or french pipe.

    I've been vaping French Pipe for the last 3 years & I must order some from Bestshop this Weekend,I might get 10ml of Virginia Leaf & American Blend,I can't imagine that they are better than FP,I'll never know unless I try it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinCool


    I've been vaping French Pipe for the last 3 years & I must order some from Bestshop this Weekend,I might get 10ml of Virginia Leaf & American Blend,I can't imagine that they are better than FP,I'll never know unless I try it.

    To be honest, in comparison to FP, they're not, but still nice for a change. Get a couple of 10mls to solidify the fact that nothing will top the FP :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭RIchieNouveau


    http://www.topecigarette.ie/search?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=Liqua+&submit_search=

    That's the cheapest Liqua I managed to find in Ireland before I started DIYing. 3 euro for 10ml. I just looked on the Best Shop and noticed the bulk buy options, does anyone know if this has to be the same flavour or can you mix and match within a brand? Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭youdipstick


    TinCool wrote: »
    To be honest, in comparison to FP, they're not, but still nice for a change. Get a couple of 10mls to solidify the fact that nothing will top the FP :D

    I did hear that Liqua virginia leaf is the closest thing to rollies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭youdipstick


    http://www.topecigarette.ie/search?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=Liqua+&submit_search=

    That's the cheapest Liqua I managed to find in Ireland before I started DIYing. 3 euro for 10ml. I just looked on the Best Shop and noticed the bulk buy options, does anyone know if this has to be the same flavour or can you mix and match within a brand? Thanks.

    Never tried mixing that brand,in Bestshop,I buy FP in 30ml bottles,normally in bulk of 5's,€8 each.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinCool


    I did hear that Liqua virginia leaf is the closest thing to rollies.

    To be honest any of the tobaccos from oksmokey.co.uk is the closest I've ever tasted to actual tobacco. Got through many bottles of that over the years but the lowest mg they do is 11 and I'm on 3/6mg these days. Liquas Virginia leaf is nice but it is very earthy in taste.

    But aside from all that I just love FP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭youdipstick


    TinCool wrote: »
    To be honest any of the tobaccos from oksmokey.co.uk is the closest I've ever tasted to actual tobacco. Got through many bottles of that over the years but the lowest mg they do is 11 and I'm on 3/6mg these days. Liquas Virginia leaf is nice but it is very earthy in taste.

    But aside from all that I just love FP.

    I still look on Fasttech for FP,it's nearly a year ago since they stocked it,I do look on the site now & again,I used to buy 20 x 30ml bottles at a time,about €4.50 a bottle.

    I just had a look,no FP but there are other Liqua flavours...

    https://www.fasttech.com/category/1412/e-liquids-e-solids/


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Think Im going to try some French Pipe..seems to be popular.While I like the Liqua American Blend I feel like I need a more "smoky" taste.The American Blend is quite light.I was a silk cut smoker and its very close to that kind of smoothness if you get me.

    Whats ryc9 or ryc10 like?Wouldnt mind trying a funky tasting liquid but all the ones Ive tried aren't my type of thing.
    Tried cola,some cherry one.Cappuchino etc but they all tasted nothing like what they were supposed to taste like.
    Im going to drop into Palmerstown today and try a few types.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Need a bit more help if anyone can.

    My setup as you know is a 50w istick with a gs air.

    Just change the head yesterday for a new one but I'm now getting liquid in my mouth.And burning hot liquid at that.not nice on the tongue.

    Anyone any idea why this is happening now??
    It was great with the previous coil.

    My heads wrecked and I had to go back to a ce5 but the flavour just isn't there with these.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭EGriff


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Need a bit more help if anyone can.

    My setup as you know is a 50w istick with a gs air.

    Just change the head yesterday for a new one but I'm now getting liquid in my mouth.And burning hot liquid at that.not nice on the tongue.

    Anyone any idea why this is happening now??
    It was great with the previous coil.

    My heads wrecked and I had to go back to a ce5 but the flavour just isn't there with these.

    Thanks.

    Try turning it upside down and firing it for a second, then give it another vape, might just be flooded.

    Could just be a dodgy coil though.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    EGriff wrote: »
    Try turning it upside down and firing it for a second, then give it another vape, might just be flooded.

    Could just be a dodgy coil though.
    Thanks for that.found the problem.the new coil was missing a seal off the top of it.Leaking fluid into the centre tube.Changed it for a new coil and all grand.


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