Jerry Seinfeld refuses to play colleges because of how Politically Correct they are

jonnypacket

Jerry Seinfeld doesn’t play colleges and has no plans to do so in the near future because of how politically correct kids are these days.

Seinfeld talked with ESPN’s Colin Cowherd on Thursday, and the radio host asked him about how PC the culture has become these days, citing comments from other comics about how colleges are way too sensitive.

Seinfeld agreed, saying that he has been warned to avoid college campuses because of how PC they are.

As an example, he brought up how his wife told their daughter, “In the next couple of years, I think maybe you’re going to want to hang around the city more on the weekends so you can see boys,” and their daughter responded by saying that’s “sexist.”

Seinfeld said, “They just want to use these words. ‘That’s racist, that’s sexist, that’s prejudice.’ They don’t even know what they’re talking about.”

Sounds a lot like After Hours.

www[dot]mediaite[dot]com/online/seinfeld-college-kids-way-too-pc-now-they-dont-even-know-what-racist-means/

OneOfThem

Considering just how tame Seinfeld's comedy is (not a dig, he's one of the greats) it must be pretty bad over there.

nokia69

OneOfThem wrote: »

Considering just how tame Seinfeld's comedy is (not a dig, he's one of the greats) it must be pretty bad over there.

won't be long before they catch up with this place

BoJack Horseman

And what's the deal with airline food!?

The_Valeyard

nokia69 wrote: »

won't be long before they catch up with this place

Wha?


I find our Irish humour can be very dark and unPC. We seem to generally take the piss out of everything, when were serious, when were having a laugh, when were upset.

Buzz Meeks

If I had Jerry's $250 million I'd only bother cracking an occasional joke to my servants/harem/ drug suppliers.

nokia69

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Wha?


I find our Irish humour can be very dark and unPC. We seem to generally take the piss out of everything, when were serious, when were having a laugh, when were upset.

I mean boards

toe the PC line or else

Mr. Incognito

Reminds me of the recent thread which morphed into a full blown sticky asking if AH was mysogonistic

But then again his daughter is Jewish so is used to being persecuted isn't she.....................

*RUNS

jonnypacket

A few years ago it was very common to see President George Bush caricatured as a monkey in political cartoons in the Sunday Times and other newspapers. If the same was done to Obama then the PC brigade would come crawling down from their tree-huts to scream "racist". Liberals have no sense of humour.

The_Valeyard

nokia69 wrote: »

I mean boards

toe the PC line or else

Suppose there are boundaries on here alright. But guess it's not an easy job for a mod or admin to keep the peace, so mny contrasting views and lifesytles your going to offend someone.

Eugene Norman

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Wha?


I find our Irish humour can be very dark and unPC. We seem to generally take the piss out of everything, when were serious, when were having a laugh, when were upset.

In private. Public conversations are very very PC.

Overheal

OneOfThem wrote: »

Considering just how tame Seinfeld's comedy is (not a dig, he's one of the greats) it must be pretty bad over there.

I don't even understand the argument, Darryl Robinson came to Clemson last spring and did a comedy show literally oozing with sex this and make sweet love to your woman that; I don't think anyone was offended, he put on a pretty good show.

BoJack Horseman

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

And what's the deal with airline food!?

Kenny Bania's screwed with his "Ovaltine" routine.

Overheal

jonnypacket wrote: »

A few years ago it was very common to see President George Bush caricatured as a monkey in political cartoons in the Sunday Times and other newspapers. If the same was done to Obama then the PC brigade would come crawling down from their tree-huts to scream "racist". Liberals have no sense of humour.

So, you have not seen an episode of Key and Peele?

("And I said '............biiiiiiiiiiiiitch.....'")

mikom

jonnypacket wrote: »

Jerry Seinfeld refuses to play colleges because of how Politically Correct they are

Kramer has been called in as a late sub.........

A Primal Nut

It's not just comedy either....

http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid

Some liberals are using the "it's offensive" line to shut down any opposing views. It's frightening.

RayM

jonnypacket wrote: »

Sounds a lot like After Hours.

After Hours is a lot of things, but... politically correct?

K4t

A Primal Nut wrote: »

It's not just comedy either....

http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid

Some liberals are using the "it's offensive" line to shut down any opposing views. It's frightening.

Liberals are the biggest threat to liberals...

e_e

Old Man Yells At Cloud

Nodin

jonnypacket wrote: »

A few years ago it was very common to see President George Bush caricatured as a monkey in political cartoons in the Sunday Times and other newspapers. If the same was done to Obama then the PC brigade would come crawling down from their tree-huts to scream "racist". Liberals have no sense of humour.

Yeah, because there's no baggage whatsoever with Afro-Americans and black people in general being compared to monkeys and apes. Not a one.

e_e

It's such a weird statement coming from him. Is he worried that he can't do his airline peanuts bit because someone might have an allergy or something?

Not to mention that there are most likely far more edgy and controversial comedians playing college campuses than him.

Mechanical Clocktail

The attitude of taking offense to everything oozes from certain societies on campuses. It's really the case of a few bad apples spoiling a whole lot more. The internet makes people homogenous and boring too. What's the consensus for anything? Go online and find out.

Mechanical Clocktail

e_e wrote: »

It's such a weird statement coming from him. Is he worried that he can't do his airline peanuts bit because someone might have an allergy or something?

Maybe, just maybe, his stand-up isn't a stage reenactment of Seinfeld.

Hans Bricks

"But how can Jerry say these things since political correctness is a mythical, non-existent word ?"

"You mean the mythical pc which doesn't exist ?"

I haven't read the thread but am I too late or has he beat me to it ?

Wibbs

Then again US colleges(and increasingly others elsewhere) can be bastions of complete fcuking lunacy of your permanently adolescent looking to be upset special snowflake brigade revved up by their ivory tower lecturers in the social sciences. A few years back Penn and Teller did an episode of their Bullshít! series on US campuses and some of what they found wouldn't be outa place in the Onion as far as surreal ridiculousness goes. It used to be on the 'Tube, but now only snippets. Copyright I suppose. This is one such snippet.

NSFW contains course language and scary ideas for some. May be "triggering"* for the weak of temperament.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2h6v01FlU4

"Speech codes" FFS. That was a few years ago and it's gotten worse, not better since then. Though a mate of mine attended a US college back in the mid 1980's and it had started even back then. And he was a guy who was and is about the most non offensive quiet scholarly types one could find. He reckoned back then I would have been lynched in under a week.





*seriously though, anyone who comes out with "triggering" in a debate or general comment or musing, it's generally a good indicator that they're likely to be a weak minded asshat and what follows will be complete weak minded asshattery.

e_e

Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »

Maybe, just maybe, his stand-up isn't a stage reenactment of Seinfeld.

I've heard a lot of it and it's not too different. Hell he even prides himself on not swearing on stage.

Mechanical Clocktail

e_e wrote: »

I've heard a lot of it and it's not too different. Hell he even prides himself on not swearing on stage.

Ya, fair enough. I wouldn't even go that far. I don't think he's funny. He's a far better businessman than comedian.

Boring username

nokia69 wrote: »

I mean boards

toe the PC line or else

Toe that line? TOE THE LINE? THAT'S OFFENSIVE™ TO DISABLED PEOPLE YOU SICK RACIST HOMOPHOBIC NAZI etc etc..... :P

ancapailldorcha

Colleges are businesses. Any sniff of anything that might be construed as offensive by the special snowflake (love that phrase) represents a potential loss of profits which is a big no-no. It's not just the US by any stretch. I work for the University of Sussex which is probably the last left-wing university in the UK and it's here as well. I'm holed up in a lab most of the day so it doesn't affect me personally but if I were working in politics, economics or philosophy I'd be feeling gagged. Universities are meant to be the ultimate bastions of free speech and ideas but this idea of running education solely for profit is anathema to that.

keeponhurling

I don't think Irish people really are as PC as reading boards.ie might make you think, in my experience

RayM

mikom wrote: »

Kramer has been called in as a late sub.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktZde2tEK1Y

"If only there was a horrible name that I could call you..."

Lagraso

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Wha?


I find our Irish humour can be very dark and unPC. We seem to generally take the piss out of everything, when were serious, when were having a laugh, when were upset.

We're fantastic aren't we.

jimgoose

I think Mr. George Carlin had the right of it when he explained, "You da fcukin' Hon-kaaayy!".

Lagraso

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Colleges are businesses. Any sniff of anything that might be construed as offensive by the special snowflake (love that phrase) represents a potential loss of profits which is a big no-no. It's not just the US by any stretch. I work for the University of Sussex which is probably the last left-wing university in the UK and it's here as well. I'm holed up in a lab most of the day so it doesn't affect me personally but if I were working in politics, economics or philosophy I'd be feeling gagged. Universities are meant to be the ultimate bastions of free speech and ideas but this idea of running education solely for profit is anathema to that.

It's interesting how so many people who identify with being left wing often tend to be quite authoritarian in their behaviours.

NachoBusiness

Chris Rock stopped a few years back also, for similar reasons.

I think the last one he played he called them all drunk white rich kids and told them that he hoped when the terrorists came back, they'd hit them first.

Something like that.

Not a NSA agent

Im not sure if its completely different in the US but in my experience of here what tends to happen is the 10 people who care about this kind of crap make some noise while the other 90%+ of students couldnt give a flying **** whats PC or not.

Cold War Kid

Not a NSA agent wrote: »

Im not sure if its completely different in the US but in my experience of here what tends to happen is the 10 people who care about this kind of crap make some noise while the other 90%+ of students couldnt give a flying **** whats PC or not.

Me too. Huge over-blowing of this "PC" phenomenon IMO.

Massimo Cassagrande

I understand where he's coming from - I refuse to play colleges too.

Yeah, they don't want me either..:(

NI24

The cynic in me thinks that Jerry is using this as an excuse because he knows he wouldn't be able to sell enough tickets on a college campus. The man is a has-been. I've seen plenty of more offensive comics on college campuses and they are welcome back time and time again, because they sell. Like what was said before, colleges are businesses--if he's funny enough, they don't care how offensive because it makes money. There aren't enough students who will be so offended by a rich white man and his observations that they'll drop out, therefore leading to financial losses, so any money-makers are welcome.

Did anyone see his attempts at re-entering the standup circuit by appearing on late-night shows? Truly pathetic.

KungPao

A Jew complaining about PC in the USA.

Oy vey.

OneOfThem

NI24 wrote: »

The cynic in me thinks that Jerry is using this as an excuse because he knows he wouldn't be able to sell enough tickets on a college campus. The man is a has-been. I've seen plenty of more offensive comics on college campuses and they are welcome back time and time again, because they sell. Like what was said before, colleges are businesses--if he's funny enough, they don't care how offensive because it makes money. There aren't enough students who will be so offended by a rich white man and his observations that they'll drop out, therefore leading to financial losses, so any money-makers are welcome.

Did anyone see his attempts at re-entering the standup circuit by appearing on late-night shows? Truly pathetic.

He sells out everything he is booked in. And has done since the nineties. And every stand up comedian there is recognises him as a master of the craft. He's never not sold out a venue since the TV show. But please tell us more about how he's afraid to bomb the college circuit.

Richard Hillman

Faux-Outrage is a scourge within the media and internet. I wouldn't call it political correctness. It's just people stirring it up to hound somebody they do not like.

jank

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Faux-Outrage is a scourge within the media and internet. I wouldn't call it political correctness. It's just people stirring it up to hound somebody they do not like.

So, who in particular is Jerry Seinfeld hounding in this instance.

Who is Chris Rock and George Carlin hounding in this article?

You recently hosted Saturday Night Live, and in the monologue, where you were talking about the opening of One World Trade, my wife and I both felt just like you: No way are we going into that building. But you look online the next morning, and some people were offended2and accused you of disparaging the 9/11 victims. The political correctness that was thought to be dead is now—

Oh, it’s back stronger than ever. I don’t pay that much attention to it. I mean, you don’t want to piss off the people that are paying you, obviously, but otherwise I’ve just been really good at ignoring it. Honestly, it’s not that people were offended by what I said. They get offended by how much fun I appear to be having while saying it. You could literally take everything I said on Saturday night and say it on Meet the Press, and it would be a general debate, and it would go away. But half of it’s because they think they can hurt comedians.

That they can hurt your career?

Yeah. They think you’re more accessible than Tom Brokaw saying the exact same thing.

What do you make of the attempt to bar Bill Maher from speaking at Berkeley for his riff on Muslims?3

Well, I love Bill, but I stopped playing colleges, and the reason is because they’re way too conservative.

In their political views?

Not in their political views — not like they’re voting Republican — but in their social views and their willingness not to offend anybody. Kids raised on a culture of “We’re not going to keep score in the game because we don’t want anybody to lose.” Or just ignoring race to a fault. You can’t say “the black kid over there.” No, it’s “the guy with the red shoes.” You can’t even be offensive on your way to being inoffensive.

When did you start to notice this?

About eight years ago. Probably a couple of tours ago. It was just like, This is not as much fun as it used to be. I remember talking to George Carlin before he died and him saying the exact same thing.

Lagraso

NI24 wrote: »

The cynic in me thinks that Jerry is using this as an excuse because he knows he wouldn't be able to sell enough tickets on a college campus. The man is a has-been. I've seen plenty of more offensive comics on college campuses and they are welcome back time and time again, because they sell. Like what was said before, colleges are businesses--if he's funny enough, they don't care how offensive because it makes money. There aren't enough students who will be so offended by a rich white man and his observations that they'll drop out, therefore leading to financial losses, so any money-makers are welcome.

Did anyone see his attempts at re-entering the standup circuit by appearing on late-night shows? Truly pathetic.

This Is one seriously bitter post.

Wibbs

Not a NSA agent wrote: »

Im not sure if its completely different in the US but in my experience of here what tends to happen is the 10 people who care about this kind of crap make some noise while the other 90%+ of students couldnt give a flying **** whats PC or not.

Sure here is a different kettle of fish, but US colleges can be another world. And its not just say a small percentage of the students, it's the faculty. It's much more top down, with "speech codes" and kangaroo courts making judgements that would be ripped apart, even illegal beyond the college gates.

jimgoose

Wibbs wrote: »

..."speech codes"....

A brother-in-law of mine is married to an American, and they live in Boston. Their youngfella is twelve or thirteen. One time when they were over I heard, from the next room, "Mo-oom! Dad called me a "Knob-Jockey"! What does that mean?!?"

Obviously I had to leave the house in convulsions! :pac:

jonnypacket

Is there anything more boring than the modern liberal-fascist? They seem incapable of cracking a smile and exist in a perpetual state of outrage, seeking out offense in the most innocuous of situations. Straight white males are the scapegoat for everything wrong in their joyless lives. It must be a miserable existence.

NI24

OneOfThem wrote: »

He sells out everything he is booked in. And has done since the nineties. And every stand up comedian there is recognises him as a master of the craft. He's never not sold out a venue since the TV show. But please tell us more about how he's afraid to bomb the college circuit.

If he played my alma mater he would be laughed out of the state. Jewish Manhattanites in their 60s telling outdated jokes in an outdated style don't do well among young people. Just because he can sell out Radio City Music Hall does not mean he'll do well in the college circuit. And it doesn't matter what every comedian says about him--the general public is a different group. I'm not saying he wasn't a master of the craft, I'm saying he isn't any longer. He's lost his touch and he knows it. His late night appearances were embarrassing. Many newer comedians are copying his style well by updating it and doing updated material, but at this point he needs to bow out gracefully. I'm sorry if this offends so many men who think that every old guy is some sort of a legend, but he is the definition of a has-been.

Oh, and the college circuit doesn't pay as well, so I'm sure that's a factor too.