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American cop shows

  • 08-06-2015 4:30pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭


    I have one conspiracy theory that involves how American TV and film portrays its defence forces.

    We're all familiar with American cop shows like CSI, where police forces have access to the most advanced technology nobody ever knew existed.

    Is this a conspiracy to make Americans think their police forces have futuristic technology that can do things like look at the layout of veins on your arms and identify you by it's uniqueness? In reality many American police forces are overworked and underfunded like most police forces around the world.

    Take this to the next level and we have the overwhelming assumption by everyone on the planet that America has god like powers of observation, that they can send their elite soldiers into any country, render whoever they like and disappear into a silent helicopter completely undetected.

    The list of their supposed superpowers is endless.
    Alien technology from Roswell.
    Genetic super soldiers.
    Nukes in space.
    They can read all your emails and listen to every word you say on your phone.


    Is this all just US propaganda? I know they have the most advanced military on the planet but sometimes I get the impression that some of their most advanced departments might just be a guy in a shell office with a laptop running software no more advanced than anything you can download off the internet for free.


    So is America "the wire" masquerading and "CSI", are conspiracy theorists really the result of a successful American propaganda campaign?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I wouldn't call it a propaganda campaign. As limited as the giant heads of media are (Walt Disney, Viacom, Sony, CBS, Time Warner, Comcast, 21st Century Fox, to name the most notable), they really can't exert control over each other. Yeah, there are topics that say, Jon Stewart wouldn't really be given the greenlight to talk about some topics regarding Viacom (conflicts of interest, which would usually be mentioned on his program as having his hands tied in discussing it) the same way Fox news has to declare conflicts of interest during reporting of issues regarding 21st century Fox - like the Rupert Murdoch thing years back.

    That said, nobody exerts control over all of these media singularly. You get your CSIs and your Criminal Minds and your Lie to Me on some networks, and on others you get Nat Geo's Alaska State Troopers, or you get Cops, or you get Bait Car, or Parking Wars, or Wildest Police Videos.

    So no, I don't think there is a conspiracy to lull the populace into thinking they cannot be independent and/or stand up to police forces. However, I would agree that its a lot rarer to find material that says "OK, this is how you get away from law enforcement," and I think that's just a case of general ethics. Who in their right mind would make a show where you design scenarios to resist arrest, hold your own in a shootout, etc.

    There are however cover-ups, all the time, of law enforcement activity. In the case of url]http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/02/07/massive-manhunt-underway-for-ex-cop-after-riverside-police-officer-fatally-shot/[/url there were live news broadcasts which intercept police chatter talking about how cops are ready to skip due process and take the guy out, which never really got discussed in depth afaik.

    As for the stealth helicopter, I think there was a conspiracy - surprise surprise - about whether such a helicopter actually exists, or if facts about the raid on Bin Laden's compound were misrepresented.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Reg'stoy


    I do on occasion when in need of a giggle, listen to the supreme commander of the american tinfoil hat brigade; alex jones. He reckons that most american police forces have equipment that can look through walls and use 'minority report' style precogs who can predict when you are going to commit a crime.

    Jones firmly believes that hollywood is nothing more than a front for the NWO to promote by way of its TV shows and Movies, their fiendish plan to either remove all of their weapons, depopulate the world (for some reason) or whatever is their latest mustache twirling Bond villain-esque plot. Invariably CT'ers pick on up on one aspect of the new technology and blow it up. Infra red can indeed see through walls but only heat sources. Thing is with the rapid exponential advances in science, stuff we thought was sci-fi will become reality. TV shows can just make up any new 'tech' and it will probably become real.

    I have to smile at the likes of CSI where they use use what appears to be the best of technology, yet walk around with no attempt to protect the 'crime scene' whereas our Garda techs don the painter white suits and only seem to have a tape measure.

    One cool piece of tech I know is real (I hope), is the ability to retrieve conversations by 'decoding' the vibrations caused by sounds hitting leaves and windows. As for the stealth helicopters, the problem there is noise as the blades get close or exceed the sound barrier as they rotate. Blade design is improving this sound effect but normally when they talk of stealth they do so in reference to radar signature. Here serious advances have been made to shield the heli from radar, sound will always be a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    noise from video analysis is a real thing, but probably years from practical deployment. We may have seen the same youtube video.

    I googled Alex Jones and lost a few brain cells.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    ScumLord wrote: »

    So is America "the wire" masquerading and "CSI", are conspiracy theorists really the result of a successful American propaganda campaign?

    Be careful Cameron and the boys will want to ban TV shows that turn law abiding citizens into conspiracy theorists
    They are just as bad as terrorists you know :)

    Why bother with fiction when you can twist the news

    State Propaganda: How Government Agencies Produce Hundreds of Pre-Packaged TV Segments the Media Runs as News

    http://www.democracynow.org/2005/3/14/state_propaganda_how_government_agencies_produce

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/politics/under-bush-a-new-age-of-prepackaged-tv-news.html?_r=0

    I have one conspiracy theory that involves how American TV and film portrays its defence forces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭pueblo


    Reg'stoy wrote: »
    I do on occasion when in need of a giggle, listen to the supreme commander of the american tinfoil hat brigade; alex jones. He reckons that most american police forces have equipment that can look through walls and use 'minority report' style precogs who can predict when you are going to commit a crime.

    Jones firmly believes that hollywood is nothing more than a front for the NWO to promote by way of its TV shows and Movies, their fiendish plan to either remove all of their weapons, depopulate the world (for some reason) or whatever is their latest mustache twirling Bond villain-esque plot. Invariably CT'ers pick on up on one aspect of the new technology and blow it up. Infra red can indeed see through walls but only heat sources. Thing is with the rapid exponential advances in science, stuff we thought was sci-fi will become reality. TV shows can just make up any new 'tech' and it will probably become real.

    I have to smile at the likes of CSI where they use use what appears to be the best of technology, yet walk around with no attempt to protect the 'crime scene' whereas our Garda techs don the painter white suits and only seem to have a tape measure.

    One cool piece of tech I know is real (I hope), is the ability to retrieve conversations by 'decoding' the vibrations caused by sounds hitting leaves and windows. As for the stealth helicopters, the problem there is noise as the blades get close or exceed the sound barrier as they rotate. Blade design is improving this sound effect but normally when they talk of stealth they do so in reference to radar signature. Here serious advances have been made to shield the heli from radar, sound will always be a problem.

    Because the world is fast approaching (if not there already) over population?

    (just for the record not my view)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Reg'stoy wrote: »
    I have to smile at the likes of CSI where they use use what appears to be the best of technology, yet walk around with no attempt to protect the 'crime scene' whereas our Garda techs don the painter white suits and only seem to have a tape measure.
    Or when one of their buddies gets shot they just hold their hand rather than do first aid.

    There are certainly US TV shows and films that borrow equipment from the US military and they have to show the military in a good light. Of course these would be very big budget productions, the smaller guys though want to copy the big boys and we end up in a position where the US military is getting knock on propaganda effects from being involved in a few big budget films.

    The US military could be conspiring with hollywood to portray the US as a technological wonder power so that hollywood can get access to all the US Military's cool toys. For the most part the US is always portrayed in a pretty good light. Even when the story is negative, there's always a redeeming feature to save them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Or when one of their buddies gets shot they just hold their hand rather than do first aid.

    There are certainly US TV shows and films that borrow equipment from the US military and they have to show the military in a good light. Of course these would be very big budget productions, the smaller guys though want to copy the big boys and we end up in a position where the US military is getting knock on propaganda effects from being involved in a few big budget films.

    The US military could be conspiring with hollywood to portray the US as a technological wonder power so that hollywood can get access to all the US Military's cool toys. For the most part the US is always portrayed in a pretty good light. Even when the story is negative, there's always a redeeming feature to save them.


    I dont know but could it be more than loaning them a few tanks and the odd aircraft carrier

    This was set up by Department of Defense



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Yup they've got their fingers in all the pies. Even if the people they fund aren't expressly told "don't show American forces in a bad light", they will be unusually positive about all things American military.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭darrenw5O94


    Don't believe anything you see on the tv :)


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