Saab 93 Petrol, 2008, Auto

obi604

Thought on this car

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/cars-for-sale/saab-93-1-8t-linear-biopower-175bhp/9349407?offset=9

Are saab a dead duck now completely and henceforth, would this be a foolish buy

is the reason they shut due to very bad reliability ?

jimgoose

They were murdered by General Motors in 1994 when they turned the Saab 900 into an Opel Vectra. The corpse lurched hideously on until 2008, when after some years of arsing about by GM in "talks" and gradually pulling funding, Saab went into administration. The carcass was purchased by Spyker Cars in 2011, but being window-licking head-cases that didn't help much and they couldn't get funding, including an attempt to get it from some Russian gangster type that was kyboshed by the European Investment Bank. GM finally gave it a flake of a shovel that December by pulling its technology patents and Saab finally filed for bankruptcy.

Atlantic Dawn

Seems very pricey for me regardless of the future of Saab.

obi604

jimgoose wrote: »

They were murdered by General Motors in 1994 when they turned the Saab 900 into an Opel Vectra. The corpse lurched hideously on until 2008, when after some years of arsing about by GM in "talks" and gradually pulling funding, Saab went into administration. The carcass was purchased by Spyker Cars in 2011, but being window-licking head-cases that didn't help much and they couldn't get funding, including an attempt to get it from some Russian gangster type that was kyboshed by the European Investment Bank. GM finally gave it a flake of a shovel that December by pulling its technology patents and Saab finally filed for bankruptcy.

fair enough, thanks for explanation.

so based on all that, would the above Saab be a foolish buy ?

jimgoose

obi604 wrote: »

fair enough, thanks for explanation.

so based on all that, would the above Saab be a foolish buy ?

Yes, but only because it's at least twice the price it should be.

obi604

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Seems very pricey for me regardless of the future of Saab.

Yeah, that's what I thought, but James Hennessey from recollection seems to have some very stupid prices on their cars, waaaaaay over priced

obi604

Regardless of the cost though, are these petrol Saabs reliable ?

martin gillespie

obi604 wrote: »

Thought on this car

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/cars-for-sale/saab-93-1-8t-linear-biopower-175bhp/9349407?offset=9

Are saab a dead duck now completely and henceforth, would this be a foolish buy

is the reason they shut due to very bad reliability ?

, They are reliable and nice to drive , very well engineered compared to the vectra , this annoyed GM , go on to you tube and look for history of saab Top Gear.
I am buying one myself. Future classic

obi604

martin gillespie wrote: »

, They are reliable and nice to drive , very well engineered compared to the vectra , this annoyed GM , go on to you tube and look for history of saab Top Gear.
I am buying one myself. Future classic

Thanks. Im just looking for a reliable car that I can drive away i onky do 5000 miles a year so just w6abt to drive it and service every 5000 miles.

But i suppose this sll depends on how it was treated up to now.

blade1

Just so you are aware, even though the badge says 1.8, there is a 2.0 engine so tax will be that bit higher.

bazz26

Those biopower engines are thirsty too but at only doing 5000 miles a year it shouldn't be a big deal.

obi604

bazz26 wrote: »

Those biopower engines are thirsty too but at only doing 5000 miles a year it shouldn't be a big deal.

When you say thirsty, are they very thirsty entirely?

Puddle Q

obi604 wrote: »

When you say thirsty, are they very thirsty entirely?

Very very great thirst unslakable even

obi604

Puddle Q wrote: »

Very very great thirst unslakable even

Great input, thanks. :rolleyes:

bazz26

martin gillespie wrote: »

, They are reliable and nice to drive , very well engineered compared to the vectra , this annoyed GM , go on to you tube and look for history of saab Top Gear.
I am buying one myself. Future classic

I don't think they were that well engineered to be honest. Build quality was never anything special in them from launch, it improved a bit with the facelift but Saab were already on death's door at that stage. Fit and finish of the interior switch gear was way behind the competition.

obi604 wrote: »

When you say thirsty, are they very thirsty entirely?

Fuel consumption was alot higher than other 1.8/2.0 litre engines. They could run on bio fuel as well as unleaded. That was great when the bio fuel was available here and was alot cheaper than unleaded, so higher fuel consumption was hidden by the lower cost of filling up. These days however the biofuel is no long sold in the Republic so your stuck with unleaded only. Volvo and Ford dabbed with similar bio fuel engines too for a time but again they also had higher fuel consumption. These engines have lower servicing intervals too.

If you want something reliable hen look at the Honda Accord:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Honda/Accord/2.0-EXECUTIVE/153814281547528340/

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Honda/Accord/2.0-EXECUTIVE/161614321201957870/

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Honda/Accord/2.0-EXECUTIVE/127414208921813520/

obi604

bazz26 wrote: »

I don't think they were that well engineered to be honest. Build quality was never anything special in them from launch, it improved a bit with the facelift but Saab were already on death's door at that stage. Fit and finish of the interior switch gear was way behind the competition.



Fuel consumption was alot higher than other 1.8/2.0 litre engines. They could run on bio fuel as well as unleaded. That was great when the bio fuel was available here and was alot cheaper than unleaded, so higher fuel consumption was hidden by the lower cost of filling up. These days however the biofuel is no long sold in the Republic so your stuck with unleaded only. Volvo and Ford dabbed with similar bio fuel engines too for a time but again they also had higher fuel consumption. These engines have lower servicing intervals too.

If you want something reliable hen look at the Honda Accord:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Honda/Accord/2.0-EXECUTIVE/153814281547528340/

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Honda/Accord/2.0-EXECUTIVE/161614321201957870/

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Honda/Accord/2.0-EXECUTIVE/127414208921813520/

Now thats an educated reply Puddle Q !!!

Thanks bazz, I drove these petrol Honda accords before and didn't really like them to be honest.


Anyone on here with some real world experience of owning a Saab 93 petrol from 2008 onwards.

martin gillespie

obi604 wrote: »

When you say thirsty, are they very thirsty entirely?

Thery are not that thirsty and their are plenty on the road , parts are not a problem either.
And still one of the best looking cars on the road

obi604

martin gillespie wrote: »

Thery are not that thirsty and their are plenty on the road , parts are not a problem either.
And still one of the best looking cars on the road

are you speaking from real word experience ?

colm_mcm

Looking at the figures. The co2 emissions on a bio power automatic are 205 g/km

If it were on co2 tax it would be €1200

This is a good indication that it's a pig on fuel.

obi604

colm_mcm wrote: »

Looking at the figures. The co2 emissions on a bio power automatic are 205 g/km

ok, which means what, higher tax than a manual version ?

ignore, I replied too early

colm_mcm

It's not taxed on emissions, being early 08, the emissions figure tells its own story though.

but anyone saying they're not hard on fuel is either lying or has never put petrol in one.
Even the manual one I had from work was hard on petrol. The automatic uses even more

If doing small mileage, mpg isn't a big deal, but I can't see the appeal of this particular car.