UK National Diploma not good enough for green cert!!

Toby12345

I can't believe a National Diploma in Agriculture is not good enough to qualify for the green cert. I just found this out now after years of assuming I was grand. Seems I will have to go back to college for a bit to top up.

Has anyone else had a problem with this?? Is there any other way around it?

whelan2

Toby12345 wrote: »

I can't believe a National Diploma in Agriculture is not good enough to qualify for the green cert. I just found this out now after years of assuming I was grand. Seems I will have to go back to college for a bit to top up.

Has anyone else had a problem with this?? Is there any other way around it?

20 odd years ago it was the same

arthur daly

Bet the UK one is of a higher standard

DK man

Seems a bit mad but it doesn't surprise me... Have they offered any explanation? Considering that you can get a green cert by doing online courses... Great wee country...

Have you looked into the Bologna agreement? A European agreement - which basically means that if another member country recognise a particular qualification then cosignatories also have to accept it... You might get them on that point...

There is also the framework for qualifications and there is a European one which is supposed to fit in with the Irish one. A friend of mine who is a Garda and a qualified accountant was told he wouldn't get an education allowance because he didn't have a degree or masters. He found out that his qualification was ranked above degree on the framework and they had to give it to him...

Best of luck and happy farming

Nettleman

Toby12345 wrote: »

I can't believe a National Diploma in Agriculture is not good enough to qualify for the green cert. I just found this out now after years of assuming I was grand. Seems I will have to go back to college for a bit to top up.

Has anyone else had a problem with this?? Is there any other way around it?

Its obvious isn't it..., you didn't spend 2 grand with an irish government agency to get that qualification:rolleyes:, Have you tried to contact QQI/FETAC and ask them to determine the irish equivalent of your course. FETAC level 6 or equivalents should be acceptable

kowtow

When I looked into it I worked out that I didn't qualify for a green cert either.

At least not without becoming a hairdresser first or something.

Have better things to do with my time than become an added complication in a system which is clearly already beyond the understanding of the people who operate it.

Timmaay

Have you been in touch with teagasc? I know my two part time ag courses I had to do alongside the engineering degree weren't actually enough on their own, but teagasc were able to give me a letter stating that it was the equivalent to a green cert and covered me to be called a young farmer.

Toby12345

Timmaay wrote: »

Have you been in touch with teagasc? I know my two part time ag courses I had to do alongside the engineering degree weren't actually enough on their own, but teagasc were able to give me a letter stating that it was the equivalent to a green cert and covered me to be called a young farmer.

It was Teagasc told me my diploma was only equivalent to level 5 when it needs to be 6 for a green cert. I did 3 years for that diploma.

frazzledhome

Got mine in Holland 1988. Was told the same. I went to Teagasc and got a letter stating it was good enough and was awarded Green Cert

Different times, education officer was willing to bat for me

freedominacup

frazzledhome wrote: »

Got mine in Holland 1988. Was told the same. I went to Teagasc and got a letter stating it was good enough and was awarded Green Cert

Different times, education officer was willing to bat for me

I got equivalence on an ANCA a couple of years ago. The stunt they pull is to try to make you get equivalence to the current green cert when by the law rather than their current regulations all you need is equivalence to the standard of green cert available when you got your overseas qualification. Teagasc not too bad on it to be fair. The relevant section is in one of the Dublin offices.

There's a national outfit whose name escapes me who are no help whatsoever and in the end of the day they will be relying on Teagasc expertise to adjudicate on it. Basically they have some rubber stamps and are drunk on power. Love saying no.

Teagasc Kinsealy was the office. If for revenue ignore leaflet SD2B use SD2A or older.

Toby12345

freedominacup wrote: »

I got equivalence on an ANCA a couple of years ago. The stunt they pull is to try to make you get equivalence to the current green cert when by the law rather than their current regulations all you need is equivalence to the standard of green cert available when you got your overseas qualification. Teagasc not too bad on it to be fair. The relevant section is in one of the Dublin offices.

Thank you, now that sounds like a way forward. I will try and get hold of someone about it.