'How I became a drug cheat athlete to test the system'

katnia

Interesting article on EPO and the Biological Passport system...quite a good read.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32983932

Macy0161

I watched the programme, whilst the testimony/ historical investigation was interesting, I wasn’t as convinced on the biopassport stuff. My understanding of the passport is that it takes them a significantly longer period to build up a profile, and therefore to identify anomalies. Not saying it can't, and isn't, being cheated and dopers are getting away with it, but I'm not sure this type of stuff (short time frame of before and after testing) really adds that much tbh.

The Passport can also be used for identifying suspicious levels for target testing, as well as outright passport cases. The way to tackle micro dosing is 24/7 availability for testing.

Euro Fred

Have a read of this, longer period of time with more PED's

http://http://www.outsideonline.com/1924306/drug-test

godtabh

its a good read but did we learn anything?

Also how applicable is what he did to the long term monitoring of a pro cyclists? 14 week experiment compared to years of data

Euro Fred

godtabh wrote: »

its a good read but did we learn anything?

Drugs make you go fast

katnia

Euro Fred wrote: »

Have a read of this, longer period of time with more PED's

http://http://www.outsideonline.com/1924306/drug-test

That's a very good (and interesting) read!

godtabh

Euro Fred wrote: »

Drugs make you go fast

Probably should have added 'new' at the end of that!

perrier

Excellent piece by the BBC on the use of EPO micro doses'.

Basically the reporter takes EPO, monitors the effects and then tries to pass the current doping controls and blood passport

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-32983932

Kavrocks

Its already been posted http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057441362/1/.

A very interesting read nonetheless. Not sure what to think of it.

Chips Lovell

Threads merged

Morrisseeee

Whatever about the Pros taking/doing it, what about amateurs ?
I'm fairly sure there are amateurs out there going, yep, i'll give that a go !!
With in mind, what are the doping controls in Ireland like at amateur level ?

This is pretty alarming !!

Despite taking EPO for seven weeks, seeing steady rises in my haemoglobin and haematocrit counts, and gaining a significant performance benefit, I was clean.

Raymzor

In my opinion what this shows is that the difference between altitude training benefits and micro dosing with EPO is not detectable by the biological passport. The experiment didn't include blood testing for banned substances. This highlights the need for the biological passport to be used in conjunction with testing for banned substances. The blood testing for performance enhancing drugs MUST continue rigorously. Given what I have seen in the last 9 grand tours unfortunately I'm not convinced the sport is any cleaner since the introduction of the biological passport. It is also being touted as the solution for all other sports which this great experiment identifies as a a false dawn. I hope Quintana wins the tour.

Juan More Time

Excellent documentary...

Linky..

https://youtu.be/YbuAo6YQSHk