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Loan Gift tax?

  • 03-06-2015 8:56am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭


    Hi,
    I want to give a member of my family some money circa 40k as a loan.

    Can this be done?
    do I have to pay gift tax...what are the implications for me and her?
    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    fatalll wrote: »
    Hi,
    I want to give a member of my family some money circa 40k as a loan.

    Can this be done?
    do I have to pay gift tax...what are the implications for me and her?
    thanks

    Well is it a loan or a gift?

    If its a loan it's not a gift!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭fatalll


    loan.
    I just don't want to wind up paying tax on it as Ive already payed tax on it from my wages.
    Its a loan that may be payed back eventually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭adrianw


    Is there any interest being charged?
    If there is no interest being charged, Revenue will deem the interest free benefit to be a gift to the individual receiving the money.
    If we assume a bank would normally look for 10%, there will be a deemed gift of €4,000 euro a year.
    There is a annual allowance of €3,000 per year. Therefore this would be slightly over the threshold.
    However, if the cash is coming from a joint account and being given to a child for a house deposit for example, both parents can give €3,000 a year, therefore increasing the allowable deemed interest amount to €6,000.
    You should set up a loan agreement, just to avoid potential confusion in later years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭fatalll


    adrianw wrote: »
    Is there any interest being charged?
    If there is no interest being charged, Revenue will deem the interest free benefit to be a gift to the individual receiving the money.
    If we assume a bank would normally look for 10%, there will be a deemed gift of €4,000 euro a year.
    There is a annual allowance of €3,000 per year. Therefore this would be slightly over the threshold.
    However, if the cash is coming from a joint account and being given to a child for a house deposit for example, both parents can give €3,000 a year, therefore increasing the allowable deemed interest amount to €6,000.
    You should set up a loan agreement, just to avoid potential confusion in later years.

    Thanks
    So Can I draw up a loan agreement myself over any amount of years with a interest rate of ecb interest rate?
    Just get both of us to sign or does the agreement have to go to some government agency?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    fatalll wrote: »
    loan.
    I just don't want to wind up paying tax on it as Ive already payed tax on it from my wages.
    Its a loan that may be payed back eventually

    If your giving the loan, you won't have to pay any Tax


    If your giving it as a loan for a deposit, then the bank will need you to sign a letter saying it is a gift and you will not be seeking repayment.

    Of its a loan , the letter needs to say as much and then they will reduce their offer on the basis that they have an outstanding loan


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭fatalll


    ted1 wrote: »
    If your giving the loan, you won't have to pay any Tax


    If your giving it as a loan for a deposit, then the bank will need you to sign a letter saying it is a gift and you will not be seeking repayment.

    Of its a loan , the letter needs to say as much and then they will reduce their offer on the basis that they have an outstanding loan

    Thanks Ted1


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