DPF Removal

wyliecoyote1

Hi,

Considering removing my dpf filter and getting it mapped out. Not looking for any extra power just looking to get rid of it.

However im seeing quite a difference in price ranging from 600 to 250 euro.

Sportchip are offering it for 250 quid!!

I would be defo inclined to be spending that rather than 600.

Whats the difference?

I rang about four different places today and asked why there is such a difference in price and i got answers from " well, how was there english?" to "there just a group of polish lads who just wont answer there phone whens theres any problems with it".

I would prefer to spend less but is it really the case of you get what you pay for? i presume its a simple enough job.

Any feed back from people who have gotten a cheap removal would be great

Regards

murphyebass

wyliecoyote1 wrote: »

Hi,

Considering removing my dpf filter and getting it mapped out. Not looking for any extra power just looking to get rid of it.

However im seeing quite a difference in price ranging from 600 to 250 euro.

Sportchip are offering it for 250 quid!!

I would be defo inclined to be spending that rather than 600.

Whats the difference?

I rang about four different places today and asked why there is such a difference in price and i got answers from " well, how was there english?" to "there just a group of polish lads who just wont answer there phone whens theres any problems with it".

I would prefer to spend less but is it really the case of you get what you pay for? i presume its a simple enough job.

Any feed back from people who have gotten a cheap removal would be great

Regards

I recently considered this on the Mazda 6 quoted €250 with Sportchip too.

I decided against it in the end as I kept hearing people say it could do damage not having it there (which I reckon is bs) and that it could become part of the nct to check it etc.

I had mine regen'd in the end instead.

It is very tempting to whip it out though especially for €250.

Oh nearly forgot to say the insurance company said it would be a change / modification to the car and would need to inspected and passed / verified. It could potentially change the insurance.

wyliecoyote1

murphyebass wrote: »

I recently considered this on the Mazda 6 quoted €250 with Sportchip too.

I decided against it in the end as I kept hearing people say it could do damage not having it there (which I reckon is bs) and that it could become part of the nct to check it etc.

I had mine regen'd in the end instead.

It is very tempting to whip it out though especially for €250.

Oh nearly forgot to say the insurance company said it would be a change to the car and would need to inspected and passed / verified. It could potentially change the insurance.

Well considering all my journeys are short i end up having to do a regen myself once a week the light comes on.

However they all said that eventually it will be necessary for the nct but its only a visual check.

And when i rang all the places they just de-core out the dpf so it looks like its still there

But no one could give me a good concrete answer as to why not get it done for 250 other than the reason i mentioned above

murphyebass

wyliecoyote1 wrote: »

Well considering all my journeys are short i end up having to do a regen myself once a week the light comes on.

However they all said that eventually it will be necessary for the nct but its only a visual check.

And when i rang all the places they just de-core out the dpf so it looks like its still there

But no one could give me a good concrete answer as to why not get it done for 250 other than the reason i mentioned above

If you're doin all short journeys maybe diesel not the right car for you?

I'm borderline myself but my work means I might end up needing it for longer journeys at a drop of a hat.

wyliecoyote1

murphyebass wrote: »

If you're doin all short journeys maybe diesel not the right car for you?

I'm borderline myself but my work means I might end up needing it for longer journeys at a drop of a hat.

yeah i know, but i just bought the car and already put loads of money in. I rather rip the dpf out and resolve all my problems

elreberendo

wyliecoyote1 wrote: »

yeah i know, but i just bought the car and already put loads of money in. I rather rip the dpf out and resolve all my problems

Any luck with this? Or any issues/improvements so far?

I'm considering to buying a used diesel car that comes without DPF but I'm not too keen because of future NCT tests might check if it's there or even fail to pass the smokes test?

I drive very short trips everyday and mostly with bad/cold weather (I walk otherwise), around 2 miles to work in town (around 10 min with traffic).

Cheers.

Del2005

elreberendo wrote: »

Any luck with this? Or any issues/improvements so far?

I'm considering to buying a used diesel car that comes without DPF but I'm not too keen because of future NCT tests might check if it's there or even fail to pass the smokes test?

I drive very short trips everyday and mostly with bad/cold weather (I walk otherwise), around 2 miles to work in town (around 10 min with traffic).

Cheers.

A diesel is the wrong car for you with or without a DPF. Get either a petrol,hybrid or electric.

elreberendo

Del2005 wrote: »

A diesel is the wrong car for you with or without a DPF. Get either a petrol,hybrid or electric.

I know, but petrol is too expensive, nearly 20c more than diesel per litre, if I drive to Dublin (not often, but happens sooner or later) I would hate to spend €80-€100 in petrol like happen before with a Volvo 2.0S

Hybrid are too expensive, besides I need an estate car and can't see any around €10k.

Electric would be perfect for my day to day but not for long trips (to Dublin, Tralee, Galway, Donegal) that I do really seldom, but do.

I've had diesel cars all the time and never had a problem, all reg before 2005, that's why I don't know how this DPF filter works on a 2010 diesel that I've seen on donedeal, and the possible NCT issues, etc... and that's why I'm asking.

vectra

Got one done and saw more done by my local "Polish" mechanics,
They are 100% first class in everything they do and stand over their work.
They have a dyno in their workshop so give a before and after reading as well.

One car I saw done gave an improvement of approx 14mpg on a Cork Dublin trip. So for that alone it was worth it, along with a big increase in power and driveability.

Not sure where you lads are but these guys are in Fermoy.

Mc Love

Must get down there at some stage Vectra, would love to do it

wersal gummage

Is a DPF designed to stop harmful emissions coming out the back of diesel cars? I've heard some of these emissions can be particularly harmful, especially in cities. The likes of Paris etc moving towards a ban on diesel cars from cities in a few years, phasing it in.

Not trying to be one of the high horse crowd or cause an argument here but if DPF is supposed to make the air we breath cleaner then I really hope the NCT nail people who have removed them. Apologies if i've got this wrong and this isn't the proper function of the DPF

Fiskar

I had mine done after it started stuttering with no errors, the drivability and the 15% improvement in economy are an eye opener. Why the hell use diesel if the DPF is restricting the economy so much. If the issue is particulate emissions then they should ban diesel altogether as the emissions systems are an expensive drivers nightmare.

Vicxas

I had my DPF removed by the lads in sportschip, and I see a massive improvement in performance and economy.

Going on my L/100km i'm now saving an extra liter on my regular drives.

vectra

Mc Love wrote: »

Must get down there at some stage Vectra, would love to do it

Well worth it.
The one I saw mentioned above went from 153 bhp to 199'6
and from 230 torque to 300,

She can shift now

wersal gummage wrote: »

Is a DPF designed to stop harmful emissions coming out the back of diesel cars? I've heard some of these emissions can be particularly harmful, especially in cities. The likes of Paris etc moving towards a ban on diesel cars from cities in a few years, phasing it in.

Not trying to be one of the high horse crowd or cause an argument here but if DPF is supposed to make the air we breath cleaner then I really hope the NCT nail people who have removed them. Apologies if i've got this wrong and this isn't the proper function of the DPF

I sincerely hope you hold the same sentiments to those that did a Decat on their petrol cars. :cool:

mullingar

A DPF does nothing for the dangerous NOx emissions. All a DPF does is filter out the carbon dust particles, nothing more.

All that a NCT tests for is the opacity (smoke level), no chemical analysis whatsoever, unlike petrols.

Newer very fancy diesels are now using Adblue additive in a second tank to reduce Nox emissions. AdBlue has been used in trucks/buses for many years now

wersal gummage

vectra wrote: »

I sincerely hope you hold the same sentiments to those that did a Decat on their petrol cars. :cool:

What's that? Removing the catalytic convertor in a petrol car? And that does what? Saves the car owner from expensive repairs and increases toxic or dangerous emissions into the atmosphere?? (genuine questions). If so, yeah I would be strongly against such a practice.

Don't get me wrong, I like cars and if I had a nice diesel car and had a DPF failure I'd be very tempted to go for the removal rather than the repair, but that's only because it can be gotten away with. I think the NCT should make sure the emissions are kept as low as designed (whether it's petrol or diesel).

wersal gummage

mullingar wrote: »

A DPF does nothing for the dangerous NOx emissions. All a DPF does is filter out the carbon dust particles, nothing more.

All that a NCT tests for is the opacity (smoke level), no chemical analysis whatsoever, unlike petrols.

Newer very fancy diesels are now using Adblue additive in a second tank to reduce Nox emissions. AdBlue has been used in trucks/buses for many years now

Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the specifics. I did a quick Google earlier after my first post and I found reference to a DPF removing dangerous soot particles from escaping into the atmosphere but it's not something I understand.

millington

When I rang Sportchip it was 250+VAT so just make sure to ask.

Got it taken out of a Volvo S40 1.6d locally, no noticable difference apart from getting rid of the errors!

Anjobe

mullingar wrote: »

A DPF does nothing for the dangerous NOx emissions. All a DPF does is filter out the carbon dust particles, nothing more.

Diesel exhaust fumes are categorised as a Category 1 Human carcinogen by the WHO. They cause lung cancer and possibly bladder cancer as well. The main cancer causing agents are the particulates themselves and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, which coat the soot particles - link.

wersal gummage wrote: »

Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the specifics. I did a quick Google earlier after my first post and I found reference to a DPF removing dangerous soot particles from escaping into the atmosphere but it's not something I understand.

You should have trusted your Google result!

vectra

millington wrote: »

When I rang Sportchip it was 250+VAT so just make sure to ask.

Got it taken out of a Volvo S40 1.6d locally, no noticable difference apart from getting rid of the errors!

Did you not get it remapped at the same time?

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chriity139

You have to get a remap after the dpf is removed to notice a difference. I doubt that price of 250 includes a remap. I would say its just removal

vectra

chriity139 wrote: »

You have to get a remap after the dpf is removed to notice a difference. I doubt that price of 250 includes a remap. I would say its just removal

Those guys charge 250 for some cars for dpf removal and a remap.
Others are 350.