Old model Accord or new model?

PatL23

Iv been looking at Accords and there's a 3-4k premium between the old model and the new one. I'm looking at 08-9 Irish and UK ones with 160k kilometres . Uk ones have better service history and are better value.
Does the difference between the two models justify the premium?
The Old model is lighter on fuel and has more room in the rear. New model is probably more refined though
How well do the two models remap?
What are the cars like in general, any owners experiences here?

Also how do they compare to a4s and passats? I'd love a 520d but good ones are over my budget sadly.

bazz26

They both have different engines too. The newer model is larger and heavier but the newer i-DTEC engine is a big heavier on fuel. Timing chains can give problems on the older diesel models too but I think this should have been sorted by the time the old models came towards the end of it's life.

Another thing to factor in is that the old model is now a 12 year old design so feels more dated.

Passat CC is worth looking at too, will return better fuel consumption than the newer Accord and has good resale value.

PatL23

Passat cc are very nice cars alright but the first models are only a 4 seater I believe? Newer 5 seater ones will be out of my budget sadly. I'd buy the dsg if I was to buy a cc
Are the i-dtec engines much heavier on fuel? I'd have a 09 accord cleared for 10k. Newer passat cc probably 14-15k

Do accords have enough poke for overtaking without a remap?

colm_mcm

I'd be dubious of a 10k 09 accord. I looked at loads lately and there are so many bad ones out there.
With exchange rate and vrt, it'd need to be very cheap in the UK.
The old one is quite dated now, especially inside.

Any ones sub 13k in Ireland tend to be clocked/wrecked.

bazz26

The i-DTEC engine is not noted for being very frugal. Low 40s mpg is common enough with them. The VAG 2.0 CR TDi engine would be more frugal.

PatL23

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'd be dubious of a 10k 09 accord. I looked at loads lately and there are so many bad ones out there.
With exchange rate and vrt, it'd need to be very cheap in the UK.
The old one is quite dated now, especially inside.

Any ones sub 13k in Ireland tend to be clocked/wrecked.

Thanks for the heads up. I guess I'll have to look for a good old model as I can't afford to spend that much on a car atm and I don't think i want to finance it. Ill also look at more passat ccs

bazz26

What about a Volvo S80:
http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Volvo/S80/S80-2.0/161614320367723920/
or this one:
http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Volvo/S80/D5-EXECUTIVE..SAT/165414326414355630/

trabpc

What MPG depends entirely on how its driven. Fast lane 130 down the motorway will return 46.

My 05 returns 53mpg at 110kph. I cover 200km a day. 90% motorway. Have it 7yrs. Doubt any vag will be much better mpg. But I guarantee the vag and your mechanic will be best of friends, they will know each other very well...

Your driving style and route will dictate your mpg

PatL23

bazz26 wrote: »

What about a Volvo S80:
http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Volvo/S80/S80-2.0/161614320367723920/
or this one:
http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Volvo/S80/D5-EXECUTIVE..SAT/165414326414355630/

Wow them seats look luxurious and the 2.4d auto would be a pleasure to drive I'm sure. How are they for reliability as I hear volvos can be expensive to repair? They seem like a lot of car for the money so what gives?

hof1982

I'm currently driving an 09 Accord. It's a solid car without being spectacular. Very comfortable and plenty of gadgets aswell. I'll get 47 on motorway spins and typically 44 on more mixed driving. I have mine nearly a year at this stage and have had no problems apart from the hatchet job the previous owner did on the DPF. If you want something fairly reliable with reasonable fuel economy and good comfort then it's a good bet. Let me know if you have any more queries.

George Dalton

trabpc wrote: »

What MPG depends entirely on how its driven. Fast lane 130 down the motorway will return 46.

My 05 returns 53mpg at 110kph. I cover 200km a day. 90% motorway. Have it 7yrs. Doubt any vag will be much better mpg. But I guarantee the vag and your mechanic will be best of friends, they will know each other very well...

Your driving style and route will dictate your mpg

The point being made was that the older model like your car is better on fuel than the newer model.

In other words if you swapped your car for a newer model you wouldn't have a hope of getting 53mpg out of it in like for like conditions..

bazz26

PatL23 wrote: »

Wow them seats look luxurious and the 2.4d auto would be a pleasure to drive I'm sure. How are they for reliability as I hear volvos can be expensive to repair? They seem like a lot of car for the money so what gives?

Volvo parts can be expensive especially from main dealers but the D5 engine is very reliable and smooth with plenty of grunt. The S80 doesn't hold it's value very well because they are not seen in the same light as it's German counterparts.

trabpc

George Dalton wrote: »

The point being made was that the older model like your car is better on fuel than the newer model.

In other words if you swapped your car for a newer model you wouldn't have a hope of getting 53mpg out of it in like for like conditions..

I understood that. I'm aware newer model is slightly harder. However driving style will still dictate OP's mpg.

George Dalton

trabpc wrote: »

I understood that. I'm aware newer model is slightly harder. However driving style will still dictate OP's mpg.

No. Driving style is just one factor. It along with many other factors combined will dictate the mpg.

Obviously driving style has a major effect on the absolute mpg figure but the relative mpg between different cars of the same type and class with the same driver and driving style can be quite large.