Suspending reality for entertainment purposes

fizzypish

Right. This is about how much your willing to let a movie get away with before you say "**** this, thats just stupid". Par example:

Iron man: Incredibly brainy man makes combat suit with home made ordnance and life saving electro magnet/ clean fuel device in a dusty shed out of old missile parts and bits of land rovers. Brain says OK.

Same man in highly advanced suit gets hit with a tank shell. Brain say **** that he'd be vibrated to mush. There's comic book reasons (Probably, never was a comic guy) for most of these but some I simply can't accept.
And the real stupid thing is that I can simply accept the alien man flying around with a hammer. WTF brain?

Or that film wanted. So your telling me you can curve the flight of a bullet by flicking your wrist.... just **** off

I'm not saying I don't enjoy movies where this occurs but the more times it does, it diminishes my enjoyment. I think the likes of the Dark Knight trilogy did so well for me was because most of it was relatively feasible (Ok bit of a stretch) .
So AH what your suspension of reality breaking point in a movie (or other)?

Links234

Don't ever watch the Lord of the Rings then, I hear wizards and elves aren't even real :mad:

CiDeRmAn

Depends on how it's implemented.
Hulk and where he gets the extra mass from changing from Banner really annoys me but I'm happy to let it go to enjoy the movie.
But sh1te like San Andreas really p1ssed me off because it constantly expected the viewer to be an idiot.

CiDeRmAn

Links234 wrote: »

Don't ever watch the Lord of the Rings then, I hear wizards and elves aren't even real :mad:

I watched the first LotR movie with a mate and, at one point, he leaned over and said, upon seeing Legolas, in the real world not all elves have blonde hair....

Oh dear

PARlance

I don't do far fetched fiction in any form. It just doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.
Have been like that since a kid and I haven't regressed.

gramar

Herbie...a car with a mind of it's own? Will ya fcuk off....

mathie

White Chicks.
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fineso.mom

Barnyard - I could accept the talking and walking upright cows and bulls no problem.... But the bulls had udders!!! Come on lads,that's just silly.

Don't watch Spiderman two with theoretical physicists and physicists in general, "guffaw guffaw you can't create a miniature sun guffaw".

kylith

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Depends on how it's implemented.
Hulk and where he gets the extra mass from changing from Banner really annoys me but I'm happy to let it go to enjoy the movie.
But sh1te like San Andreas really p1ssed me off because it constantly expected the viewer to be an idiot.

Yeah, if they say "You know physics? Just forget about physics. Physics is not relevant here" that's ok. But if they're trying to tell you that we should believe something is possible/plausible then they have to credit their audience with some intelligence.

The Master

Harry Potter

A Ginger kid with 2 friends?

Really?

cloud493

mathie wrote: »

White Chicks is an incredible movie
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FYP

murpho999

Why can't people let real life stuff exist in real life and just enjoy pure escapist stuff for what it is.

Complaining about Marvel films for being not being realistic is undermining the whole point of the genre.

mathie

You know the problem with
Hollywood? They make ****.
Unbelievable, unremarkable ****.
I'm not some grungy filmmaker-
wannabee searching for
existentialism through a haze of
bong-smoke. It's easy to pick
apart bad acting, short-sighted
directing, or the purely moronic
stringing together of words many
of the studios term as prose. No,
I'm talking the lack of realism.
Realism. Not a pervasive element
in the modern American cinematic
vision.

Take Dog Day Afternoon for
example. Arguably Pacino's
greatest performance, excepting
The Godfather, Part I, and
Scarface, of course. A
masterpiece of directing, easily
Lumet's best. The acting, the
script, cinematography, all top
notch. But, they didn't push the
envelope. What if in Dog Day,
Sonny really wanted to get away
with it? What if, and here's
where it gets tricky. What if
they'd started killing hostages?
No mercy, no quarter, meet our
demands or the cute blonde in the
bell bottoms gets one in the back
of the head, bam, splatter. What?
Still no bus?

How many innocent victims would
they let get sprayed across the
windows before the city reversed
its policy on hostage situations?
And this was 1976. No C.N.N., no
C.N.B.C., no M.T.V. No Internet.
Fast forward to the present, same
situation. Can you imagine the
feeding frenzy of the modern
media? In hours it would be the
top story from Boston to Budapest.
All caught in 150 millimeter zoom,
computer enhanced, and color
corrected. You would practically
taste the brain matter. Six
hostages die. Ten. Twelve.
Twenty. Thirty. Relentless. One
after another. All over a bus, a
plane, and a couple of million
dollars that were federally
insured.

cloud493

cloud493 wrote: »

FYP

In fairness to White Chicks, it was the movie that convinced Terry Crews that he can essentially be Terry Crews and be accepted (according to a Q&A he did on Reddit), so without that movie, we might never have him as the muscular ball of awesome craziness that he is now.

Grayson

Deleted User wrote: »

In fairness to White Chicks, it was the movie that convinced Terry Crews that he can essentially be Terry Crews and be accepted (according to a Q&A he did on Reddit), so without that movie, we might never have him as the muscular ball of awesome craziness that he is now.

He is ****ing amazing

fryup

OP was watching Taken 2 last night

fizzypish

fryup wrote: »

OP was watching Taken 2 last night

Actually I watched ninja assassins, expected it to be wired, jumpy pants but was pleasantly surprised. Brain kicked in when Ninja main started cleaving through scores of fellow ninjas though. Did the rest of them train in the remedial program?

Taken I have no problem with. I know its impossible to realistically achieve such feats but my bull**** detector just doesn't go off. Can't explain it.

Doctor DooM

Meh, I have no problem suspending my disbelief, but I have a serious issue when something ignores its own rules because they've painted themselves into a corner, or uses technobabble to resolve a story.

Entertainment requires conflict and resolution and speculative fiction doesn't get an out because the writers are too lazy...

check_six

The movie "The Core" really takes the biscuit for suspension of disbelief. It's about the core of the Earth slowing down and a mission being launched for a team of scientists to drill through the planet in a train shaped vehicle thing to set off some nukes to get it going again. Okay, so the premise is a little bonkers to start off with, but it attempts to take it's pseudo-science seriously, and then changes the rules at every twist in the plot. Internal consistency goes out the window and it's just an avalanche of stupid building momentum throughout. Even the most open of minds would be thrown by some of the daftness that occurs.

Sample of action 1: They have to drill maybe 1500-2000 kilometres through the crust and magma, etc. to get to where they want to go. They decide the best place to start drilling is at the bottom of the Marianas Trench in the Pacific Ocean. Why? Because they are at the closest point to the core of the earth if they start there. Closer by about 10 kilometres that is, never mind the several days trip to the middle of the ocean.

Sample of action 2: Everything has gone wrong and something needs to be fixed on the outside of the drilling machine.

"You can't go out there, it's 10,000 degrees. You won't last more than 60 seconds!" (...in your flimsy tinfoil environment suit).

Cut to heroic sacrifice guy toughing it out and lasting maybe 90 seconds before melting, and saving the day, etc.

There is such a current of nonsense built up in this movie that it is impossible to ignore. It some respects the entertainment value of this film is more for calling it on it's inconsistencies than the actual drama itself. That's a kind of victory I suppose!

Reoil

It's called "suspension of disbelief", btw.

fizzypish

Reoil wrote: »

It's called "suspension of disbelief", btw.

I knew what I wrote sounded wrong. Thanks!

check_six

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Meh, I have no problem suspending my disbelief, but I have a serious issue when something ignores its own rules because they've painted themselves into a corner, or uses technobabble to resolve a story.

Entertainment requires conflict and resolution and speculative fiction doesn't get an out because the writers are too lazy...

Cue every Star Trek episode ever...

90% of the episode is whichever crew getting deeper and deeper into big doo-doo. Then with a heroic leap "If I reroute power from the air supply to the forward phasers for an hour or so, we should be able to burn this giant space slug off the hull. Everyone take a big breath!"

kylith

check_six wrote: »

The movie "The Core" really takes the biscuit for suspension of disbelief. It's about the core of the Earth slowing down and a mission being launched for a team of scientists to drill through the planet in a train shaped vehicle thing to set off some nukes to get it going again.

The Core is a special kind of ridiculous, and is almost worth watching just for that.

NachoBusiness

I love it when a plan comes together.

The_Valeyard

2012



You can escape an city destroying earthquake in a limousine.

scamalert

white chicks for the win,even now when watching it it makes me cry from laughter in most scenes-like one in the beginning in the store,or when guy brings back his date to other guys house to meet his dog :pac:
Thing is its comedy so no one cares if its realistic or not,if it makes your time.

As for really F&*8ed crap i would rate Interstellar-biggest piece of crap ever made 3h of total no brainer at all.Guy lives on a farm,word is dying for some reason yet no explanations at all,and then theres underground nasa HQ which take him in as a main savior for the planet,anyway every bit of movie sucked big time in terms of science and any realism-Id say most comic movies have more realism and thought put into them.

Saadyst

scamalert wrote: »

As for really F&*8ed crap i would rate Interstellar-biggest piece of crap ever made 3h of total no brainer at all.Guy lives on a farm,word is dying for some reason yet no explanations at all,and then theres underground nasa HQ which take him in as a main savior for the planet,anyway every bit of movie sucked big time in terms of science and any realism-Id say most comic movies have more realism and thought put into them.

I assume you weren't watching the film or are on a wind up