Laguna 3 check vehicle warning

Interslice

Got the timing belt and oil changed yesterday and thought it would go away after resetting the service due screen but it and the orange spanner remain. Check all exterior bulbs and fluids. Pluuged it into the torque app and a handheld. Both said no fault code and you could read live data. No other warning lights are on. Took it for a quick blast on the motorway but light is still there. its a 1.5 dci 2008. Thinking its the dpf maybe? Egr would put on an engine light? Was told by renault main dealer before when buying oil that it has no dpf??? They're monkees up there so I got the 5 30 just to be safe. Im stumped. Any ideas or is it a case of needing renault diagnostics?

Interslice

Heres pics of the warnings. Checked the central locking there too and all is well. Spanner is always on, cycle the menus you get thr very vague warning, Check vehicle!...

gavman1

Interslice wrote: »

Heres pics of the warnings. Checked the central locking there too and all is well. Spanner is always on, cycle the menus you get thr very vague warning, Check vehicle!...

Its very likely that you will never get this fully sorted im afraid.these cars are absalute money pits.in fact I was offered a 2007 model just before xmass last for €1300 and I was very happy to turn it down.i mean ye know disrespect but if ye value your sanity get shut of it before it really starts to bite ye.the guy that was selling that one had just spent over 2k repairing problems like yours and others (all electrical) and every single one still present when he sold it.

Interslice

gavman1 wrote: »

Its very likely that you will never get this fully sorted im afraid.these cars are absalute money pits.in fact I was offered a 2007 model just before xmass last for €1300 and I was very happy to turn it down.i mean ye know disrespect but if ye value your sanity get shut of it before it really starts to bite ye.the guy that was selling that one had just spent over 2k repairing problems like yours and others (all electrical) and every single one still present when he sold it.

I didn't think they were that bad . Cars driving perfect, everything works... Stuck a drop of dipetane into it to see if that does anything to the light. Wont get too worried yet! Think it might be the dpf. Thinking the dpf's not part of the engine so doesn't throw an engine light where maybe the EGR would???

Bpmull

gavman1 wrote: »

Its very likely that you will never get this fully sorted im afraid.these cars are absalute money pits.in fact I was offered a 2007 model just before xmass last for €1300 and I was very happy to turn it down.i mean ye know disrespect but if ye value your sanity get shut of it before it really starts to bite ye.the guy that was selling that one had just spent over 2k repairing problems like yours and others (all electrical) and every single one still present when he sold it.

That's completely irrelevant to this car infairness a 2007 was the OLD MODEL which were not very reliable I'll admit this is new model completely different same with the Megane the newer current model renaults are not the same in terms of reliabilty the light is on for a reason.

Anyway I didn't think it would run great if it was an egr. It's hardly something stupid like water in the fuel filter as that can cause a light on them. May be worth getting it scanned in renault see if it shows up for them. You definitely have the service reminder reset properly maybe do it again. Or disconnect the battery for 5 minutes.

ltdslipdiff

No DPF in the Laguna III until 2010 so rule that out ! There was a recall on the big intercooler pipe that goes up over the top of the engine, make sure that has been done (FOC).
Its strange that its happened after the service, I wonder is the belt off by a tooth? Or perhaps there is a sensor left unplugged somewhere, usually there is more info on the message. I'd agree with the unplugging of battery for now.... Boost pressure sensors can give bother too. Fear not OP they are a great car ! It will be an easy fix wait and see.

Interslice

Bpmull wrote: »

That's completely irrelevant to this car infairness a 2007 was the OLD MODEL which were not very reliable I'll admit this is new model completely different same with the Megane the newer current model renaults are not the same in terms of reliabilty the light is on for a reason.

Anyway I didn't think it would run great if it was an egr. It's hardly something stupid like water in the fuel filter as that can cause a light on them. May be worth getting it scanned in renault see if it shows up for them. You definitely have the service reminder reset properly maybe do it again. Or disconnect the battery for 5 minutes.

Cheers BP, forgot '07 was the older one!

Reset the warning twice ye. Show up now now as 10k km/13months. Only changed the fuel filter about 10k km ago so hardly that. No sensor in it either. Will try your battery suggestion when I'm home at the weekend, sounds like a good call fingers crossed. The only difference I've noticed since the warning is a slight droan as the turbo spools that sounds like it's from the exhaust that I never noticed before. Thats why i'm thinking dpf or egr. Swapped myself from a diesel to a petrol since the light came on so could be just because of that. That primera was a much noisier machine! Think JCB flat out across the site :pac:.
Not sure this drone is even worth mentioning. There seem to be alot less drone, across a shorter rev band, since the oil and filter was changed. The timing belt was done also and I've had it a couple of Italian tunes so could be that. Tried to get it to go to cork this week to give it a good blast with weight in it but he wanted the car.

There's a good renault independant about a half hour away that does a good bit of work for them so I'll take it up to him in a week or two if it doesn't clear itself. Might look into getting diagnostics on the go for it myself either. Hate not being able to fix or at least diagnose a fault or warning on a car. Thought it would be all OBDII compatible but normal code readers musn't have full access to the can-bus system. Saying that the handheld my mate has in work is fairly old. It only had a laguna II option on it.

ltdslipdiff

I may have sorted the problem OP, if the service reminder is reset properly it should be 30,000klm/12 month service interval ! (and in some cases 30,000 klm/24 month which is ludicrous!)

So it needs to be plugged in to the diagnostic tool and the Service Interval changed to the above. The interval numbers its showing are completely wrong.

Interslice

ltdslipdiff wrote: »

No DPF in the Laguna III until 2010 so rule that out ! There was a recall on the big intercooler pipe that goes up over the top of the engine, make sure that has been done (FOC).
Its strange that its happened after the service, I wonder is the belt off by a tooth? Or perhaps there is a sensor left unplugged somewhere, usually there is more info on the message. I'd agree with the unplugging of battery for now.... Boost pressure sensors can give bother too. Fear not OP they are a great car ! It will be an easy fix wait and see.

Sweet, no DPF is a relief. The way the aul lad drives it would definitley be blocked by now! What happens the pipe, please don't say it **** metal into the intake? Will look into that!Is it that stainless one? Didn't have time to do the belt on this myself so don't know the engine very well. An actual mechanic done the belts and service . He said he thought he seen a dpf looking thing but wasn't sure. The light was on before the service/belt change and the car is better to drive since so I doubt it.

ltdslipdiff

The pipe splits at the silicone part which throws up a Check Injection message and car goes in to limp mode.. My money is on the Service Interval reminder needing to be re-adjusted.

ltdslipdiff

Oh and there is an exhaust catalyst just downstream of the turbo, but not a DPF!

Interslice

ltdslipdiff wrote: »

I may have sorted the problem OP, if the service reminder is reset properly it should be 30,000klm/12 month service interval ! (and in some cases 30,000 klm/24 month which is ludicrous!)

So it needs to be plugged in to the diagnostic tool and the Service Interval changed to the above. The interval numbers its showing are completely wrong.

Right, in my head the interval was perfect! Was wondering about that. With VW's you get a similarfixed 12k km/1year or, a variable 24k km/2 year max interval or some sort of numbers like that. The computer reduces the variable as it sees fit. It also reset to 10k/13months the last time I serviced it. This warning light only came on a year later around the time that ran out and the service due came up. That's why I though they were related and would go out together.

I'm using 5w30 elf rather than 5w40 which is the recomended for a non dpf. I wonder is that messing with the oil condition monitor gizmos which i think it has.

ltdslipdiff

You're bang on it does have the Oil Control System which monitors the oil for quality but I still think its an incorrect interval setting

Interslice

ltdslipdiff wrote: »

You're bang on it does have the Oil Control System which monitors the oil for quality but I still think its an incorrect interval setting

Hopefully something handy like that. Cheers for the info!

gavman1

Bpmull wrote: »

That's completely irrelevant to this car infairness a 2007 was the OLD MODEL which were not very reliable I'll admit this is new model completely different same with the Megane the newer current model renaults are not the same in terms of reliabilty the light is on for a reason.

Anyway I didn't think it would run great if it was an egr. It's hardly something stupid like water in the fuel filter as that can cause a light on them. May be worth getting it scanned in renault see if it shows up for them. You definitely have the service reminder reset properly maybe do it again. Or disconnect the battery for 5 minutes.

Renault are rubbish at making cars fact!how do ye think nissan went from being one of the best to being one of the worst, they started using renault parts.it destroyed there reputation in a very short time.it always amazes me how people will stick by a brand and say its great and then go on to list of known problems with that brand.the mark 1 leguna was the last renault that ye could call reliable.as for the latest models, I'd bet they will be scrap yard queens just like there predecessors.oh and I can assure ye you will be on first name terms with your local stealership cos most machanics dont want to know about them.

colm_mcm

gavman1, as you're being of no help to the OP, please don't post in this thread.