chalara fraxinea costs

fergus1001

Hi I'm just wondering what rate a digger should be able to remove trees from an affected site at, a stand belonging to me has been affected by the disease and I have been notified by the forest service, I was going to do up the sanitation plan and carry out the work myself

Any ideas ?

tabby aspreme

Sorry to hear about the trees, could you cut them at the ground and burn the trunks and branches, just leaving the roots to dig up and bury, or do you have to bury the whole lot, when were they planted

fergus1001

tabby aspreme wrote:

Sorry to hear about the trees, could you cut them at the ground and burn the trunks and branches, just leaving the roots to dig up and bury, or do you have to bury the whole lot, when were they planted

The trees are 7 years old at this stage so there not unwieldy yet, they whole tree and root and any visible leaf litter has to be buried on site

tabby aspreme

To bury all the leaf litter you would need to turn every bit of the ground over, are your trees showing signs of Chalara or are they being taken out as a precaution due to other trees from that provenance being infected , it must be a right sickner taking them out having minded them since 2008

fergus1001

It is a sickener alright but it could be worse because I just put in one hectare for use as firewood for myself, the rest is GPC3 (10% diverse conifer), I'm probably going to have it done by one of the companies instead of doing it myself, insurance costs make it unreasonable to do it myself

accidental forester

Was the ash plantation grant aided originally? If so, there are grants for remediation. There are two brochures covering the programs.

I can't post a URL so google "Reconstitution Scheme Chalara Ash Dieback" and look for the dept of agriculture or teagasc items.

Good luck.

fergus1001

accidental forester wrote:

Was the ash plantation grant aided originally? If so, there are grants for remediation. There are two brochures covering the programs.

Yes it was I'm a forester myself so ill probably end up doing it myself (getting prof indemnity and register with department), I am having trouble getting the affor companies to touch it due to the fact that they are flat out planting and it's only 1 ha in size (part of a bigger plantation)

tabby aspreme

Is there particular insurance for the ash sanitation/ reconstitution, or is it professional indemnity for general forestry work you need

fergus1001

tabby aspreme wrote:

Is there particular insurance for the ash sanitation/ reconstitution, or is it professional indemnity for general forestry work you need

Just professional indemnity for general forestry work, got a quote for 329 euro is that right ? Seems very reasonable

Schadenfreudia

The was a seminar in Dundalk about a year ago on this and the British view is that 90% of our ash is doomed.

In England they are letting the disease take its course and hoping some small proportion of the ash population has resistance.

The Irish "scorched ash" policy ensures that if there are resistant trees they will be felled and burned.

Pity that the Forest Service/Dept of Ag were asleep at the wheel when the ash of Scandinavia, Poland and northern mainland Europe were being wiped out between the late 1990s and 2012 - and they continued to allow the import of Dutch and other ash plants to supply stock for the Forest Service grant-aided ash planting programme!

The Irish ash catastrophe was caused by those imports.

fergus1001

Forest service have given us till December to sanitise the site so that's a whole summer of spores being spread !

As it happens I have been employed by the same company doing the removals so I will probably end up heading it up myself now

tabby aspreme

fergus1001 wrote: »

Forest service have given us till December to sanitise the site so that's a whole summer of spores being spread !

As it happens I have been employed by the same company doing the removals so I will probably end up heading it up myself now

I'm not surprised by anything the Forestry Service do anymore.
The weather over the last few weeks would be ideal for spore development, and spreading. Good to hear you got a job so quickly after graduating.
Are your trees showing signs of infection or are they part of a consignment of imports which are infected in other plantations

Schadenfreudia

fergus1001 wrote: »

Forest service have given us till December to sanitise the site so that's a whole summer of spores being spread !

As it happens I have been employed by the same company doing the removals so I will probably end up heading it up myself now

Congrats!

fergus1001

tabby aspreme wrote:

I'm not surprised by anything the Forestry Service do anymore. The weather over the last few weeks would be ideal for spore development, and spreading. Good to hear you got a job so quickly after graduating. Are your trees showing signs of infection or are they part of a consignment of imports which are infected in other plantations

They have visible signs of infection so they are definitely spreading the disease right now

I think all sites with the affected imports have been removed at this stage (or at least I hope they do)

fergus1001

Schadenfreudia wrote:

Congrats!

Thanks it's low enough on the pay scale though but sure you can't value experience I suppose !

tabby aspreme

Fergus do you know the provenance of the trees , were they Dutch or Danish

fergus1001

tabby aspreme wrote:

Fergus do you know the provenance of the trees , were they Dutch or Danish

I don't know as of now but now that I will be inside the tent pissing out :pac: I will investigate it, but from working as a contractor for the company I know they use nonesohardy for all their plants

I was under the impression that the forest service had all the effected batches removed already, this plantation was established in 2006

Schadenfreudia

Coillte have a huge seed plant/store and I think (?) their seeds are nearly all sourced in Ireland.

Up to recently they supplied much of the forest trees - seeds and seedlings - to the trade in Ireland.

fergus1001

Schadenfreudia wrote:

Up to recently they supplied much of the forest trees - seeds and seedlings - to the trade in Ireland.

I was talking to a man that worked in there and they are always short and end up buying in trees