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World war Z2 - yep that's not a typo

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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I don't expect much. The first one was a cash in on the zombie craze, it threw every zombie meme at the screen and hoped for the best. I think the zombie craze has past for the most part so all they've got left os the die hards and they're the ones that didn't like it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭identer


    Actually did enjoy the first one. Never liked the way the wife and kids were treated, but you know it just a movie so no over thinking.
    The 2 is mostlike going to be him getting infected and still be able to save the world somehow...just my silly two penny.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭RiderOnTheStorm


    Watched WWZ again recently , and its not as bad as I remember. Once you get over the fact that its based on 2 pages in the book, its not a bad Z movie in its own right (ok, there is very little new in it, but I did like that it show the Z Apoc from the point of view that its not just a few loners against the hordes, but that all of civilization was under pressure & loosing).

    Then again, the list of sequels that are as good as the orig (when the orig was good) is very small.

    Then again (x2!) the orig in this case was not great, so there might be a good chance that the sequel is good / better !!

    I will reserve judgement until I see the film (trailers are very misleading!). ..... And any half-decent Z film is a GOOD film !!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Here's the thing - and I'm sure I won't do myself any favours here - but, World War Z was a good Zombie movie. Don't get me wrong - World War Z is my favourite zombie book and I have attended a talk given by Max Brooks and got my copy signed by him, but I was able to separate the book from the movie. The first half - particularly the very opening and the whole sequence in Israel, was absolutely glorious bigscreen action.

    My assumption is that because it did prove to be a financial success, then they'll have a much bigger budget. Can you imagine their doing Battle of Yonkers and the Battle of Hope with a budget that big?


  • Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I'm going to watch it again with fresh eyes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭DakotaYoda


    Yer eyes would need some freshening there kid... they's dirty!
    Honestly - if the movie was named something else it would have been a decent big-budget zombie movie, albeit loaded with "plot convenience theater"... I love the book too much to give the movie much credit. I think they used 3-4 names from the book and that was it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭sabhail


    Thought film was quite good... esp the Israel bit, the opening and the plane...

    book is fantastic though...


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    The first half - particularly the very opening and the whole sequence in Israel, was absolutely glorious bigscreen action.
    Set pieces don't do it for me anymore. If a film hands me a box with a big special effects extravaganza film inside and says the brown mess on the bottom is the plot then I'm not interested. To much of today's film and TV is focused on style and showing cool/popular scenes.

    I now pretty much hate hollywood for showing people trying to survive the apocalypse while still having perfectly styled hair, designer clothes and the ability to turn into a spec ops just because someone hands them a gun. I'm bored of it. I want a well thought out story at this stage, I've put up with the stylised steam punk porn for long enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭TwoGallants


    I thought the Israel bit was truly awful! I mean, the zombies could just run over themselves and create magic towers?? Sorry, but its just logically impossible. Also, how did like 50 million zombies suddenly reach the walls like 5 minutes before without any of the best trained soldiers in the world noticing? And why were they all singing their kumbaya arabs and jews love each other blablabla when there was like a trillion zombies outside? I'm sorry, there was some decent aspects to the film but a lot of it was total tosh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    As far as zombie movies go wwz is actually really up there with the best, it's certainly had a way better budget than most ( and I'm a fan of b movies).

    I also think it would have been better with a different name but the name gave it the budget and the cast, it's just the way of things.

    That said , some bits ofthe story were truly idiotic, but the same can be said of a lot of this genres movies.

    Also, I know people revere max brooks, but, The books are only average at best. It was his detailed explanation of solanum that was his big win and earned him his place in zombie lore. Mira grants Kellis-amberlee was better imho but she got there second, and should have hired a better editor...


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Set pieces don't do it for me anymore. If a film hands me a box with a big special effects extravaganza film inside and says the brown mess on the bottom is the plot then I'm not interested. To much of today's film and TV is focused on style and showing cool/popular scenes.

    I now pretty much hate hollywood for showing people trying to survive the apocalypse while still having perfectly styled hair, designer clothes and the ability to turn into a spec ops just because someone hands them a gun. I'm bored of it. I want a well thought out story at this stage, I've put up with the stylised steam punk porn for long enough.

    There's an element of truth to all that though... If we had to "leg it" from Zombies in the house I'm pretty sure the "Mrs" would grab a hair straightener on the way out.......


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I thought the Israel bit was truly awful! I mean, the zombies could just run over themselves and create magic towers?? Sorry, but its just logically impossible. Also, how did like 50 million zombies suddenly reach the walls like 5 minutes before without any of the best trained soldiers in the world noticing? And why were they all singing their kumbaya arabs and jews love each other blablabla when there was like a trillion zombies outside? I'm sorry, there was some decent aspects to the film but a lot of it was total tosh.

    Ive always thought Zombies building Magical Towers was illogical allright....:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    I have to say the tower of zombies was one of my favorite bits!, It certainly wouldn't work for shamblers but sprinters ( to use ZA Rechts terms) would literally climb up over each other to reach a meal. I thought it was a great scene of the hoards relentlessness to get into Jerusalem and showed that, no matter how high you build your walls, you cant escape!!

    My suspicion is that this tower came from the many online discussions with regards to the Shime tower in Japan and how many zombies it would take to pile on top of each other to breach it.

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have to say the tower of zombies was one of my favorite bits!, It certainly wouldn't work for shamblers but sprinters ( to use ZA Rechts terms) would literally climb up over each other to reach a meal. I thought it was a great scene of the hoards relentlessness to get into Jerusalem and showed that, no matter how high you build your walls, you cant escape!!

    My suspicion is that this tower came from the many online discussions with regards to the Shime tower in Japan and how many zombies it would take to pile on top of each other to breach it.

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    Wonder could I get planning permission for one of those;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,400 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Wasn't it decided pretty quickly after the initial test screenings to make it a trilogy so they could use a lot of the footage that got cut?
    identer wrote: »
    Never liked the way the wife and kids were treated, but you know it just a movie so no over thinking.

    You would have liked the original version even less, then, as Karin
    essentially ends up being Matthew Fox's chattel, because Gerry is assumed dead and she's basically bartering her body for better treatment in the refugee camp she ends up in. Matthew Fox being one of the helicopter pilots that rescued them from the roof in Jersey.
    Test audiences reacted so badly to that scenario that they cut that storyline and re-wrote.
    Can you imagine their doing Battle of Yonkers and the Battle of Hope with a budget that big?

    They recorded loads of footage of the Battle of Red Square, which was to be the climax of the film, but essentially the final third of it was re-written and re-shot due to test audience reaction so most of it ended up on the cutting-room floor. We see a tiny bit of it during Gerry's voiceover at the end describing how the tables turned once the vaccination was distributed. Interestingly, if the film had been released as originally written and shot, we would have seen use of Lobos in a big way.

    I'm one of the few people who likes both the book and the film, in very different ways and for very different reasons. Like BAG, I think the film is a decent zombie flick in its own right and its biggest mistake was p*ssing off the Brooks purists. I'll certainly be going to see the next one when the time comes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,733 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    ye know if they did shoot all those scenes with the intent to make a trilogy, there's a reasonable chance that the first film was a precursor to the actual book, even by calling it WWZ2 they could easily use that footage and flashback the hell out of it with interviews with various book characters and still have cannon to the book and reclaim some of the book purists with the sequel/s

    Sounds convoluted and tacky but it could work! :D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I thought the Israel bit was truly awful! I mean, the zombies could just run over themselves and create magic towers?? Sorry, but its just logically impossible. Also, how did like 50 million zombies suddenly reach the walls like 5 minutes before without any of the best trained soldiers in the world noticing? And why were they all singing their kumbaya arabs and jews love each other blablabla when there was like a trillion zombies outside? I'm sorry, there was some decent aspects to the film but a lot of it was total tosh.

    Sure, the 5 million zombies sneaking up was something that needed taken at face value, because it was quite impossible for nobody to notice, especially with helicopters zooming about.

    But ... it could possibly happen for zombies to pile up like that and climb each other. The book describes the Battle of Hope and zombies climbing up on top of fallen ones, creating a mound that was X feet high (can't remember how tall). It's a similar thing, but just tenfold.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭fizzypish


    Read the book last weekend. I enjoyed WWZ but like an older post said, if they used more than 2 pages of the book, it could have been great. The whole south Africa plan was pretty interesting and would have made for some interesting scenes. I don't think it would be possible to follow more story lines than 3 in a movie like this without descending into total confusion. What could be cool would be if they took each character interview from the book and made a 40 min per show TV series. That'd be diverse enough from TWD due to the fact that your getting a global over view. Favorite story from the book:
    Chinese nuclear sub
    Story that stopped me falling asleep for 15 minutes:
    The whole population of Paris trapped underground with Z's or the deep sea divers


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭DakotaYoda


    Agree wholeheartedly on the mini-series idea or something like that where it focused on one person's story and the moved on to another part of the world for what happened... so many great ideas in that book.


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