Letting Everybody Keep a Few Quid including Public Expenditure

The Reader of Dictionaries

If the Civil Service IT Departments installed Open Office parallel to MS Office and encouraged all the student population of Ireland to install open office it would reap 10's or perhaps a hundred million in financial rewards just like the German Civil Service created. Businesses would improve if they encouraged each other to install open office.
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A linux operating system like ubuntu is complete and free. It is used by supercomputers and android. (ubuntu means humanity to others)

Firefox web browser is also free.
AVG Anti Virus is also free.
Google sketch up works with ubuntu with wine


I will try these out on my New Laptop. It saves people money and the social responsibility is far better. The German Civil Service are gloating about their conversion to open source.

jimmycrackcorm

Sounds fantastic except.....

No business will depend on software without support. Which means that you still have to pay. In my last company we developed software to run on both Linux and Windows server. Because it was enterprise software it meant having to pay for annual Red Hat support with cost more than the Microsoft licensing.

In volume Microsoft licensing is also very cheap that is not worth replacing with open source equivalents.

Eric Cartman

free software is 'free' because its not great.

as the above poster said , enterprises need support.

Also the level of computer literacy in the civil service is low to say the least, they can barely use windows , linux would be a step too far for all of them and might actually cause a dispute with unions.

glacial_pace71

Many public service bodies use open-source software for certain applications.

The problem is the overall cost of ownership and also the accountability, e.g. you get a licensed deal with Microsoft and you can then pick up the phone to their call centre in India rather than spending hours on an online forum arguing with some surfer dude who thinks you're insufficiently cool to warrant his help with your Ubuntu installation.

Microsoft have been very sharp on the licensing issue. Embrace, extend, eliminate. Works every time.

On the server side though I can see Unix/Linux still hold its own against some of the Microsoft products but it's on the client side that Open Source products are trying to penetrate, i.e. to get the thousands of users of Office rather than the dozens of IT personnel in any public service body.

andrew

I used Openoffice throughout college, and use Microsoft office at work. There is no way in hell Openoffice is anywhere as good as Microsoft office, with their version of excel being particularly bad. It is nowhere near ready to be rolled out accorss big organisations, and I pity the German Civil Servants who've been forced to use it.

Ubuntu + Office on Wine would be good though, were it not for the fact that you'd have to retrain literally everyone, and Civil Servants are exactly known for their tech savvy-ness.

The Reader of Dictionaries

Thought the feedback was practical but groupthinkingly pro micro soft and pro imports.
Microsoft Navision Enterprise System is a nightmare for most workers. Where is Google or EMC?
I hear mentioned Opensource applications are complete and would innovate more with every installation.
There are also less viruses and attacks on Opensource software.
Cost is important.
Its trustworthy enough to be used on Traffic Lights and Distributed Super Computer Systems.

I'm going to install Opensource software as Microsoft Stuff is a 3 year occurant expenditure.

I think Embrace, Extend, Eliminate sounds like a very hostile strategy and would have a negative cultural effect. I also think that the German Civil Service functions amazingly, what a tight ship.

Are there any other practicalities for letting everyone keep a few quid including public expenditure?

Other ideas are

+ A No to the Transatlanic Trade and Investment Partnership because it would weaken the economy and make tax more difficult to collect. It would also allow elite legal corporate teams bring tribunals against the state for profit motive in case of unfavourable treatment. American Multinationals would have no need for a base here either. Lets face it big trade deals bring alot of Chaos.
+ No more SPV's Off Balance Sheet Vehicles
+ a mini MPV (the only choice) instead of a SUV.
+ Transport Trawler with a private Bus Service and others
+ Investing in distressed assets
+ No Regulatory Capture e.g Tom Parlon and perhaps thousands of others in Ireland. The biggest problem on the Planet.
+ Turn Nama into a longterm sovereign wealth fund as was envisaged at the start.
+ A properly Managed State Sovereign Wealth Fund/Strategy Group
+ Not letting state pension funds sell everything when poised to go up 5 fold per bluechip share.
+ The powers that be Not selling houses to foreign funds at subsidised rock bottom prices
+ A non Irish Life Pension because their managers don't perform well ever.
+ A Southerly Facing Photo Voltaic Amorphous Silicone solar roof with non toxic insulation at back of panels at the correct angle installed without longterm leaky frames and with flashing and one for hot water plus windows for light on new builds with a battery and rainwater harvester installed under the front.
+ An Apple Inc. Online Bank Service with lower management fees/interest rates due to tech and 0.25 or negative interest rates attainable by big orgs like Apple Inc and investment funds can too.
+ Healthy food in a lunch box and non leaching water bottle possibly with a carbon filter with a flask for the winter with spring water
+ Non Residually redundant goods and services i.e no goods and services that are made to break and that are easily serviceable
+ Someone could set up an English Speaking support service for open source software that would probably be taken over. Ye would make money. Red Hat, Suisse and loads of open office individual users with google spreadsheets and statistical formulai that are superior to excel.
+ A consistent public urban wireless router access system to enable free local wifi identifiable roaming mobile usage without alot of electromagnetic radiation. This would reduce the costs and improve health.
+ More common sense, tacit knowledge and modern/intelligent/grounded thinking/decision making.
+ An end to all this non neutral war facilitation and posturing with Peaceful Game Theory

What do ye think?

glacial_pace71

Well if the saving a few quid extends to a broad range of issues of that nature then why not add something about accessibility to public data? For example Dublin City Council's traffic info has helped support some viable apps, but even odd stuff - like the volume and location of heavy grease waste - provides an opportunities for micro-businesses to monetize the data (or even the actual material that's the subject of the data set).

The Reader of Dictionaries

We knew about the Portugal, maybe Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain Banking and Housing scam since 1993 and tried to stop it. We learnt from a Greek Student in Presentation College Cork City Centre. George Kapadoplus or something, he is 33 now. He told everyone and said We would all be rich, but the children will be poor all the Children would be poor. He said we had to stop it. It was overheard in a posh sports club in Greece by youngsters. This is possible a Greecian Strategy. Its horrible to see cashflow corrupt people even teachers, an examiner, a government TD, Retired Garda Síochána Sergent/PLC Lecturer and the force. I also told a European Court of Auditors Auditor with a ID plastic card on a Shannon to Charleoi flight in 2001. He said leave it with him he would stop it. He obviously served the eu commission. SUE. I hope no more construction folk or banking behemoths or any one else commit suicide over this.

+What about Suburban and Provincial Libraries that loan out DIY Tools too and what else?
+What about reading all the new fast moving Accounting Rules by the IASB to see how vulnerable we already are. No to TTIP please.

What do ye think?

The Reader of Dictionaries

Haigh Glacial Pace: The Locations of Homogenous Inert Green Waste Too for the New Anerobic Digester in Little Island being built by Mr Burke and his Workers is important. Enough Electricity to power 7200 homes. It also helps overcome the massive industrial waste problem. However there could be a foreign bacteria problem and also the 2.5 soccer pitch size bio digester would need to be in compartmentalised. I read that Small Biodigesters are more effective at digesting and generating electricity and should be throughout the provinces. I wonder what will happen to the industrial waste product? Hopefully the sites will be managed properly. No new Incinerators because Dublin is a Metropolis with poor air quality and incinerators release dioxins. There are batteries and CFL lightbulbs and soon LED Lightbulbs containing noteable quantities of Mercury being burnt in the Poolbeg Incinerator. Tailored to Factory Emmission Fractured Activated Carbon Coconut is between US$1000 per tonne to US$4500 FOB China and would fill Atmospheric Scrubbers in Little Islands' Factories Cork Harbour Basin Area to reduce Carinogens. One teaspoon of fractured activated carbon has the area of .33 of a soccerpitch. I can make atmospheric scrubbers just with local travel expenditure. The materials are really cheap why the hesitation? Money is Important and so is health. Wind turbines are gushers. Always watch cash and lodge it fast. Don't spend it to readily. Invest in a independently indentifiable crash and summit. Aminex is Enron so sell at 9 cent. The Tesco Share Price has been directly horizontal for 8 years i.e. corrupt. Lets talk about money.

The Reader of Dictionaries

Online Rational Budgeting with imports costed per second perhaps.

Red Alert

There are possibly savings to be made from removing MS Server platforms rather than desktop computers: for web app hosting for example it's likely that a Java/Spring MVC setup on Linux would be preferential to a MS C#/ASP solution on an isolated cost basis. But this would need to be done en masse for it to have appreciable impact.