Golf club advice

Rock77

Any advice on which irons to buy? I bought a set of masters irons to start off about 2 years ago. They were only €100 new. Graphite shafts. My golf swing is not good and if I had a handicap it would be 28! I know I need to work on my swing and new irons won't magically fix my game! Was thinking maybe Wilson deep red irons? Basically I need the most forgiving irons. Any tips??

First Up

Rock77 wrote: »

Any advice on which irons to buy? I bought a set of masters irons to start off about 2 years ago. They were only €100 new. Graphite shafts. My golf swing is not good and if I had a handicap it would be 28! I know I need to work on my swing and new irons won't magically fix my game! Was thinking maybe Wilson deep red irons? Basically I need the most forgiving irons. Any tips??

If you are serious about getting better, get fitted. Asking which brand is meaningless as all brands are available in different specifications. Get someone who knows what they are doing to assess your swing and tell you what they suggest - and why. Any of the proper golf shops will do it, or go to a specialist fitter like Fore Golf.

But before that, invest in a few lessons.

mike12

This is always a tough one if u get fitted with a bad swing you may need new irons again if you improve it. Best to get lessons to improve first and the pro will tell you if they are crap or not.

benny79

or read a few online reviews and bit up a decent second hand set on adverts then get lessons & when you improve go get fitted for a decent set.

won't happen overnight but wont cost a fortune either win, win..

benny79

"pick" (sorry)

eoghan104

I have a set of clubs that would be perfect for you if you are interested.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95474856&postcount=2552

There is no point going out spending a fortune on new ones until you know you are interested. Any second hand set for a couple of years will do you.

Newoven

Tempting as it is to buy good clubs to improve your game, and as one who has struggled for years to "master" the game, I say spend half as much money on lessons and practice as you'll get a lot more improvement from a better technique than the small technological advantages in different clubs. I've given in to the "throw money at it" temptation a couple of times but the expensive clubs are no better for me than the donated driver and €20 lob wedge I also use.

That said a good friend of mine has a set of shrink-wrapped Nike blades in his attic he bought in a sale that he's holding until his game reaches the level where he can take full advantage of them. 8 years and counting.....

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Newoven wrote: »

Tempting as it is to buy good clubs to improve your game, and as one who has struggled for years to "master" the game, I say spend half as much money on lessons and practice as you'll get a lot more improvement from a better technique than the small technological advantages in different clubs. I've given in to the "throw money at it" temptation a couple of times but the expensive clubs are no better for me than the donated driver and €20 lob wedge I also use.

That said a good friend of mine has a set of shrink-wrapped Nike blades in his attic he bought in a sale that he's holding until his game reaches the level where he can take full advantage of them. 8 years and counting.....

Exactly right to work on improving the indian before improving the arrows. But buying any clubs without ensuring they are at least broadly right for you is a waste.

d2ww

First Up wrote: »

Exactly right to work on improving the indian before improving the arrows. But buying any clubs without ensuring they are at least broadly right for you is a waste.

Unless the OP is 4' nothing or 6'6", fitting is a waste. I think you're assuming that the OP has a consistent golf swing, but at 28 hcp, he simply doesn't, he's got at least half a dozen swings!
There's his good swing, his slice swing, his hook swing, his hitting it fat/thin swings, his "did you guys see where that went?" swing.
Newoven hit the nail on the head, It's not the arrows, it's the indian. So, get some lessons

Uncle Ben

d2ww wrote: »

Unless the OP is 4' nothing or 6'6", fitting is a waste. I think you're assuming that the OP has a consistent golf swing, but at 28 hcp, he simply doesn't, he's got at least half a dozen swings!
There's his good swing, his slice swing, his hook swing, his hitting it fat/thin swings, his "did you guys see where that went?" swing.
Newoven hit the nail on the head, It's not the arrows, it's the indian. So, get some lessons

Haha. Great post. That's me!
How I love this game.

Rock77

Its not the arrows its the indian!! I agree! I haven't got fitted because I don't hav a consistent swing. I've signed up for a short and long game clinic at Carton House so lookin forward to that. My irons are really cheap and was just wondering if it would be worth upgrading before i start the lessons.I was gona maybe trade them in and spend about €250 on the Wilson irons.

benny79

you will get a way better set on adverts second hand for that trust me & don't buy into the game improvement irons I fell for these and am only starting to be more consistent after I upgraded to a descent set for better players/low hcer's and im of 22! so wasted a lot of time, its only a marketing ploy!

just pick a good second hand set you like the look off & got good reviews(ul get this on the web, todays golfer is a good site)

unattendedbag

Wilsons are usually marketed for beginners, same as Dunlop clubs in sports direct. Get a second hand set of pings, mizuno, taylormade or whatever mainstream brand is out there and take a few lessons with them. Then get plenty of practice on the course with them. Big difference in hitting regular shots from fairway than mats on a range.

Senna

Plenty of good sets on adverts.ie for between €150-€200. I would go with irons with a bigger head, the more forgiveness the better at your stage. I play with game improving irons and I wouldn't change, unless your practicing and playing a couple of times a week, then like me, you need all help you can get.
If you find a particular set and want advice, post it here.

jcon1913

Senna wrote: »

Plenty of good sets on adverts.ie for between €150-€200. I would go with irons with a bigger head, the more forgiveness the better at your stage. I play with game improving irons and I wouldn't change, unless your practicing and playing a couple of times a week, then like me, you need all help you can get.
If you find a particular set and want advice, post it here.

Try to get cavity back irons the other type of irons called blades are way more unstable when hitting a ball.

neckedit

unattendedbag wrote:

Wilsons are usually marketed for beginners, same as Dunlop clubs in sports direct. Get a second hand set of pings, mizuno, taylormade or whatever mainstream brand is out there and take a few lessons with them. Then get plenty of practice on the course with them. Big difference in hitting regular shots from fairway than mats on a range.

Wilson are definitely not Marketed towards beginers, the golfing publics perception maybe this.
They have a wide range from cheap n cheerful Prostaff range all the way through to the Wilson Staff range which include D200, C100, M3 Forged, FG V4 Forged and the classic FG Tour 100's. A very varied and in depth range of irons to rival any of the Bigger Marketed Brands.

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benny79 wrote: »

you will get a way better set on adverts second hand for that trust me & don't buy into the game improvement irons I fell for these and am only starting to be more consistent after I upgraded to a descent set for better players/low hcer's and im of 22! so wasted a lot of time, its only a marketing ploy!

just pick a good second hand set you like the look off & got good reviews(ul get this on the web, todays golfer is a good site)

What does "like the look of" mean? This is nonsense. What about flex, kick point (or "bend profile"), lie and loft? These are variables in every make of club and are influenced by things like swing speed, height etc than can be assessed in five minutes and will ensure that the clubs are at least in the correct general area.

If you don't want to get fitted yet, at least talk to someone in a proper golf shop. Buying something you "like the look of" or that gets "good reviews" is about the most useless advice anyone could give you.

benny79

Would you give over I know loads of lads who bought clubs by feel & look (sits well on the eye) and some are single figure to mid hcer's! How will you test all the things you suggest if your buying second hand of someone on adverts?

Senna

Far too much emphasise on fitting for someone who hasn't got a consistance swing (I'm off 12 and don't have a consistance swing) get a set of irons that are designed for your abilities I.e forgiving cavities. Get the lessons and change your irons as you improve.

ShivasIrons

Senna wrote: »

Far too much emphasise on fitting for someone who hasn't got a consistance swing (I'm off 12 and don't have a consistance swing) get a set of irons that are designed for your abilities I.e forgiving cavities. Get the lessons and change your irons as you improve.

I'm curious what part of your swing is inconsistent? Is it speed or path or face angle or attack angle or impact on the face?

Rock77

ShivasIrons wrote: »

I'm curious what part of your swing is inconsistent? Is it speed or path or face angle or attack angle or impact on the face?

Well I suppose my swing is consistent. But there is something fundamentally wrong. I can see what's wrong when I'm watching myself on video but can't figure it out when I'm doing it! I hit driver only about 220 yards max. I hit 9 iron 100 yards and my longest iron, which is 5 goes 140. I suppose I'm wondering will new clubs add a few yards. A few short game lessons will seriously help too. I took 5 lessons with 2 different coaches. Felt like I hit balls for 30 mins and that's it!

Uncle Ben

Rock77 wrote: »

Well I suppose my swing is consistent. But there is something fundamentally wrong. I can see what's wrong when I'm watching myself on video but can't figure it out when I'm doing it! I hit driver only about 220 yards max. I hit 9 iron 100 yards and my longest iron, which is 5 goes 140. I suppose I'm wondering will new clubs add a few yards. A few short game lessons will seriously help too. I took 5 lessons with 2 different coaches. Felt like I hit balls for 30 mins and that's it!

I play golf with an 8 h/cap player who plays to those distances. Where he capitalises is from the 100 yds in and his putting.
His driving and mid irons only go the above lengths but they are rarely off the fairway and when he does get into trouble it's quickly put back into play, no heroics, and carry on as normal.

Free Hat

Rock77 wrote: »

Any advice on which irons to buy? I bought a set of masters irons to start off about 2 years ago. They were only €100 new. Graphite shafts. My golf swing is not good and if I had a handicap it would be 28! I know I need to work on my swing and new irons won't magically fix my game! Was thinking maybe Wilson deep red irons? Basically I need the most forgiving irons. Any tips??

As someone who has spent a small fortune on clubs over the years, the only advice I could give you is don't spend too much time thinking about your clubs. If you have a good swing you will be able to play any club you like.

In the beginning I was buying brand name clubs such as Titleist and TaylorMade with stiff shafts and expensive wedges and putters. I had a handicap of 19!

I realised far too late, I can only hit my driver 240/250 yards, my 7 iron 140.
So I got rid of my latest stiff shafted set and got a second hand set of MD golf irons with regular shafts, largely because I liked the look of them at address. I got a few regular fairway woods and a hybrid from MD golf also and concentrated on playing golf instead of playing consumer.

I have improved a heck of a lot since I stopped searching for answers in McGuirks.

First Up

Rock77 wrote: »

Well I suppose my swing is consistent. But there is something fundamentally wrong. I can see what's wrong when I'm watching myself on video but can't figure it out when I'm doing it! I hit driver only about 220 yards max. I hit 9 iron 100 yards and my longest iron, which is 5 goes 140. I suppose I'm wondering will new clubs add a few yards. A few short game lessons will seriously help too. I took 5 lessons with 2 different coaches. Felt like I hit balls for 30 mins and that's it!

Then they were either lousy teachers or you weren't taking in what they were telling you.

Rock77

cheers for the advice, so i think ill stick with the clubs ive got and get some short game lessons!

First Up

benny79 wrote: »

Would you give over I know loads of lads who bought clubs by feel & look (sits well on the eye) and some are single figure to mid hcer's! How will you test all the things you suggest if your buying second hand of someone on adverts?

Simple.
Go to a proper golf shop, talk to someone who knows what they are doing, get them to look at your swing and get their advice on club specs for someone of your standard. Then tell them you will think about it and check the specs on any clubs - new, used or whatever - that you are looking at. You might not get exactly the suggested spec but you will avoid the risk of getting it completely wrong.

My advice is to combine that analytical process with some lessons. But if you prefer the lucky dip approach - go right ahead.

Rock77

First Up wrote: »

Simple.
Go to a proper golf shop, talk to someone who knows what they are doing, get them to look at your swing and get their advice on club specs for someone of your standard. Then tell them you will think about it and check the specs on any clubs - new, used or whatever - that you are looking at. You might not get exactly the suggested spec but you will avoid the risk of getting it completely wrong.

My advice is to combine that analytical process with some lessons. But if you prefer the lucky dip approach - go right ahead.

Good advice, thanks

mossy13

hi,
could do with someones help on a set of golf clubs I have and looking to sell. I have a set of Bridgestone PRO PF 375 irons. I am not into golf myself but I understand that these are rare backed up by the fact that there aren't many results for them when googled. Irons are in about 90% good condition. Looking for an average price from someone who may have come across similar before???