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Buying Machinery - Lease or Hire Purchase Agreement

  • 18-05-2015 9:39am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭


    Hi All, just wondering if anyone on here as obtained machinery through lease or HP?

    Just looking for typical rates in such agreements?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 kk_man


    Always hp here. Don't want a secondary lease or a tax bill. Bought tractor 2nd hand 4.9% over 5 yrs lately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    patjack wrote: »
    Hi All, just wondering if anyone on here as obtained machinery through lease or HP?

    Just looking for typical rates in such agreements?

    if VAT registered most go HP as vat can be reclaimed up front at the beginning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    We're going leasing a tractor 2nd hand. We're registered for VAT. We have to pay a deposit up front. Then just under €10000 per year for the next 5 years starting in 2016. After that you can choose to buy the machine for 2 percent of its value then or keep leasing it for €150 a year or hand it back go again with a different tractor. The other bonus is that you can write the entire cost off against tax and it usually costs less than HP as we looked into both


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    We're going leasing a tractor 2nd hand. We're registered for VAT. We have to pay a deposit up front. Then just under €10000 per year for the next 5 years starting in 2016. After that you can choose to buy the machine for 2 percent of its value then or keep leasing it for €150 a year or hand it back go again with a different tractor. The other bonus is that you can write the entire cost off against tax and it usually costs less than HP as we looked into both


    a bit of a novice when it comes to the finance side of things so bear with me if I'm asking stupid questions.

    if you were to buy a new tractor for 65k with trade-in of 20k plus 10k cash input.

    Where would you suggest is the best option for the balance of 35k (not VAT reg)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Dunedin wrote: »
    a bit of a novice when it comes to the finance side of things so bear with me if I'm asking stupid questions.

    if you were to buy a new tractor for 65k with trade-in of 20k plus 10k cash input.

    Where would you suggest is the best option for the balance of 35k (not VAT reg)

    Basically you shop around. If not VAT registered I do not think that I would go leasing I think I get a term loan. HP may be an option if maker is doinfg a low interest option however most of these are over 3 years max. Shop around banks andf credit unions. Disadvantage with credit unions they may require you keeping 20-25% of loan amount on deposit.

    When inbusiness banks in general seems to be bertter to deal with


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Dunedin wrote: »
    a bit of a novice when it comes to the finance side of things so bear with me if I'm asking stupid questions.

    if you were to buy a new tractor for 65k with trade-in of 20k plus 10k cash input.

    Where would you suggest is the best option for the balance of 35k (not VAT reg)

    Could you finance it through the dealership ? Most of them have a fairly good percentage rate over 5 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    Could you finance it through the dealership ? Most of them have a fairly good percentage rate over 5 years


    These in general are HP agreements you are putting the machine up as security. If you miss a payment they can and will seize the machine


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