Petrol driven water pump

onyerbikepat

I need to pump from a river up to a field just 3 or 4 feet above. I was thinking of using a petrol driven pump and fill a couple of IBC containers and then connect them to a trough.
Does anyone do this and if so could they could recommend a good pump?
There is no electricity source nearby and not enough fall in the river for a ram pump.

Connemara Farmer

Honda

18MonthsaSlave

Honda engines are good but there are cheap two strokes out there which are so easy to carry around. Longevity and volume wise they wouldn't match a good four stroke but they are just so handy.

Honda; make a distinction between honda engine and complete honda pump.

Justjens

Don't know what pumps are available now but think you are going to need something that can handle dirty water.

Had a 5hp Honda running a waterpac pump that could lift about 100', so you won't need a lot of HP. It was a bomb proof pump that could shift dirt and grit, but had an aversion to frost, in the same way the Honda did to water (when the river flooded!).

No longer have the pump, that found a new home in Tullamore.

You are going to need a side shaft motor and mount the lot on something sturdy with dampening and well anchored, or it will travel when the engine is running!

cordangan

Engineer in Tipperary manufacturing Ram pumps that use the flow of the river or stream to pump water. For every meter fall In the river he gets 4 meters height. Uses no battery electricity or fuel. I saw his prototype and it is amazing to watch. Seemingly these type of pumps have been around since 19th century for pumping water. No idea of price but if you PM me I will give you his number. I know you said no fall in river, but there has to be as that is why the river flows. Put a long enough pipe in the river and you will be surprised what fall you get.

gctest50

only 3 or 4 feet ? could you dig down and make it level for a bit ?

Nekarsulm

You will soon learn how much petrol to put in the tank to pump enough water to fill your IBCs. Then you can start it and leave it running. No need to stand waiting. Will run out of petrol and stopIits self.

onyerbikepat

Nekarsulm wrote: »

You will soon learn how much petrol to put in the tank to pump enough water to fill your IBCs. Then you can start it and leave it running. No need to stand waiting. Will run out of petrol and stopIits self.

You could wire the engine to a float switch too.

onyerbikepat

cordangan wrote: »

... I know you said no fall in river, but there has to be as that is why the river flows. Put a long enough pipe in the river and you will be surprised what fall you get.

I know about the Ram Pumps but I was looking at the stream yesterday, and a stream is all it is really. I don't think there is enough of a fall. Where I want to put it, the most I reckon I can get is maybe a foot and a half over a distance of about 30 feet. Back from that, the stream looks level. doesn't even look like it's flowing.
It would be ideal if I could get it to work.

djmc

You could dig a small hole in the stream and connect a pasture pump and let the cattle or horses do the pumping
Or even try a small solor pump and panel off eBay
I would think a pasture or nose pump would be more robust and trouble free
Each one will do 15 to 20 cows

freedominacup

onyerbikepat wrote: »

You could wire the engine to a float switch too.

You could be spending your time better too. A 5hp water pump would fill a couple of IBCs in a matter of a couple of minutes. If the flow of the stream is as low as you say you could have a problem keeping water into it.

MfMan

One of these maybe? Good type pump, you'll have to get the hoses yourself. Cut the outlet hose down to required length.

http://www.jebbtools.ie/petrol-water-pump

onyerbikepat

Honda do a nice light one for €529. Only weighs 6.8Kg and pumps 160Lt/min.
Model - WX10
http://www.hondaireland.ie/power-equipment/water-pumps/wx10/

The next model up, same price, up weighs 21Kg but will pump 600 Lt/min.

Problem for me is, I will have to carry it across a field to get to the stream, so the lighter one might suit better.

lakill Farm

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Honda do a nice light one for €529. Only weighs 6.8Kg and pumps 160Lt/min.
Model - WX10
http://www.hondaireland.ie/power-equipment/water-pumps/wx10/

The next model up, same price, up weighs 21Kg but will pump 600 Lt/min.

Problem for me is, I will have to carry it across a field to get to the stream, so the lighter one might suit better.

the next size up is same price and shifts 600 litres a minute

woops I see you said that also

djmc

freedominacup wrote: »

You could be spending your time better too. A 5hp water pump would fill a couple of IBCs in a matter of a couple of minutes. If the flow of the stream is as low as you say you could have a problem keeping water into it.

I would agree with above you would need a good flow or big pool or hole to store.
When they need water most in mid summer the stream will be at its lowest

Connemara Farmer

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Problem for me is, I will have to carry it across a field to get to the stream

21kg isn't so heavy, bag of ration is 25kg, problem is the size and shape, maybe wheelbarrow?

onyerbikepat

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

21kg isn't so heavy, bag of ration is 25kg, problem is the size and shape, maybe wheelbarrow?

I was thinking exactly the same thing. I even weighed a lump of a machine part at work today. It was 22Kg and I wouldn't fancy carrying it across a field every few days.

Connemara Farmer

onyerbikepat wrote: »

I was thinking exactly the same thing. I even weighed a lump of a machine part at work today. It was 22Kg and I wouldn't fancy carrying it across a field every few days.

No, it'd get old quickly.

Another option is a solar panel, battery, float switch and 12v pump (Rule Bilge pumps are meant to be good, but don't know their ability re "lift"). But you'd need to build some type of weatherproof housing for that, theft proof also.