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Bull Star Rating

  • 15-05-2015 8:44pm
    #1
    doyleshill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭


    Where does a Bull get his Star Rating from ?


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  • #2
    onyerbikepat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭onyerbikepat


    "I ofen looked up at the sky an' assed meself the question – what is the moon, what is the stars?"

    http://www.icbf.com/?p=1332


  • #3
    Tyson Lannister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Tyson Lannister


    onyerbikepat wrote: »
    "I ofen looked up at the sky an' assed meself the question – what is the moon, what is the stars?"

    http://www.icbf.com/?p=1332

    Fixed to the wheel with a marlin spike, n the wind blowed n blowed. Blew is the right word joxer, but blowed is what the sailors use!


  • #4
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    doyleshill wrote: »
    Where does a Bull get his Star Rating from ?

    When he's young they're from his parents and ancestors, the older he gets, the more progeny he has (hopefully) the more data there is on him and eventually his stars (and his ancestors, to a lesser extent) are more accurate. The data is collected from weighings and carcase grades at factories and marts. Maternal is more influenced by how regularly a bulls daughters calve, the weights of those calves at weaning (milk kg).

    Have you looked up a bull on the icbf website? Any questions we'll try to answer them, but I honestly think no one has all the answers!!

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #5
    Tyson Lannister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Tyson Lannister


    blue5000 wrote: »
    When he's young they're from his parents and ancestors, the older he gets, the more progeny he has (hopefully) the more data there is on him and eventually his stars (and his ancestors, to a lesser extent) are more accurate. The data is collected from weighings and carcase grades at factories and marts. Maternal is more influenced by how regularly a bulls daughters calve, the weights of those calves at weaning (milk kg).

    Have you looked up a bull on the icbf website? Any questions we'll try to answer them, but I honestly think no one has all the answers!!

    Wouldn't his stars be affected then by the quality of cows the bull is put on, are the calves creep fed etc.? I mean the bull could look great with one farmer and poor with the next?


  • #6
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Yes, or if a bull produces cracking weanlings and they are bought by some old lad who castrates them, feeds them hay for the winter, stemmy grass for the summer and eventually slaughters them at around 3 year old, it's not going to do the bulls terminal stars any good.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • #7
    Sligoronan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Sligoronan


    When I look my cows on the icbf website some of the best ones are 2 stars and the worst breeder is a 4 star. Or am I reading the info wrong.


  • #8
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Sligoronan wrote: »
    When I look my cows on the icbf website some of the best ones are 2 stars and the worst breeder is a 4 star. Or am I reading the info wrong.
    No you are not wrong, it's just that icbf's opinion and your opinion on what's a good cow are different:confused:

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #9
    onyerbikepat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭onyerbikepat


    blue5000 wrote: »
    No you are not wrong, it's just that icbf's opinion and your opinion on what's a good cow are different:confused:

    Well, nobody knows your own cows like you do.


  • #10
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    Easy calved Bulls seem to get lots of stars and high eurostar ratings while the opposite seems to be true for harder calved Bulls, especially on the maternal index.
    The problem with this is that easy calved Bulls often breed cows with poorer calving ability than cows off harder calved Bulls.


  • #11
    LivInt20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭LivInt20


    doyleshill wrote: »
    Where does a Bull get his Star Rating from ?


    Beef €urostar explained

    http://www.icbf.com/publications/files/EuroStars_Explanatory_leaflet_140313.pdf


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  • #12
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    I wonder will there be any way to appeal a cow/heifers star rating if you believe it to be completely incorrect for her?


  • #13
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    Kovu wrote: »
    I wonder will there be any way to appeal a cow/heifers star rating if you believe it to be completely incorrect for her?

    Computer says No.


  • #14
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Kovu wrote: »
    I wonder will there be any way to appeal a cow/heifers star rating if you believe it to be completely incorrect for her?

    not a hope!
    you could get her genotyped which could change her rating


  • #15
    Bigbird1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Bigbird1


    tanko wrote: »
    Easy calved Bulls seem to get lots of stars and high eurostar ratings while the opposite seems to be true for harder calved Bulls, especially on the maternal index.
    The problem with this is that easy calved Bulls often breed cows with poorer calving ability than cows off harder calved Bulls.

    Yes i think calving difficulty should not influence the overall eurostar of the bull. It should be seperate let the farmer decide If he wants to use an easy or harder calved bull.


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