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Pippy1976

I recently made a valid comment about the red pigment in lipsticks being made from crushed beetle shells over on the Beauty forum.

I have to say I was shocked, and a bit upset, by other posters flippant comments pretty much summing up that the general joe-soap really doesn't care about what they're putting on their skin / bodies & are quite willing to disregard anyone who, whilst might have used these products in the past but now doesn't, is trying to make a difference & be as ethical in their living as they possibly can.

I don't know. I was deeply dismayed. Felt I needed to share that & see what likeminded people think....

pwurple

Well, you called beetles unnatural, where clearly they are natural.

Whether they are ethical is another question. But you didn't raise that question with your post.


Beauty products are a minefield. I spent a good while scanning barcodes on toothpaste and various other products around the house to make sure we were not using microbeads. http://www.beatthemicrobead.org/en/

Pippy1976

pwurple wrote: »

Well, you called beetles unnatural, where clearly they are natural.

Whether they are ethical is another question. But you didn't raise that question with your post.


Beauty products are a minefield. I spent a good while scanning barcodes on toothpaste and various other products around the house to make sure we were not using microbeads. http://www.beatthemicrobead.org/en/

I didn't actually mean 'natural' as in a living, breathing thing I mean it's unnatural to add these things to cosmetics. And on reflection I should've said cruelty free... but it was a Beauty thread about something different & I felt I didn't have the right to take over a thread about something unrelated to the OP.

Penny Tration

Well it was completely unrelated to the op tbh.

And you became very snide with one poster, saying 'if you want to put beetle carcass on your body then I'll leave you to it.'

With that kind of attitude, I wouldn't really have listened to your points either, valid or not.

Pippy1976

Jenny Thalia wrote: »

Well it was completely unrelated to the op tbh.

And you became very snide with one poster, saying 'if you want to put beetle carcass on your body then I'll leave you to it.'

With that kind of attitude, I wouldn't really have listened to your points either, valid or not.

o.k. Thanks for that.

--LOS--

ok in fairness OP did say she wanted to see what likeminded people think.


I think that you used 'natural' in a moral sense and it was interpreted merely as referring to nature and hence the schism. And that about sums it up, so you're taking something personally that was never intended that way (totally understandable, hey we all do, we're not robots), meanwhile everyone else is just stuck on semantics. So maybe just realising that might take the sting out of it for you. Appeals to nature are generally the type of thing used to justify any kind of cruelty or oppression, so probably not the best word to use, sometimes it makes sense all right, often it's just one of those meaningless words like tradition or culture (doing something for a long time doesn't make it right). Maybe if you had clarified what you meant, to be honest I would be more shocked if I got a good response outside this forum . Then of course there will always be people that just do not care, it's upsetting but it's no reflection on you. Maybe you educated someone with your post who didn't respond. I will admit beetles are not the easiest creature to feel empathy for, the whole animal testing part of beauty is a more relatable argument imo

--LOS--

a ragequit after all my efforts


Going to close this now so, it probably already crossed the line discussing other forums anyway