Re sheep sampling and dosing

karolmc100

I sampled my ewes and the results have shown that they are positive for lungworms and a low positive for rumen fluke.Can somebody tell me what would be the best dose to use for this

tom_k

I'd try something like Levafas Diamond. Low rumen fluke positive shouldn't be a major worry but Levafas contains oxyclozanide which is one of the few drugs effective against it. Zanil is also good against rumen fluke but probably not as effective against the lungworm. A quick call to the vet might get you a better recommendation.

Future testing will show if the parasite is showing resistance. I'd be interested to hear what you use and how you get on.

razor8

IMO I wouldn't worry about the rumen fluke yet, most sheep have a certain amount. to target lungworms I always find tramazole a good dose as it covers a lot of other worms as well and not expensive

karolmc100

razor8 wrote: »

IMO I wouldn't worry about the rumen fluke yet, most sheep have a certain amount. to target lungworms I always find tramazole a good dose as it covers a lot of other worms as well and not expensive

Is tamazole a product or just the ingredients in a worming product

Username John

razor8 wrote: »

IMO I wouldn't worry about the rumen fluke yet, most sheep have a certain amount. to target lungworms I always find tramazole a good dose as it covers a lot of other worms as well and not expensive

Nice short withdrawal as well

Sheep must not be slaughtered for human consumption until 4 days after last treatment.

karolmc100 wrote: »

Is tamazole a product or just the ingredients in a worming product

See these two links
10%
2.5%

One is 10%, and the other 2.5%
Any ideas why - as the dosages seem the same...

rangler1

Username John wrote: »

Nice short withdrawal as well




See these two links
10%
2.5%

One is 10%, and the other 2.5%
Any ideas why - as the dosages seem the same...

The 2.5% probably refers to the SC (SELENIUM COBALT)

ganmo

Username John wrote: »

Nice short withdrawal as well




See these two links
10%
2.5%

One is 10%, and the other 2.5%
Any ideas why - as the dosages seem the same...

cattle + sheep
sheep + cattle
dosing rate shouldn't be the same, if the 10% was 5ml for sheep the 2.5% should be 20ml for sheep.

ganmo

10%
Sheep:
(1 ml Tramazole 10% per 20 kg bodyweight)= 2ml per 40kg


2.5%
2ml of Tramazole 2.5% SC per 10kg bodyweight. =

Username John

ganmo wrote: »

10%
Sheep:
(1 ml Tramazole 10% per 20 kg bodyweight)= 2ml per 40kg


2.5%
2ml of Tramazole 2.5% SC per 10kg bodyweight. =

Ah - tis me sums let me down

I'll get me coat...

(Thanks ganmo)

orm0nd

karolmc100 wrote: »

I sampled my ewes and the results have shown that they are positive for lungworms and a low positive for rumen fluke.Can somebody tell me what would be the best dose to use for this

I would be inclined to use Zanil along with a shot of one of the cheap invermectims (spelling ? ) long withdrawal however

karolmc100 wrote: »

Is tamazole a product or just the ingredients in a worming product

Tramaozole is a brand name.. Albendazole is the main ingredient, Albex is the same thing along with a few more

Username John wrote: »

See these two links
10%
2.5%

One is 10%, and the other 2.5%
Any ideas why - as the dosages seem the same...

10% is cattle 2.5 sheep




Edit , posted same time as ganmo

ganmo

Username John wrote: »

Ah - tis me sums let me down

I'll get me coat...

(Thanks ganmo)

2nd pair of eyes always helps

razor8

Relied on ivermectin based products for many years here which resulted in huge tapeworm burdens. Tramazole has controlled this very well along with nemo and never have lambs coughing either but as above many similar products available

davidk1394

We used curazol there for nometadirus. We have an awful time with that pest. Its a drench for cattle but we only gave the lambs 1ml each and it worked a treat

Username John

Gave mine their first dose this morning - they around 6 - 8 weeks.
Used tramazole as had it already.

Weighed a few lambs and they seem to be doing ok, happy enough.

Ewes are thin tho, and some of em very thin...

sea12

Username John wrote: »

Gave mine their first dose this morning - they around 6 - 8 weeks.
Used tramazole as had it already.

Weighed a few lambs and they seem to be doing ok, happy enough.

Ewes are thin tho, and some of em very thin...

Did the same myself today john. Lambs coming nicely but like yourself few thin ewes. Grass growth shocking poor though luckily just managing to keep ahead of them.

Green farmer

Very hard to put any condition back on them when their milking.

razor8

Had sheep in today and lambs doing very well despite very little grass around here, I gave them an agrimin bolus to save time drenching every few weeks. Never used any bolus before. It Took awhile to get used to administrating them

Username John

razor8 wrote: »

Had sheep in today and lambs doing very well despite very little grass around here, I gave them an agrimin bolus to save time drenching every few weeks. Never used any bolus before. It Took awhile to get used to administrating them

These ones Razor?
http://www.agrimin.co.uk/all-trace-small-trace
The "smAll-Trace Trace Element Boluses for Sheep"

I was half thinking of getting the mayo healthcare ones for the lambs at weaning time.
I gave the ewes a cobalt bolus after lambing, so hope that'll do em for a while.

razor8

No UJ it was these ones specifically for lambs

http://www.agrimin.co.uk/agrimin-247-smartrace-for-lambs

€74 for 200 and lambs get 2 each, if not careful id imagine it's very easy to damage a lambs throat. Sales rep said they can't keep then made but I guess he wud say that, weighed half the lambs in one batch and there doing 330 dwg so happy with that with the year that it's been so far

Username John

razor8 wrote: »

No UJ it was these ones specifically for lambs

http://www.agrimin.co.uk/agrimin-247-smartrace-for-lambs

€74 for 200 and lambs get 2 each, if not careful id imagine it's very easy to damage a lambs throat. Sales rep said they can't keep then made but I guess he wud say that, weighed half the lambs in one batch and there doing 330 dwg so happy with that with the year that it's been so far

Ah - interesting... Let us know what you think.

I wasn't going to give em to the lambs for another bit, was hoping the ewes would cover em through the milk, til around weaning time. Will see when I have em in again...

I weighed a few of mine, and they seem to be doing 315/day which I was kinda surprised at, I was expecting a bit worse to be honest...

razor8

Username John wrote: »

Ah - interesting... Let us know what you think.

I wasn't going to give em to the lambs for another bit, was hoping the ewes would cover em through the milk, til around weaning time. Will see when I have em in again...

I weighed a few of mine, and they seem to be doing 315/day which I was kinda surprised at, I was expecting a bit worse to be honest...

I had already drenched mine, made a decision I wasn't going to let minerals slip this year, got grass samples done last year and very low in cobalt here. Lambs are probably still young, gun seemed massive for the size of lambs, found Suffolk's Feckers for spitting then out