How much more will the word change?

Darkest Horse

I heard a segment on Newstalk the other day entitled 'the music of 2000'. Listening to the songs they picked, it struck me that they could be in the charts in 2015 and nobody would bat an eyelid. They sounded identical to the current stuff. Wind back 15 years prior to 2000 and I'm sure most would agree, this would not be the case.

I've extrapolated this to other things. YouTube wasn't around 100 years ago so it's hard for us to appreciate the customs and culture of that time. Wind forward 100 years from now and I don't think our ways, behaviours, fashion sense, musical taste, technological advancement and anything else you care to name would look so arcane and out of date to the people of the future. It would be in full colour for one thing.

I guess what I am saying is the more things change, the more the stay the same.

The Backwards Man

Progress stopped on the 9 July 1991.

Everything since has been a rehash.

It's true, the year 2000 seems a lot closer to now than it does to 1985. I think that might be a sign of me getting older though

kneemos

Nothing changes but the decor.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Which word?

Wacker The Attacker

Memphis Scary Therapy wrote: »

Which word?

bird is the word

kneemos

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

bird is the word

The bird is the word!

Massimo Cassagrande

Memphis Scary Therapy wrote: »

Which word?

I think he meant ward.

Darkest Horse

Massimo Cassagrande wrote: »

I think he meant ward.

I meant wort.

Nucular Arms

kneemos wrote: »

The bird is the word!

Ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ooh mao mao, ooh mao ma mao
ma ma ma ooh mao mao, ooh mao ma mao

Capt'n Midnight

Darkest Horse wrote: »

I heard a segment on Newstalk the other day entitled 'the music of 2000'. Listening to the songs they picked, it struck me that they could be in the charts in 2015 and nobody would bat an eyelid. They sounded identical to the current stuff. Wind back 15 years prior to 2000 and I'm sure most would agree, this would not be the case.

Late 70's early 80's
there was lots of new stuff around

syklops

The change I would like to see would be people proof reading their posts and titles.

That and nuclear fission.

Vinculus

Everything changes . Absolutely nothing is permanent.

Give chaos a hug :-)

silverfeather

Vinculus wrote: »

Everything changes . Absolutely nothing is permanent.

Give chaos a hug :-)

Form ..logos ..does not change...:-P

Vinculus

silverfeather wrote: »

Form ..logos ..does not change...:-P

You have to escuse me, I'm a little bit tipsy and a bit thick but that reply went way over my head.

Vinculus

silverfeather wrote: »

Form ..logos ..does not change...:-P

You have to escuse me, I'm a little bit tipsy and a bit thick but that reply went way over my head.

Flood

Vinculus wrote: »

You have to escuse me, I'm a little bit tipsy and a bit thick but that reply went way over my head.

Vinculus wrote: »

You have to escuse me, I'm a little bit tipsy and a bit thick but that reply went way over my head.

Over your head twice?

Xenji

The 80's were the golden years for excess in basically everything good and bad ( unless you lived here ) for me I see it as the peak of human expression ( also good and bad ) the world now is mundane and boring, no matter what you do or say their will be outcry and people are too afraid to fully express themselves, most places are becoming nanny states.

"Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit." Sums up where the world is going.

silverfeather

Vinculus wrote: »

You have to escuse me, I'm a little bit tipsy and a bit thick but that reply went way over my head.

principle that governs all things. reason -- behind the creation and coordination

That which does not change...In the beginning was Logos (the Word), and the Logos was with God, and Logos was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. Logos (The Word) became flesh and made his dwelling among us.

Soul ...formula ..psyche...form..identity.

silverfeather

The more things change the more they stay the same. Same old world.

Capt'n Midnight

syklops wrote: »

The change I would like to see would be people proof reading their posts and tities.

That and nuclear fission.

If you want to see nuclear fusion stare at the sun.

Fission is what happens in Nuclear Reactors and is generally accompanied by lots of gamma rays and radioactive waste in a plant where corners have been cut because it's not as cost effective as they claim.

Sunnyisland

Nothing changes if nothing changes...

Special Circumstances

I expect Facebook to have eleventy billion gender choices in a decades time. 70 will just seem so antiquated and conservative.

WoollyRedHat

When we live in cities in the sky, ah that'll be the day.

Adamantium

I think we'll enter a long period of stasis for a few hundred years with our current tech. What we've gone through is an anomaly .

How long did the Middle ages and bronze ages last and everything looked various shades of brown and green for thousands of years.

Capt'n Midnight

Adamantium wrote: »

I think we'll enter a long period of stasis for a few hundred years with our current tech. What we've gone through is an anomaly .

How long did the Middle ages and bronze ages last and everything looked various shades of brown and green for thousands of years.

Plough and crop rotation were invented in the middle ages. Huge effect on food production.

Lots of other advances then too.


We won't enter stasis for a while. Even if we invent nothing new for ages there's plenty of stuff in the pipeline waiting to be commercialised. Even if we invent nothing new we'll still figure out more efficient ways of doing things.

We already have most of the tools we need like Big data ,DNA sequencing , graphene.

For mature products technology seems to have stopped. Yes most of today's aircraft look like a 1957 Boeing 707 'cept they have better electronics use more plastic and the engines have larger fans. Yes manned space flight today, and resupply missions to the ISS still rely on a modified 1957 ICBM. But under the bonnet better electronics and better materials mean there have been modest advances in weights, and safety.

Today's nuclear reactors still operate on the principle of the 1944 ones, put enough fissile material in one place and it will get hot enough to generate steam to drive 19th century technology turbines and generators. There are so few nuclear power plants of any given type that there aren't the economies of scale and learning curves that apply to wind or solar.


The BIG invention would be cheap and light energy storage. At present we use fossil fuels.


Compressed air energy storage. Just means the compressing fan at the front of a jet turbine doesn't have to run at the same time as the rest of the turbine. You've heard of grid storage batteries. CAES at two sites until recently delivered more storage than all the batteries worldwide. Batteries are expensive. Stuff like undersea bladders might dramatically reduce the cost.
At present energy to fuel process are four times as expensive as fossil fuel. If that gap can be closed then renewables have won. The cost of energy from renewables is falling so the gap is closing from that side, and no one expects fossil fuels to get cheaper in the very long run. Who needs electric cars when you can have cheap green fuel ? Or cheap methanol fuel cells, which would double or trebble the conversion of energy from the tank to the wheel.

Lithium isn't cheap. And a lot has to do with Bolivia not wanting to be screwed like it was over other resources. But it's practical in electric cars 'cept for the price.

Supper-capacitors aren't cheap, but if made from some biological process they could be. Even something as simple as using organic charcoal from a suitable fungi for one electrode might be the beak through needed, it's a dimension thing.

A breakthrough in drilling costs would allow cheap geothermal energy.


Cheap energy means lots of things. For a start aluminium is solidified electricity. Replacing steel in cars would save a lot of weight and fuel. You could use aluminium/air batteries to produce electric cars with petrol like ranges.

cml387

I can't accept your assertion that 15 years back from 2000 the songs would be obviously different OP.
I submit that maybe you could go back to the 1950's and they would sound different but to take some examples:
1966

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liJbriVSn9o

1970

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

mikom

One thousand years from now, there won't be any guys and there won't be any girls, just ****.
Sounds all right to me.

Darkest Horse

cml387 wrote: »

I can't accept your assertion that 15 years back from 2000 the songs would be obviously different OP.
I submit that maybe you could go back to the 1950's and they would sound different but to take some examples:
1966

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liJbriVSn9o

1970

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

I'm not sure your example is the best one but I admit this is subjective. To look at it a slightly different way, a lot of the music from 2000 sounds very like the commercialised stuff we have today. Go listen to Britney Spears or Robbie Williams and tell me if you think it sounds old. Then go listen to Duran Duran Madonna's 80s stuff. It's of a different era altogether.

Wacker The Attacker

kneemos wrote: »

The bird is the word!

everybody knows that the bird is the word