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Jobseekers and rent help?

  • 09-05-2015 7:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5


    Hey guys, can anyone help me?
    I'm a 22 year old female and in receipt of welfare living in a family home, yet my mother has just recently established a rule that if i continue on living here then I would need to pay her 100 a week, which is what I'm getting exactly on my Jobseekers allowance. Her conditions include cleaning her shed, the toilet and my residing room. Before this rule she sometimes ask me for money for her groceries, clothes or dancing lessons that she doesnt pay back off my welfare.

    I've had my own apartment before but has come to live here again from having surgery done that has left me unable to work or even walk for a while.

    She has recently established this because of reasons that i dont contribute, i do, everyday, when i tell her what i do she says that i dont need to tell her because she lets me live there, up to 12 to clock sometimes doing housework for her when i can't even fix my own first. I took one day off out of everyday then establishes this rule. She's become very disrespectful and treats me like a maid. When I've only asked her why she cant ask me more nicely she storms off and kicks my clothes to the floor. Even when I'm sick and just out of surgery before as mentioned, she makes me work knowing i was in pain.

    I am currently awaiting a Beauty course in my local town.

    She is also getting welfare aswell but shes just on leave from her workplace.

    We fight alot and i wouldn't like to continue living in her house. I am applying for work aswell whenever i can but i can't save up for a decently cheap apartment when she's going to start taking my full jobseekers as rent. I don't know what to do, if i have a way out of here. If anyone has some suggestions or helpful thoughts or options, please tell me.

    Thank you kindly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    Well tell her if she takes the €100 per week off you, she'll need to inform social welfare so that it can be used as means to calculate her payment. Perhaps if she is informed that her payment could be reduced because of her extra income, she might be more lenient on the amount. Aside from that, you could visit your local CWO (community welfare officer) and explain to them that you will have exactly no money to save. They might be willing to loan you the deposit for a place with the agreement that an amount will be taken from your weekly payment. This all depends on where you are though, I find that CWOs in smaller towns tend to be more sympathetic to these cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭freelancerTax


    Jesseray wrote: »
    Hey guys, can anyone help me?
    I'm a 22 year old female and in receipt of welfare living in a family home, yet my mother has just recently established a rule that if i continue on living here then I would need to pay her 100 a week, which is what I'm getting exactly on my Jobseekers allowance. Her conditions include cleaning her shed, the toilet and my residing room. Before this rule she sometimes ask me for money for her groceries, clothes or dancing lessons that she doesnt pay back off my welfare.

    I've had my own apartment before but has come to live here again from having surgery done that has left me unable to work or even walk for a while.

    She has recently established this because of reasons that i dont contribute, i do, everyday, when i tell her what i do she says that i dont need to tell her because she lets me live there, up to 12 to clock sometimes doing housework for her when i can't even fix my own first. I took one day off out of everyday then establishes this rule. She's become very disrespectful and treats me like a maid. When I've only asked her why she cant ask me more nicely she storms off and kicks my clothes to the floor. Even when I'm sick and just out of surgery before as mentioned, she makes me work knowing i was in pain.

    I am currently awaiting a Beauty course in my local town.

    She is also getting welfare aswell but shes just on leave from her workplace.

    We fight alot and i wouldn't like to continue living in her house. I am applying for work aswell whenever i can but i can't save up for a decently cheap apartment when she's going to start taking my full jobseekers as rent. I don't know what to do, if i have a way out of here. If anyone has some suggestions or helpful thoughts or options, please tell me.

    Thank you kindly.

    your mother sounds very mean.. move out if you can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭triple nipple


    ShaShaBear wrote:
    Well tell her if she takes the €100 per week off you, she'll need to inform social welfare so that it can be used as means to calculate her payment. Perhaps if she is informed that her payment could be reduced because of her extra income, she might be more lenient on the amount. Aside from that, you could visit your local CWO (community welfare officer) and explain to them that you will have exactly no money to save. They might be willing to loan you the deposit for a place with the agreement that an amount will be taken from your weekly payment. This all depends on where you are though, I find that CWOs in smaller towns tend to be more sympathetic to these cases.


    good way to get yoursmelf kicked out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    good way to get yoursmelf kicked out

    Well if her mother kicks her out, she can refer to my second point. If she seeks help, she won't be left homeless. She needs to be able to stand up to her, otherwise she is stuck there. As she said, impossible to save when there is no money.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Lets try keeping on topic please,OP talk to your local CWO re rent allowance.(I know there are rules but there is no harm in asking)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 Jesseray


    mp22 wrote: »
    Lets try keeping on topic please,OP talk to your local CWO re rent allowance.(I know there are rules but there is no harm in asking)
    mp22 wrote: »
    Lets try keeping on topic please,OP talk to your local CWO re rent allowance.(I know there are rules but there is no harm in asking)

    Mp I read that they don't allow rent allowance in you're renting and living in a family home and I'd need a duration of days living on my own and my oenplace to be able to apply right?

    Shasha I'm gonna talk to the welfare office tomorrow and they say, atleast get some help in putting me in some sort of housing waiting list but your idea of a loan and taking an amount from my receipt sounds like a good idea.

    I honestly can't live here anymore.
    It isnt fair making me feel bad everyday about living here when shes the one getting more than me and asking for money and now full on my allowance and she knows I'd like to move away from her but with this I'm not gonna have anything left. Only one day off out of everyday and she calls me lazy and is now trying to make me pay all i have. I have kittens too and if i give all of it to her, they're gonna starve. She doesnt buy them food at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭haveringchick


    If you are not well enough to work you shouldn't be on JSA . You need to go back to your GP get a Illness Benefit cert complete it and submit it to your local SW office. Do this even though you are not entitled to Illness Benefit.
    Then go to the CWO and have a chat.
    The CWO should give you your €100.
    You then have to get on your local authority housing list so fill in the application form and submit it. It's by no means certain that they will accept you.
    NOTE: THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GETTING A "LOAN" FROM THE CWO FOR A DEPOSIT AND PAYING IT BACK. That doesn't happen.
    IF you are accepted on to the housing list and
    IF you find accommodation which is accepted and which you can afford (will probably be a room in a shared house)
    then the CWO could possibly help you with a deposit and rent supplement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 Jesseray


    If you are not well enough to work you shouldn't be on JSA . You need to go back to your GP get a Illness Benefit cert complete it and submit it to your local SW office. Do this even though you are not entitled to Illness Benefit.
    Then go to the CWO and have a chat.
    The CWO should give you your €100.
    You then have to get on your local authority housing list so fill in the application form and submit it. It's by no means certain that they will accept you.
    NOTE: THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GETTING A "LOAN" FROM THE CWO FOR A DEPOSIT AND PAYING IT BACK. That doesn't happen.
    IF you are accepted on to the housing list and
    IF you find accommodation which is accepted and which you can afford (will probably be a room in a shared house)
    then the CWO could possibly help you with a deposit and rent supplement.

    No i said i came to live in her house just after having surgery and that was in November last year, I've fully recovered and applied for JSA. What i was saying about that is even when i needed time to recover then she made me work, even when i get sick at times, dizzy, stomach or headache she makes me work with no consideration about my well-being and just throws my clothes in the floor or kicks them. I'd really like to leave i cannot stand the attitude and disrespect anymore. Thanks for letting me know that there's no such thing as one and for the steps. I have a GP card applied for it's not here yet. It's only a GP card not a medical so the medications from the pharmacy aren't covered, if i give my all then i couldn't even get medicine the times when i do get sick. The initial idea of living here was for free as long as i help around and i did that everyday, now its changed from her greedyness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    If you are not well enough to work you shouldn't be on JSA . You need to go back to your GP get a Illness Benefit cert complete it and submit it to your local SW office. Do this even though you are not entitled to Illness Benefit.
    Then go to the CWO and have a chat.
    The CWO should give you your €100.
    You then have to get on your local authority housing list so fill in the application form and submit it. It's by no means certain that they will accept you.
    NOTE: THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GETTING A "LOAN" FROM THE CWO FOR A DEPOSIT AND PAYING IT BACK. That doesn't happen.
    IF you are accepted on to the housing list and
    IF you find accommodation which is accepted and which you can afford (will probably be a room in a shared house)
    then the CWO could possibly help you with a deposit and rent supplement.

    I myself was given a loan by a CWO in Louth when my landlady refused to give me back my deposit until one month after I was due to move out. I needed it to secure the apartment I moved into, and she was adamant I wasn't getting it until the place was inspected one month later. They don't have a "thing", but I went in and asked was there anything I could do, as I was out on my own with nowhere to go and in full-time education. The CWO gave me the deposit for the apartment, and I paid back in full when I received it back from my old landlady, even though she said I could have it taken from my payment weekly. A very good friend of mine got a similar payment from a CWO when her partner attacked her and she was forced to leave with her baby in order to secure somewhere for her to live. The only difference being she was awarded the money with no obligation to give it back. CWOs have the discretion to give out all manner of "exceptional needs" payments for different things depending on the case. It does absolutely no harm for the OP to go visit and state her case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭haveringchick


    OP why do you think your not getting a medical card?
    Shasha an ENP is not a loan and an ENP doesn't have to be paid back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    OP why do you think your not getting a medical card?
    Shasha an ENP is not a loan and an ENP doesn't have to be paid back.

    I know that, but I did offer to pay mine back and did so, my friend did not. Perhaps if I hadn't offered to pay it back I wouldn't have had to. Nonetheless, the OP could very well ask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 Jesseray


    OP why do you think your not getting a medical card?
    Shasha an ENP is not a loan and an ENP doesn't have to be paid back.

    Hey havering, i was on the phone with them about the medical, they said the only thing they could give me is a GP card, not a medical because i am living in a family home. They saw me as a dependent to my mother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Jesseray wrote: »
    Hey havering, i was on the phone with them about the medical, they said the only thing they could give me is a GP card, not a medical because i am living in a family home. They saw me as a dependent to my mother.

    Have a read here regarding your entitlement to a medical card... If you are not a dependent to your mother then you have an entitlement to a medical card.

    It still doesn't make sense that they told you this. If you are living in your parents home and are receiving JSA then you are entitled to a medical card.
    If your only income is a means tested Social Welfare Allowance, you will qualify for a Medical Card. You will also be eligible for a Medical Card if your income or means of you and your spouse/partner is below our income guidelines. Your means includes any income, property (but not your own home), investments and savings.


    http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/1/schemes/mc/about/Amieligible/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭bisset


    If you have the support of a social worker you have a better chance of being granted rent allowance. Perhaps you could contact a medical social worker in the hospital where you had your surgery, Ask in your local health office if there is a Primary Care Social Worker you could see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Just apply here for your medical card. You will need a printer. http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/1/schemes/mc/about/howtoapply/


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