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Quitting a job less than a week, welfare issues

  • 05-05-2015 8:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭


    I started a new job a few days ago and it's simply not what I expected at all, my personality Isn't suited to it at all and the short few days I have been there now I can tell its not really for me. It's a shame because I turned down a job that would of been right up my alley for this because the pay was a little bit better.

    I was just wondering my options are here in regard to social welfare? due to starting on a Friday and the bank holiday hadn't a chance to go in to sign off the social welfare initially and my current frame of mind stopped me today. I will go sign off tomorrow I suppose I don't really have a choice not too.

    But if I close my claim, quit the job after a weeks notice and try to reopen a new claim afterwards will that mean I'll be suspended for 9 weeks?

    Or is it a case where I can just walk away now given how short Ive been there and stay on my current claim?? although I have signed some contract papers already.

    It was a foolish thing to do accepting it in the first place, I've already started looking for something else I know a lot of the advice given here may be to just stick it out until I get something I'm comfortable with and I may very well need to do that now, but Ive suffered with depression issues in the past and I can see that happening and I'd like to avoid that if I can


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    This is a very awkward position to be in.

    Your health is more important than anything else. Having said that it's also a hell of a lot easier to get a job when you're currently employed & for that reason alone my advice would be to do nothing about leaving the job for a fixed amount of time set by yourself e.g four weeks. If you adopt the mindset that you only have to work there for that amount of time perhaps it would be that bit easier to deal with things on a day to day basis. During that period do your best to acclimatise yourself, settle in & perform as best as you can, despite the fact that you feel now that the job isn't for you. You may find that after the four weeks you'll feel differently about things & if you don't you'll at least have given it your best shot. You owe both yourself & your new employer that much imo.

    You say that the other job would have been right up your alley, but you can't really be sure that it would unless you were actually in the position so for all you know you may be experiencing a similar problem if you'd taken that job also. Contact the other employer who offered you the job (do this today) & ask them if the position is still open & see if anything transpires from there. Continue to apply for other positions.

    The nine weeks suspension period is really up to nine weeks & is basically at the discretion of the deciding officer at the time. They have to take into account the reason why you gave up work including any supporting documentation that you submit with your application. Even if you spoke to DSP today to ask their advice the probability is that you'll be told that not liking a job isn't a good enough reason not to have to to serve the nine weeks. If you mention health issues they would probably say that you shouldn't be claiming a jobseeker's payment & should be claiming an illness related payment. Speak to your GP & ask him/her if they'd be prepared to give you a letter stating that in their professional opinion that you are fit for work, but that this particular job may contribute to the recurrence of a previous illness & that he/she advised you (or at least supports your decision) not to continue in that particular position. Armed with that letter along with the fact that you gave it four weeks would put you in a stronger position to argue your case to DSP.

    Alternatively you could ask the GP if they'd be prepared to support an application for illness benefit (if you have enough contributions to qualify) should the need arise. You could still wait four weeks, give notice & apply straight away for illness benefit with the support of your GP.

    Obviously your GP wouldn't be able to give you a letter stating you're fit to work (for jobseeker's application) & straight away give you one stating that you're not (for illness benefit) so speak to your GP as soon as possible, as he/she may have an alternative method of dealing with your present predicament & would certainly be better equipped to advise you with your health & wellbeing being the priority.

    Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    This is a very awkward position to be in.

    Your health is more important than anything else. Having said that it's also a hell of a lot easier to get a job when you're currently employed & for that reason alone my advice would be to do nothing about leaving the job for a fixed amount of time set by yourself e.g four weeks. If you adopt the mindset that you only have to work there for that amount of time perhaps it would be that bit easier to deal with things on a day to day basis. During that period do your best to acclimatise yourself, settle in & perform as best as you can, despite the fact that you feel now that the job isn't for you. You may find that after the four weeks you'll feel differently about things & if you don't you'll at least have given it your best shot. You owe both yourself & your new employer that much imo.

    You say that the other job would have been right up your alley, but you can't really be sure that it would unless you were actually in the position so for all you know you may be experiencing a similar problem if you'd taken that job also. Contact the other employer who offered you the job (do this today) & ask them if the position is still open & see if anything transpires from there. Continue to apply for other positions.

    The nine weeks suspension period is really up to nine weeks & is basically at the discretion of the deciding officer at the time. They have to take into account the reason why you gave up work including any supporting documentation that you submit with your application. Even if you spoke to DSP today to ask their advice the probability is that you'll be told that not liking a job isn't a good enough reason not to have to to serve the nine weeks. If you mention health issues they would probably say that you shouldn't be claiming a jobseeker's payment & should be claiming an illness related payment. Speak to your GP & ask him/her if they'd be prepared to give you a letter stating that in their professional opinion that you are fit for work, but that this particular job may contribute to the recurrence of a previous illness & that he/she advised you (or at least supports your decision) not to continue in that particular position. Armed with that letter along with the fact that you gave it four weeks would put you in a stronger position to argue your case to DSP.

    Alternatively you could ask the GP if they'd be prepared to support an application for illness benefit (if you have enough contributions to qualify) should the need arise. You could still wait four weeks, give notice & apply straight away for illness benefit with the support of your GP.

    Obviously your GP wouldn't be able to give you a letter stating you're fit to work (for jobseeker's application) & straight away give you one stating that you're not (for illness benefit) so speak to your GP as soon as possible, as he/she may have an alternative method of dealing with your present predicament & would certainly be better equipped to advise you with your health & wellbeing being the priority.

    Best of luck!
    Thanks for the reply there's a lot of really good information in there, I want to give it a try for least another 3 or 4 weeks for few reasons, mainly so I can find something else quickly if I'm lucky and not need to go back on social welfare at all however the next 2 weeks is still a training period of sorts so I feel like if I don't plan on sticking around in the long term maybe I should leave now so I'm simply not wasting their time and money by training me.

    As far as the other job goes yeah I checked already and its been filled, I was doing the same role with another company in the past and I loved it.


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