Apple tax

darkpagandeath

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0505/698853-apple-tax/

The Government has strongly denied the charges and has vowed to take the Commission to Europe's highest court if it finds against Ireland.

Anyone surprised at the delay ? And I find it odd the government preempting threats of legal action.

I honest to god thought there was going to be a tax on apples.

I wish I was joking.

Buona Fortuna

Deleted User wrote: »

I honest to god thought there was going to be a tax on apples.

I wish I was joking.

I did too

I thought never mind the water we'll all be on the streets for this. They better not even think about Oranges and Bananas.

anncoates

Apple can just rush out an special iPhone 6 turbo plus model to cover the costs of the tax.

IrishTrajan

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Anyone surprised at the delay ? And I find it odd the government preempting threats of legal action.

Nobody complained when the Germans broke the Maastricht Treaty, and nobody is suing the German BND for industrial espionage to my knowledge.

Our tax rates are our business, we rely upon them for investment. I for one hope that we fight tooth and nail, and if they find it against us, that we should try and throw dirt in the EU's faces at every opportunity.

The US investment stands at €250bn and they (and the UK) make up nearly a third of our market. We rely heavily upon continued US investment in Ireland for economic prosperity.

Cushie Butterfield

Deleted User wrote: »

I honest to god thought there was going to be a tax on apples.

I wish I was joking.

Buona Fortuna wrote: »

I did too

I thought never mind the water we'll all be on the streets for this. They better not even think about Oranges and Bananas.

Sshhhh, just in case there are any politicians reading & get any bright ideas!

dodderangler

Thread title misleading
Thought it was about taxing our beloved Granny Smiths

anncoates

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I honest to god thought there was going to be a tax on apples.

I wish I was joking.

Haha.

Wait. You're serious, aren't you.

weisses

I always knew this deal would go pear shaped

They haven't gotten to the core of the issue.

PsuedoSam

is this the same as the guy with the oranges? It was oranges right?

racso1975

Just takes one rotten apple

mackerski

Some stalkers on this thread, I see. I've been pipped to the post.

anncoates

anncoates wrote: »

Haha.

Wait. You're serious, aren't you.

Unfortunately yes.

Cushie Butterfield

PsuedoSam wrote: »

is this the same as the guy with the oranges? It was oranges right?

No, AFAIK that was his father but the apple never falls far from the tree.

darkpagandeath

IrishTrajan wrote: »

Nobody complained when the Germans broke the Maastricht Treaty, and nobody is suing the German BND for industrial espionage to my knowledge.

Our tax rates are our business, we rely upon them for investment. I for one hope that we fight tooth and nail, and if they find it against us, that we should try and throw dirt in the EU's faces at every opportunity.

The US investment stands at €250bn and they (and the UK) make up nearly a third of our market. We rely heavily upon continued US investment in Ireland for economic prosperity.

That's not correct.

mackerski

Samsung has already announced its intention to be sued for back taxes in Ireland, but with a removable battery and SD card slot.

Magico Gonzalez

racso1975 wrote: »

Just takes one rotten apple

..for the whole thing to crumble.

Hopefully the threats to foreign investment are pie in the sky.

An in-cider view to the whole area of tax would useful.

That's all I got. Try the chicken.

Menas

What happens if the courts rule that apple have to pay all these back taxes? Is that a multi-billion euro bonus for Ireland in the short term. But with the long term consequence that some of these tax dodging bastard companies will leave Ireland?

Eugene Norman

darkpagandeath wrote: »

That's not correct.

It's generally correct for corporation tax. The claim here is that we have given Apple favours above and beyond other companies in Ireland. Which is possibly "state aid"

Eugene Norman

Trigger Happy wrote: »

What happens if the courts rule that apple have to pay all these back taxes? Is that a multi-billion euro bonus for Ireland in the short term. But with the long term consequence that some of these tax dodging bastard companies will leave Ireland?

Where would they go within the EU if corporation taxes were equalised?

In any case it's not the 12.5% under threat. It's the added deals that Apple specifically got.

darkpagandeath

Trigger Happy wrote: »

What happens if the courts rule that apple have to pay all these back taxes? Is that a multi-billion euro bonus for Ireland in the short term. But with the long term consequence that some of these tax dodging bastard companies will leave Ireland?

Why would they, They keep saying they are here for the skills of the population.

darkpagandeath

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Where would they go within the EU if corporation taxes were equalised?

In any case it's not the 12.5% under threat. It's the added deals that Apple specifically got.

:pac::pac::pac:

osarusan

My granny Smith will shocked.

It BeeMee

PsuedoSam wrote: »

is this the same as the guy with the oranges? It was oranges right?

No that's the chappie from Del Monte..
I think this case involves William Tell.

Frynge

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

..for the whole thing to crumble.

Hopefully the threats to foreign investment are pie in the sky.

An in-cider view to the whole area of tax would useful.

That's all I got. Try the chicken.

Man, you're trying too hard.

dissed doc

IrishTrajan wrote: »

Nobody complained when the Germans broke the Maastricht Treaty, and nobody is suing the German BND for industrial espionage to my knowledge.

Our tax rates are our business, we rely upon them for investment. I for one hope that we fight tooth and nail, and if they find it against us, that we should try and throw dirt in the EU's faces at every opportunity.

The US investment stands at €250bn and they (and the UK) make up nearly a third of our market. We rely heavily upon continued US investment in Ireland for economic prosperity.

Maybe the government is being forced to develop and encourage small local business like the German Mittelstand instead of making Ireland a vassal state to US corporations, which in the long term takes wealth away. Everyone has seen how the government screws local businesses with taxes, no state support for business owners, and gives massive breaks to foreign multinationals.

Kintarō Hattori

I used to be rather pro-European in my youth but these days I find myself thinking they should just go and fluck off. If it's not one thing it's another. We do seem to fair badly in their hands.

Junkyard Tom

darkpagandeath wrote: »

And I find it odd the government preempting threats of legal action.

Maybe they got a tip-off from an in-cider.





runs

fullstop

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Why would they, They keep saying they are here for the skills of the population.

You believe that? They're here cause they pay **** all tax, they'd be gone pronto

Arbiter of Good Taste

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Why would they, They keep saying they are here for the skills of the population.

We are an island with a crappy infrastructure and a very expensive workforce. It may take Apple a few years to move its business to a cheaper location, but it would sure as hell scare off a portion of MNCs currently considering relocating to Ireland.

Iwasfrozen

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Why would they, They keep saying they are here for the skills of the population.

They can say they're here for the good weather, it doesn't make it any more real.

Eugene Norman

Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »

We are an island with a crappy infrastructure and a very expensive workforce. It may take Apple a few years to move its business to a cheaper location, but it would sure as hell scare off a portion of MNCs currently considering relocating to Ireland.

The infrastructure is fine. Very expensive work forces are also ok for high value technology companies. No point moving to BelaRus unless you only want to hire locals. And if the EU cracks down on this stuff there is nowhere else to go.

Eugene Norman

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

They can say they're here for the good weather, it doesn't make it any more real.

They don't actually say they are here for the skills of the population.