Parnell St Dublin Bike Thieves Everyday

shroom007

Anyone going to Cineworld, Pennys or anywhere round this part of Parnell St/Capel St Dublin be wide with your bikes. Theres a gang of the local scum kids
constantly on the look out for easy targets. Today someone must have left some stuff in a saddle bag( Bit Daft ) and like a plague of cockroaches they were all over it. Guards are invisible round this part of town so lets make it as hard for the scum as possible or a least dis-able the brakes before leaving your bike.

Aard

The tail end of Parnell Street just before Capel Street is seriously dodgy. Wouldn't be too keen on walking through there when it's quiet.

spurious

Look in Cumberland Street market (The Hill/Tuggers) early Saturday mornings for 'missing' bikes.

shroom007

In fairness the area s not too bad even on to North King St and any problems come from the same group of skanks. It was a lot worst when the Delux bar was there before the Black Sheep, a scumhole of unimaginable proportions where some of the patrons were so inbred they were their own parents.I pity the poor sods who have them now and hope the never return

shroom007

spurious wrote: »

Look in Cumberland Street market (The Hill/Tuggers) early Saturday mornings for 'missing' bikes.

why go all the way there when theres a huge second hand bike yard (Bikes for the Community) right opposite where loads of bikes get stolen ( From the Community) the Guards seem to do any thing to avoid walking by the place. Deer Stalker and a pipe maybe or Colombo could crack the case

spurious

Well, it's not that far away (just the far side of O'Connell Street), but from having taught some of the gentleman thieves, I know that's where many of the bikes end up.

imme

Aard wrote: »

The tail end of Parnell Street just before Capel Street is seriously dodgy. Wouldn't be too keen on walking through there when it's quiet.

I don't think it's that dangerous, some small shops and an old folks complex, it is usually quiet around there.

imme

I have had three bikes and a wheel stolen over the years.

It is such a sad sad thing that we still have such crime going on to such a degree, from vandalism to theft of bike parts to theft of bikes.

Yet there doesn't seem to be any Garda commitment to doing anything about it. It cannot be 'rocket science', just police work, SURELY.

although,
http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/man-caught-trying-to-steal-garda-bicycle-31114509.html


The Gardai do also have a leaflet
http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/CP%20Info%20Sheet%20-%20VS4%20-%20Bicycles-2010-01-11.pdf

Garda statistics that are produced annually still detail 'theft of pedal cycles', this seems Dickensian or Flann O'Brien type stuff.

Over 2,000 bikes are stolen every year.

People involved in bike thefts are obviously involved in general criminal activities, I think it is worth the while of the Gardai giving them some attention.

Many other countries that I have been to where you find bikes everywhere, Germany, Austria, Japan, don't look to have the same problems, people don't have elaborate/very secure locks on their bikes in general in these places, why is Ireland different.

Sacksian

spurious wrote: »

Look in Cumberland Street market (The Hill/Tuggers) early Saturday mornings for 'missing' bikes.

Slightly off-topic, but we've always called this "Stones" market. If you live in Dublin, it's definitely worth visiting - for cultural interest, rather than as a decent market! Any time I've passed through in recent years, it's been mostly piles of **** laid out on the ground, and knocked-off stuff. My brother retrieved his bike from there when we were kids. I think the exchange was fairly amicable.

kumate_champ07

those gangs of kids have been around for years, usually 14-16 yrs of age, always going up and down checking bikes for cheap locks . not much the gardai can do, just use a good lock.

anncoates

Aard wrote: »

The tail end of Parnell Street just before Capel Street is seriously dodgy. Wouldn't be too keen on walking through there when it's quiet.

It's actually OK. I used to work there. Not the most sightly that said.

Would definitely be leaving my bike in a secure lock up somewhere though.

Lovely Bloke

anncoates wrote: »

Not the most sightly that said.

you, or the area?

anncoates

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

you, or the area?

Unlike the area, I appear to be in reverse gentrification these days.

not yet

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

those gangs of kids have been around for years, usually 14-16 yrs of age, always going up and down checking bikes for cheap locks . not much the gardai can do, just use a good lock.

I had to laugh when I read this, No kind of lock will keep these little cnuts from taking a bike if they want it..

Streetwalker

Aard wrote: »

The tail end of Parnell Street just before Capel Street is seriously dodgy. Wouldn't be too keen on walking through there when it's quiet.

Don't agree with that at all. That area is pretty okay tbh.

shroom007

Befor XMass saw one of the students from the language school running up and grabbing a scumbag mid thieve after a little bit of a tussle the scumbag got to the other side of the road and had to check to shout back at the fella "you shoulda got a better lock" unfortunately when he was going backwards he was almost creamed by a taxi coming up Parnell st, so close but he survived.

OleRodrigo

I've parked my bike almost daily in that area using a D Lock and never had a problem.

A good lock is key - and that is one that will take too much time to cut through. Most of the bike thieves frequenting that bike area and ( the one further up outside the centra ) are opportunists. They walk past with a wire cutters hidden in their jacket looking for something they can cut through in a few seconds. Any longer and they risk drawing attention to themselves ( usually a photo taken on a phone and send to the guards ).

A good D lock will need different tools, the sort that the local opportunists cannot carry around with them. These are usually used by organised thieves who patrol in Vans.

Aard

Must be just me so. It's the only place in Dublin where somebody has tried to mug me. Which has completely coloured my views of the place! Incidentally I do spend a lot of time in that neck of the woods so it could just be the odds were stacked against me. I still see a lot of shady characters passing through that street and into the markets area, Halston St etc.

shroom007

The Capel Pub on the way to Halston st is a bit of a scum magnet when the lads from the market are gone alright and there was 3-4 skank/drunk/sc*m having a public meeting in the lane behind capel st last night but no worse than anywhere. Just found out a mates wifes bike was stolen on Henry St the other day, brazen Cnuts

OleRodrigo

There are some unsavory characters. There is a few homeless shelters in the area with the attendant drug and alcohol problems.

But for the most part people go about their business quietly, there's rarely any trouble except for occasional junkies shouting at each other. There is a large population of foreign expats and students living and working in the area that give it a nice feel, imo.

Anyway the point is crime when it happens is mostly opportunistic.

Grid.

Having social housing in the immediate city centre is ridiculous for a start.

tricky D

Soapboxing and personal feuding posts removed. Both users in this case should not post again in this thread or bans will follow.

Mesrine65

Master Lock Street Cuffs are well worth the investsment.

shroom007

Nice

Subpopulus

not yet wrote: »

I had to laugh when I read this, No kind of lock will keep these little cnuts from taking a bike if they want it..

Nah, kids like these usually only have a mid-sized bolt-cutters and are limited to cheap cable locks. They're not running about with a battery-powered angle-grinder so a bike locked with at least one strong lock should be enough to deter them.

Basically, any lock can be broken, but usually the expensive heavy-duty ones can only be dealt with by more organised gangs dedicated to stealing high-end bikes. I had a bike locked up at the top of Capel Street for years and no harm came of it. I always double locked it though. A U-lock and a cable, even though it was a relatively cheap bike. The main thing you're looking for is deterrent factor. Two locks of different types, ideally one U-Lock and a good quality cable lock, should make it too much effort to rob the bike.

Muahahaha

Agree with the above. I've had an attempt on my bike recently on Dame St at about 1am on a Saturday with hundreds of people walking by it. Their bolt cutters barely made a dent in my lock so my guess is they were just out to steal whatever bike had a lock attached that could easily be cut through. When they realised mine wasnt an easy task they moved on, no doubt to rob someones bike attached with one of those €3 Lidl cable locks.

not yet

Grid. wrote: »

Having social housing in the immediate city centre is ridiculous for a start.

How so..?

Where you like it to be..

power pants

Typical usual over reacting nonsense being spouted in this thread

Parnell street is in the city centre -no surprise bikes get stolen. Its also worth noting this happens all over the city centre and surrounding areas. If you have a bike and its not properly locked/secured, dont be surprised if it is stolen.

Also what proof is there regarding the bikes in the community place? Its pretty pathetic to be able to bad mouth based on what exactly?

not yet

Muahahaha wrote: »

Agree with the above. I've had an attempt on my bike recently on Dame St at about 1am on a Saturday with hundreds of people walking by it. Their bolt cutters barely made a dent in my lock so my guess is they were just out to steal whatever bike had a lock attached that could easily be cut through. When they realised mine wasnt an easy task they moved on, no doubt to rob someones bike attached with one of those €3 Lidl cable locks.

Funny you should mention Lidi Cable locks, My daughter being the unwise street person that she is locked her bike outside smock alley with one and had it swiped...

The look of disbelief on her face was funny..

It's not fcuking easy leaving your bike locked, I have a good road bike and it's a job in itself locking it, saddle, taking off front wheel etc..

SilverLiningOK

The Dublin Cycling Campaign has just released the results of a survey that they conducted last year in the form of an infographic. They estimate that at least 20K bicycles were stolen in 2013. Looks like a big problem.

http://www.dublincycling.com/cycling/bike-theft-survey-results

tampopo

Yeah, I had reason to park my bike up at Parnell Square and Parnell Street a few times since Christmas and felt a bit uneasy about it. But in that survey it said the place where I would usually park my bike, beside Penneys, is the hotspot for theft in the area. So you never know.

A good lock, and two locks if possible.

endacl

Mesrine65 wrote: »

Master Lock Street Cuffs are well worth the investsment.

As a second lock. Having just one lock on a bike is daft.

the groutch

yep, always use two locks, with at least one of them going through both wheel and frame.

black_frosch

OleRodrigo wrote: »

I've parked my bike almost daily in that area using a D Lock and never had a problem.

A good lock is key - and that is one that will take too much time to cut through. Most of the bike thieves frequenting that bike area and ( the one further up outside the centra ) are opportunists. They walk past with a wire cutters hidden in their jacket looking for something they can cut through in a few seconds. Any longer and they risk drawing attention to themselves ( usually a photo taken on a phone and send to the guards ).

A good D lock will need different tools, the sort that the local opportunists cannot carry around with them. These are usually used by organised thieves who patrol in Vans.

Some pics from the web here for you but I've seen the same U-Lock in Henry Street last winter

RebelButtMunch

Mesrine65 wrote: »

Master Lock Street Cuffs are well worth the investsment.

I reckon picking up the bike and twisting it would provide the leverage to snap that lock. A second lock to stop that would do the trick.

loyatemu

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

I reckon picking up the bike and twisting it would provide the leverage to snap that lock. A second lock to stop that would do the trick.

I thought the same then I looked at their website - the link in the centre rotates so you can't lever it off. They actually look like a pretty good idea if you're not worried about having your wheels nicked.

Mesrine65

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

I reckon picking up the bike and twisting it would provide the leverage to snap that lock. A second lock to stop that would do the trick.

Twisting would make no difference as the adjoining chain to the cuffs rotates 360 degrees by design.

OleRodrigo

black_frosch wrote: »

Some pics from the web here for you but I've seen the same U-Lock in Henry Street last winter

These are U Locks. A U lock will typically have more space between it and the frame, giving leverage to break it, as those photos illustrate.

A D lock has much less space between it, the frame and the rail it is locked to, giving little opportunity to break the lock with leverage.

OleRodrigo

black_frosch wrote: »

Well.. okay

Can you tell the difference between the two locks ? Nonetheless, Ive been using a D Lock for years, in that area, without any issues, on a bike just under 2 grand.

omcgowan

Mine was stolen off a 1st floor balcony in Chapelizod on Friday.
Sawed through the lock while i was asleep in the bedroom.

Scott Speedster 60 - Black and Yellow with Shimano peddals
Keep an ear out if you can!

spurious

omcgowan wrote: »

Mine was stolen off a 1st floor balcony in Chapelizod on Friday.
Sawed through the lock while i was asleep in the bedroom.

Scott Speedster 60 - Black and Yellow with Shimano peddals
Keep an ear out if you can!

Get up early tomorrow (6am-ish) and go have a look in the 'Hill' market (also known as the Tuggers) on North Cumberland Street. Numerous examples of what look like brand new bicycles on sale for bargain prices with the guards apparently doing nothing about them. Plenty used bikes too.

imme

omcgowan wrote: »

Mine was stolen off a 1st floor balcony in Chapelizod on Friday.
Sawed through the lock while i was asleep in the bedroom.

Scott Speedster 60 - Black and Yellow with Shimano peddals
Keep an ear out if you can!

pure scum :mad:
have you got insurance,
if not the development or management co. might have insurance that covers it.

athtrasna

imme wrote: »

if not the development or management co. might have insurance that covers it.

More likely to have a rule that bikes can't be stored on balconies