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€92.50 per hour University Job!!

  • 02-05-2015 4:35pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭


    I just found this job advertisement very interesting.

    http://www.universityvacancies.com/university-limerick/problem-based-learning-tutor-panel-call-required-2422

    the rate of pay is €92.50 in the University of Limerick for a Problem Based Learning Tutor in the Graduate Entry Medical School.

    The only requirement for the above job advertisement is to have a medical degree.

    The standard rate of pay for a junior doctor in his first year post graduating from college is €15.31 per hour.

    This is an incredulous example of waste in the Irish University setting.

    Lecturers with PhDs would not be on this level of money.

    This is an insane rate of pay. this is what our taxes are paying for.

    What does a PBL tutor even do. My understanding was they don't teach anything and merely facilitate the session.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    But do they have a union?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Maybe there isn't that many hours involved hence the high rate? Or it could simply be a typo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭bearhugs


    Sounds like it's €92.50 an hour for just a few hours a week, not for 40 hours or more. I do definitely agree that Junior doctors should be paid more though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    But do they have a union?

    I'm sure they have. They're not illegal yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Only a medical degree? So that's just the near perfect Leaving Cert, six/seven years of study and a couple of years working 90 hour weeks then.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Ad is not worded very well but I'd be willing to bet that it's per hour of PBL not per hour of work. Given that they're required to assess students and contribute to curriculum development I think you'll find that the effective rate of pay is a fraction of €92.50. Probably closer to 18.50 per hour but you would have to know the position well to accurately calculate the effective rate of pay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    It's only €40 an hour when the taxman gets at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭Celticfire



    The only requirement for the above job advertisement is to have a medical degree.



    You going to apply OP? Or are you overqualified?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    €92.50? Should've came to me son, would've got ya at least twice that for focks sake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Jim79


    5hrs student contact time per week and the odd meeting with the staff


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    The only requirement for the above job advertisement is to have a medical degree.

    You should pick one up and apply. Have many kellogs stickers have you now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Actually the job requires a medical degree & a formal qualification in education. So thats college for another year or two after the medical degree.

    Sure its only a decade of your life gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Mr_Muffin


    Is this even a worthy topic? What is the problem with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    Its Temporary so likely a contract rate!

    What type of Professor are you OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Only a medical degree? So that's just the near perfect Leaving Cert, six/seven years of study and a couple of years working 90 hour weeks then.

    I think the point was they should have a PhD as well. It should also stipulate what degree grade is required e.g first or high 2.1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Also, graduate entry medicine is financed entirely by the students. Fees in UL for Grad Med is ~€14,000 per year so this isn't being financed by the taxpayer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    What's up doc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Smell of jealousy in here.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    I just found this job advertisement very interesting.

    http://www.universityvacancies.com/university-limerick/problem-based-learning-tutor-panel-call-required-2422

    the rate of pay is €92.50 in the University of Limerick for a Problem Based Learning Tutor in the Graduate Entry Medical School.

    The only requirement for the above job advertisement is to have a medical degree.

    The standard rate of pay for a junior doctor in his first year post graduating from college is €15.31 per hour.

    This is an incredulous example of waste in the Irish University setting.

    Lecturers with PhDs would not be on this level of money.

    This is an insane rate of pay. this is what our taxes are paying for.

    What does a PBL tutor even do. My understanding was they don't teach anything and merely facilitate the session.

    Based on 90 minutes of playing on Saturday and possibly another 18.5 hours of training during the week to prepare for that 90 minutes, Wayne Rooney gets paid £12,500 per hour for kicking a ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I've had lecturers on that money. They're generally very successful and experienced in their field. They lecture one course on a contractual basis.

    For example my finance lecturer for my masters only taught the masters class. the rest of the time they were a financial consultant for huge multinationals.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,577 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Egginacup wrote: »
    Based on 90 minutes of playing on Saturday and possibly another 18.5 hours of training during the week to prepare for that 90 minutes, Wayne Rooney gets paid £12,500 per hour for kicking a ball.
    Actually, no. Lecturers only get paid for contact hours, not for note preparation, class preparation, staff meetings, etc. So Wayne Rooney gets £166,666 per hour for being on the field (assuming her plays that week).

    Now, given that here's a whole bunch of them on the field at the same time, Rooney's contact time is going to be a lot less than 90 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭dmc17


    Mr_Muffin wrote: »
    Is this even a worthy topic? What is the problem with it?

    OP doesn't meet the requirements to apply :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Diane Selwyn


    Actually the job requires a medical degree & a formal qualification in education. So thats college for another year or two after the medical degree.

    Sure its only a decade of your life gone.

    its no small achievement but it does also seem that folk who spend 20+ years in the pursuit of academic achievement tend to end up working in academia and teaching a subject they've little or no practical experience in (and so would I for that kind of money)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Level 5 Vegan


    Back when I did PBL I dunno what rate the facilitators got, but I think they were paid for about 6 hours per week including sessions and preperation, so that'd explain the rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,310 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    I once got £25 per hour in the late 90s for teaching transition year students for a few hours once a week and I wasn't actually a teacher, just specialised in the particular subject the school wanted taught.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    Perhaps the OP should apply and get the big bucks rather than complaining?

    Like all of these things, the rate is for the actual hour of delivery, which would involve several hours of preparation as well.
    In the medical field people are well paid, my GP charges €45 for a consultation of 15 mins. The only point the OP may have is that there are lecturers in other subjects who do not enjoy the medical rate.


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