British Tory MP says they have candidates "in Ireland".

MakeEmLaugh

A few weeks ago, British Tory MP Rehman Chisti was on a Channel 4 show, and boasted of how "in Ireland, we have the first ever Sikh candidate standing for the Conservative Party" (1 min 35 secs into this video).

He was referring to Amandeep Singh Bhogal, who is running as a Conservative candidate in Upper Bann.

While there are many that will argue that the Upper Bann is in Ireland (and many, especially unionists, who would argue that it isn't) does anyone else find it odd that a British politicians would say this?

It makes you wonder if he knows that most of Ireland isn't in the United Kingdom any more.

The_Valeyard

Meh, he means the North,

more annoying when the British refer to us as 'Southern Ireland'.

dxhound2005

If you didn't get the answers you are looking for in the Politics forum, I doubt if you will get any further enlightenment on AH.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057411801&page=2

Harry Palmr

He's not wrong and yet he's not quite right.

/next!

cloud493

Either that, or people love finding things to be annoyed about, when its a mistake, slip of the tongue, whatever.

fedor.2.

dxhound2005 wrote: »

If you didn't get the answers you are looking for in the Politics forum, I doubt if you will get any further enlightenment on AH.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057411801&page=2

good work, detective.

Junkyard Tom

MakeEmLaugh wrote: »

While there are many that will argue that the Upper Bann is in Ireland

It's not an argument it's a fact.

and many, especially unionists, who would argue that it isn't

Denial of reality.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

MakeEmLaugh wrote: »

A few weeks ago, British Tory MP Rehman Chisti was on a Channel 4 show, and boasted of how "in Ireland, we have the first ever Sikh candidate standing for the Conservative Party" (1 min 35 secs into this video).

He was referring to Amandeep Singh Bhogal, who is running as a Conservative candidate in Upper Bann.

While there are many that will argue that the Upper Bann is in Ireland (and many, especially unionists, who would argue that it isn't) does anyone else find it odd that a British politicians would say this?

It makes you wonder if he knows that most of Ireland isn't in the United Kingdom any more.

Upper Bann, unless they've moved it since I last looked at a map, is indeed in Ireland.

/thread.

my friend

Are we suitably outraged yet?

Cold War Kid

A lot of people in England, Scotland and Wales don't have the first clue that Northern Ireland is considered part of the United Kingdom - they just see it as Ireland.

Arsemageddon

800 years!

Them dirty Brits, Bowsies - the lot of them

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Cold War Kid wrote: »

A lot of people in England, Scotland and Wales don't have the first clue that Northern Ireland is considered part of the United Kingdom - they just see it as Ireland.

No "considered" about it - it is.

The full title is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", if you'll pardon the grammatical error.

Fratton Fred

But is he Protestant Sikh, or Catholic Sikh?

pablomakaveli

Why post this exact same thread when it's already been posted somewhere else on Boards?

FluffyAngel

CREAK..... welcome shinners ..shut the door ,its draughty..

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Fratton Fred wrote: »

But is he Protestant Sikh, or Catholic Sikh?

Neither - he's from a little known sect called the Hidyn --

... and I've already got my coat, thank you and good night!

dxhound2005

Cold War Kid wrote: »

A lot of people in England, Scotland and Wales don't have the first clue that Northern Ireland is considered part of the United Kingdom - they just see it as Ireland.

Tommy Gorman the RTE NI correspondent doesn't know that Northern Ireland is part of the UK. In his reports he constantly refers to "The UK" when he means Great Britain.

He is not the only one who should know better, either.

Cold War Kid

my friend wrote: »

Are we suitably outraged yet?

I see far more people looking for outraged people than actual outraged people.

FluffyAngel wrote: »

CREAK..... welcome shinners ..shut the door ,its draughty..

Would "Shinners" not be happy about the area being referred to as Ireland?

MakeEmLaugh

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Tommy Gorman the RTE NI correspondent doesn't know that Northern Ireland is part of the UK. In his reports he constantly refers to "The UK" when he means Great Britain.

He is not the only one who should know better, either.

Few Irish people know, the only reason the word 'United' is in 'the United Kingdom' is because of Ireland.

In 1801, the Kingdom of Great Britain and the Kingdom of Ireland were amalgamated to create 'the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland'. It was the first time the term 'United Kingdom' had been used to refer to the two islands.

If Northern Ireland ever left the UK (before the likes of Scotland) then there would no longer be a need for the term 'United'. The country could just revert to 'Great Britain'.

So when people say things like 'travelling from Northern Ireland to the UK', it's like saying 'travelling from Alaska to the US'.

kneemos

Cold War Kid wrote: »

I see far more people looking for outraged people than actual outraged people.

Would "Shinners" not be happy about the area being referred to as Ireland?

Would shinners chuck wood like a wood chuck should?

dxhound2005

MakeEmLaugh wrote: »

Few Irish people know, the only reason the word 'United' is in 'the United Kingdom' is because of Ireland.

In 1801, the Kingdom of Great Britain and the Kingdom of Ireland were amalgamated to create 'the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland'. It was the first time the term 'United Kingdom' had been used to refer to the two islands.

If Northern Ireland ever left the UK (before the likes of Scotland) then there would no longer be a need for the term 'United'. The country could just revert to 'Great Britain'.

So when people say things like 'travelling from Northern Ireland to the UK', it's like saying 'travelling from Alaska to the US'.

I think it would be a good idea to educate the masses by insisting that the UK abbreviation be rendered in full on every occasion, UKoGBaNI.

Duckworth_Luas

MakeEmLaugh wrote: »

If Northern Ireland ever left the UK (before the likes of Scotland) then there would no longer be a need for the term 'United'. The country could just revert to 'Great Britain'.

The Act of Union in 1800 merged the parliaments of the Kingdom of Ireland and the existing United Kingdom of Great Britain. If Northern Ireland left the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland it would revert to being the United Kingdom of Great Britain.

This is primary school stuff.

MakeEmLaugh

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

The Act of Union in 1800 merged the parliaments of the Kingdom of Ireland and the existing United Kingdom of Great Britain. If Northern Ireland left the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland it would revert to being the United Kingdom of Great Britain.

This is primary school stuff.

Wrong.

It was simply called the Kingdom of Great Britain until 1801.

Duckworth_Luas

MakeEmLaugh wrote: »

Wrong.

It was simply called the Kingdom of Great Britain until 1801.

Nope, it was officially the United Kingdom of Great Britain. Even a backbench Tory MP would know that.

G_R

You've already had a thread about this in politics OP, which is where the thread should be