abbey 2100 tank

cz527

Looking at a abbey 2100 gallon tank it is 02 and only thing I can see that is ring is the paint is very poor the man in the garage said he will have it resprayed and back like new for 7 grand it has 28.1 26 wheels 2 fill point 8 thousand pump sprung drop bar new splash plate and suction hose and fully looked over should I be afraid for how old it is could it be rotten on the inside where I can't see

Sacrolyte

cz527 wrote: »

Looking at a abbey 2100 gallon tank it is 02 and only thing I can see that is ring is the paint is very poor the man in the garage said he will have it resprayed and back like new for 7 grand it has 28.1 26 wheels 2 fill point 8 thousand pump sprung drop bar new splash plate and suction hose and fully looked over should I be afraid for how old it is could it be rotten on the inside where I can't see

13 years old? I'd be slow on paying 7K.

cz527

Sacrolyte wrote: »

13 years old? I'd be slow on paying 7K.

What would you think more like 5500 or 6000

MFdaveIreland

8k pump fit for 2100? i know the belmac 1600 has an 8 k pump, takes around 3 mins to fill. will be longer on that yoke your looking at .

fair enough price if shes fresh paint, no rust and decent tyres, i would ask if the vanes in the pump have been refurbed also.

i would have her pumping water , that will tell if shes leaking or not, as slurry isnt so handy for finding holes.

cz527

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

8k pump fit for 2100? i know the belmac 1600 has an 8 k pump, takes around 3 mins to fill. will be longer on that yoke your looking at .

fair enough price if shes fresh paint, no rust and decent tyres, i would ask if the vanes in the pump have been refurbed also.

i would have her pumping water , that will tell if shes leaking or not, as slurry isnt so handy for finding holes.

Good advice I will ask him can we fill it with a load of water to see what she is like and how the pump is working vacum wize

Nekarsulm

Make sure the brakes are working correctly. If they aren't, make him put them right. Not unknown for the shoes to be removed completely.............

cz527

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Make sure the brakes are working correctly. If they aren't, make him put them right. Not unknown for the shoes to be removed completely.............

He did tell me they are fine but I'd be a lot happier if he would still put new breaks on her.a tank that old how much life would be left in her

MFdaveIreland

good man .


good luck with it

White Clover

cz527 wrote: »

He did tell me they are fine but I'd be a lot happier if he would still put new breaks on her.a tank that old how much life would be left in her

Op, Could u stretch to a new tank ? Put the payments over 5 years and the tank still be good for 10 more after its paid for. Worth pricing around the finance houses to see what it would cost you. You know what you have then.

cz527

White Clover wrote: »

Op, Could u stretch to a new tank ? Put the payments over 5 years and the tank still be good for 10 more after its paid for. Worth pricing around the finance houses to see what it would cost you. You know what you have then.

I would like to buy new but I both a new krone mower for 9 and traded in my old 390 and gave 11 with it so money fairly tite at the mint

Reggie.

cz527 wrote: »

I would like to buy new but I both a new krone mower for 9 and traded in my old 390 and gave 11 with it so money fairly tite at the mint

All new machines?

cute geoge

That tank more then likely has its best times seen ,I would recommend a hispec 1600 gallon ,jurop pump Russian tyres more likely see one off a farmer for €4 k. I would be wary of the abbey ,they seemed to rust a lot from that era

Limestone Cowboy

cute geoge wrote: »

That tank more then likely has its best times seen ,I would recommend a hispec 1600 gallon ,jurop pump Russian tyres more likely see one off a farmer for €4 k. I would be wary of the abbey ,they seemed to rust a lot from that era

I agree re the hi spec. A friend bought a 02 2350 before Christmas and I gave him a had tidying it up and spraying it. The barrel on it was like new, there was a couple of small spots of surface rust but no rot anywhere, perfect inside in it aswell. Very well made tank with a lot of years left in it yet.

cz527

Reggie. wrote: »

All new machines?

Mower is bran new yes but the tractor isent

cz527

cute geoge wrote: »

That tank more then likely has its best times seen ,I would recommend a hispec 1600 gallon ,jurop pump Russian tyres more likely see one off a farmer for €4 k. I would be wary of the abbey ,they seemed to rust a lot from that era

1600 gallon tank would be a option for me to as most of my land is around my farm I'd have around 20 acres 4mills way tho

Sacrolyte

07 abbey 2250 on done deal today for €6,500.

Muckit

I seen a contractor going with a span new 3500gal galvanised major. He must think he's on the American plains. Such a sow of a yoke.

Nekarsulm

Im told a contractor down the road has bought a tanker with a Bauer pump and a mixer both attached. Uses it for pumping slurry with the umbilical pipes. Will post a picture when I get close to it.

Reggie.

Muckit wrote: »

I seen a contractor going with a span new 3500gal galvanised major. He must think he's on the American plains. Such a sow of a yoke.

Hardly a FIAT 130 in front of it

Grueller

Never handle it Reggie. Lad near here has a Redrock 3000. Ok if you have dry land and can lose most of the load before needing to turn on the headland.

Reggie.

Grueller wrote: »

Never handle it Reggie. Lad near here has a Redrock 3000. Ok if you have dry land and can lose most of the load before needing to turn on the headland.

That's some weight to be stopping

MFdaveIreland

Contractor in fermanagh direction has an nc 4000/ 4500 not exactly sure. think he may use it for ferry work and field work sometimes

Reggie.

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

Contractor in fermanagh direction has an nc 4000/ 4500 not exactly sure. think he may use it for ferry work and field work sometimes

Most of them real big tankers are for ferry work

Muckit

Reggie. wrote: »

Hardly a FIAT 130 in front of it

No Reggie. Wait for it. You'll cream your pants...... a hot new massey!!!!!

Don't know model number but I'd say she's easily 200hp. He was moving so quick couldn't get a pic for you.

Reggie.

Muckit wrote: »

No Reggie. Wait for it. You'll cream your pants...... a hot new massey!!!!!

Don't know model number but I'd say she's easily 200hp. He was moving so quick couldn't get a pic for you.

I demand a photo...GOD DAMMIT MAN

Where was the camera :mad:

MFdaveIreland

Reggie. wrote: »

Most of them real big tankers are for ferry work

Yep, they probably are, but i know people who spread with twin axle 3500 herron tankers in the field .

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Reggie.

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

Yep, they probably are, but i know people who spread with twin axle 3500 herron tankers in the field .

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Not around here ya wouldn't

dar31

Contractor got an abbey 3500 tandem last year, was afraid to let it on the farm with the size of it, it done less damage and more manoverable than his 2600 majors

MFdaveIreland

@Reggie, here ya go

Reggie.

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

@Reggie, here ya go

Ain't my land to let them out on

Could you imagine trying to explain to the boss why that tanker was buried to her axles in the middle of a field

farmerjj

What is the price of a new 2100/2250 abbey,would it be worth thinking new instead of spending 7+ on a second hand tank

MickeyShtyles

farmerjj wrote: »

What is the price of a new 2100/2250 abbey,would it be worth thinking new instead of spending 7+ on a second hand tank

Depends on how bells or whistles you want!!

Reggie.

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Depends on how bells or whistles you want!!

You can get bells for tankers....really!!!!

mythos110

Looking at a 2200 rossmore at the mo. Full galvanised - chassis and all. coming in slightly cheaper than a painted hyspec or abbey. Have had an 1100gln rossmore for 25 years and a 1600 for 20 years with no expense, so really cant fault them

Milked out

dar31 wrote: »

Contractor got an abbey 3500 tandem last year, was afraid to let it on the farm with the size of it, it done less damage and more manoverable than his 2600 majors

Neighbour got a Connor 3500gln tandem axle as well, would say it's easier on the tractor when on the road as well.

Aska

Have a NC 2250 ordered this few weeks, trading in a 1600 2004 Hi-Spec, costing 10800euros so I am getting 5200euros of a trade in. TFM only offering 3500euros trade in against an Abbey.

Anyway. I was with my advisor yesterday re: SFP and he said that tankers MAY be part of the next TAMS2 which should have more announced in the coming weeks so he suggested I hold off and see how itplays out.

Sorry OP, kinda went solo there but maybe if that does occur then maybe you can avail of the 60% grant that is being mentioned.

farmerjj

mythos110 wrote: »

Looking at a 2200 rossmore at the mo. Full galvanised - chassis and all. coming in slightly cheaper than a painted hyspec or abbey. Have had an 1100gln rossmore for 25 years and a 1600 for 20 years with no expense, so really cant fault them

Sorry for been nosey but what does the rossmore come in at?

mythos110

Not sure on the straight price.

Dealing direct with them, which we have done for a number of years - have tractor from them etc. you're talking ~€14.5k for 2200 with trade in of 25yr old 1100 gln with perished tyres and no pipe.
Priced abbey and hyspec for painted 2250 was coming in around 16.5k straight plus about 2.5k to galvanise.

Basically I'd say the rossmore is a similar price galv as abbey and hyspec are painted...

blue5000

mythos110 wrote: »

Not sure on the straight price.

Dealing direct with them, which we have done for a number of years - have tractor from them etc. you're talking ~€14.5k for 2200 with trade in of 25yr old 1100 gln with perished tyres and no pipe.
Priced abbey and hyspec for painted 2250 was coming in around 16.5k straight plus about 2.5k to galvanise.

Basically I'd say the rossmore is a similar price galv as abbey and hyspec are painted...

Are the pumps and tyres the same? You wouldn't be long spending 3-4 grand under a tank these days. Have to agree with you on build quality of Rossmore tanks, they're built to last.

cz527

Aska wrote: »

Have a NC 2250 ordered this few weeks, trading in a 1600 2004 Hi-Spec, costing 10800euros so I am getting 5200euros of a trade in. TFM only offering 3500euros trade in against an Abbey.

Anyway. I was with my advisor yesterday re: SFP and he said that tankers MAY be part of the next TAMS2 which should have more announced in the coming weeks so he suggested I hold off and see how itplays out.

Sorry OP, kinda went solo there but maybe if that does occur then maybe you can avail of the 60% grant that is being mentioned.

Haven't herd of any grants coming for tankers anyway of finding out be 4 I go down the road of a second hand one

dungfly

What's the benefit of a sprung drawbar? Is it only for long haul road trips?

Quoted €300 for wide angle pto connection to tanker, is this necessary?

Mad4simmental

dungfly wrote: »

What's the benefit of a sprung drawbar? Is it only for long haul road trips?

Quoted €300 for wide angle pto connection to tanker, is this necessary?

The sprung drawbar saves allot of jumping in the tractor. When the tanker takes into a bounce it works aginst the bounce.

The wide angle pto will have a much higher tolerance to working at an angle in a tight yard or slight bends in the field. It's worth the extra €300 IMO

Reggie.

Mad4simmental wrote: »

The sprung drawbar saves allot of jumping in the tractor. When the tanker takes into a bounce it works aginst the bounce.

The wide angle pto will have a much higher tolerance to working at an angle in a tight yard or slight bends in the field. It's worth the extra €300 IMO

+1

Zr105

dungfly wrote: »

What's the benefit of a sprung drawbar? Is it only for long haul road trips?

Quoted €300 for wide angle pto connection to tanker, is this necessary?

Both definitely worth the money, it's amazing how little of a bend will have the shaft rattling away without the wide angle. And at times you wouldn't think the drawbar is doing a lot until you look back and watch the spring flexing, certainly when you get used to it and then go back to a solid drawbar you certainly miss it anyways

farmerjj

How does a wide angle pto differ from a normal one??

Limestone Cowboy

farmerjj wrote: »

How does a wide angle pto differ from a normal one??

It's a double universal joint as far as I know.

tanko

farmerjj wrote: »

How does a wide angle pto differ from a normal one??

With a wide angle pto you can keep the pto on when you're going round a corner and don't have to turn the pto off like with a normal shaft.

MickeyShtyles

tanko wrote: »

With a wide angle pto you can keep the pto on when you're going round a corner and don't have to turn the pto off like with a normal shaft.

Or even take it off.....

cz527

How do people find pulling them on the road is a 7740 newholland and there would be a full set of weights but there be a few hills on the way to the feild on the road