Dr. Steelhammer vs Bryant Jennings, Madison Square garden

badabing106

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Klitschko might be looking to put on a devastating show tonight for American audiences. Jennings looking to rise to the occasion in front of home crowd.

Scheduled in ring at 11.05 pm new York time, 4am Irish time

Henno30

Wonder if Haymon will ever let Wilder near Wlad?

Talib Fiasco

Wilder is out injured atm but is due back in a few months for a tuneup. I'd like him to face a few top contenders first before fighting Wlad although hus only chance us still to catch him in the first round which I think is very possible

ikeano29

Good to see klitscko out of his comfort zone though tonight. Nice to see him getting a scare and a few blows from Jennings getting in

Frank Bullitt

Would love to see Wlad do a number on Fury after this one, just to shut him up finally.

ikeano29

Gintonious wrote: »

Would love to see Wlad do a number on Fury after this one, just to shut him up finally.

Not gonna happen, Fury's the bigger man, very awkward to fight against, better fighter on the inside and wlad won't be able to use his leaning or holding tacktics against fury. But wlads a more accurate and stronger puncher but definetly won't do a number on fury. Good fight.

Frank Bullitt

ikeano29 wrote: »

Not gonna happen, Fury's the bigger man, very awkward to fight against, better fighter on the inside and wlad won't be able to use his leaning or holding tacktics against fury. But wlads a more accurate and stronger puncher but definetly won't do a number on fury. Good fight.

Is that a joke? Wlad would have beaten Fury and Chizora at the same time when they fought.

Fury would have to get past Wlads hydraulic jab to utilize this better inside game you mentioned, and also stop that glass chin of his getting caught. Wlad is also still fast with his hands even at 39.

The hill to climb would be for Fury.

I see it as a comfortable 12 round decision for Wlad.

Talib Fiasco

I think Fury would beat Wlad as well. Fury is faster than Wlad and won't get bullied. He could get caught by a power punch though. Otherwise I think he'd win a lopsided decision. I also think Mike Perez would beat him and Povetkin could KO him if the referee was willing to enforce the law this time round... Povetkin has improved greatly since his loss to Wlad...looks like a guy who is motivated to get revenge.

qwabercd

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

I think Fury would beat Wlad as well. Fury is faster than Wlad and won't get bullied. He could get caught by a power punch though. Otherwise I think he'd win a lopsided decision. I also think Mike Perez would beat him and Povetkin could KO him if the referee was willing to enforce the law this time round... Povetkin has improved greatly since his loss to Wlad...looks like a guy who is motivated to get revenge.

Whatever about the rest of what you've written but there's no way Fury is faster than Wlad.

Talib Fiasco

qwabercd wrote: »

Whatever about the rest of what you've written but there's no way Fury is faster than Wlad.

Saturday night was proof enough that Wlad has lost the speed he once had...was very sluggish at times and dare I maybe had some stamina issues towards the end. Fury is in his prime now and he was ever to fight Wlad it would be now.

Strongbow10

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

I think Fury would beat Wlad as well. Fury is faster than Wlad and won't get bullied. He could get caught by a power punch though. Otherwise I think he'd win a lopsided decision. I also think Mike Perez would beat him and Povetkin could KO him if the referee was willing to enforce the law this time round... Povetkin has improved greatly since his loss to Wlad...looks like a guy who is motivated to get revenge.

Mike Perez is far too small and has a tiny reach coupled with his stamina issues.

Povetkin likewise lacks the size, speed and lateral movement to beat Wlad.

Klitschko whilst not exactly easy on the eye in terms of excitement is nigh on unbeatable in this era. He posesses a stinging right hand, in order to land a jab even you need to taste his stiff jab.

Wlad is fundamentally sounds, remarkably effective rather than highly skilled. Athletic, hard hitting, well conditioned, safety first, left jab paws, straight right and repeat. Never throws an uppercut or wide hook as he doesn't need to.

He beats Fury, and I do like Fury but Fury is basically a poor mans version. For a younger man he is no faster, he doesn't hit as hard, his punching technique isn't as good and Fury will hit the canvass when that first straight right hand lands.

People remark how Wlad needs to fight someone his own size who will nullify his advantages, however men his own size do not have the physical gifts Wlad does.

The fighter who will beat Wlad will first and foremost have a good chin, be capable of closing the distance, hard punching, exceptional footwork and upper body movement, physically strong and with good reach aswell.

Wilder is no great shakes, but he is capable of landing an early KO on Wlad should be connect, but over 12 rounds Wlad's safety first approach would make Wilder look the crude fighter he is.

Panic E

Definitely not great in terms of excitement but he gets the job done.

I only seen the highlights. I would like to see him fight Fury though.

Kirby

Gintonious wrote: »

Is that a joke? Wlad would have beaten Fury and Chizora at the same time when they fought.

Fury would have to get past Wlads hydraulic jab to utilize this better inside game you mentioned, and also stop that glass chin of his getting caught. Wlad is also still fast with his hands even at 39.

The hill to climb would be for Fury.

I see it as a comfortable 12 round decision for Wlad.

Glass chin? You know what weight class we are talking about here right? These aren't 100 pound midgets in there.

I think describing any heavy weight as having a glass chin severely belittles the power these guys have.

FTA69

Kirby wrote: »

Glass chin? You know what weight class we are talking about here right? These aren't 100 pound midgets in there.

I think describing any heavy weight as having a glass chin severely belittles the power these guys have.

Heavyweights can be chinny the same as any other fighters. Yes, the KO percentage is higher due to the power involved but like in any other weight class, you have some who can take a punch and some who can't.

walshb

Kirby wrote: »

Glass chin? You know what weight class we are talking about here right? These aren't 100 pound midgets in there.

I think describing any heavy weight as having a glass chin severely belittles the power these guys have.

Very good points, but like any other weights some men take and absorb a shot that bit better.

Henno30

I respect Wlad for what he has done, but at this point I just want to see a heavyweight champion use his 250lb frame to knock opponents out, instead of just using it to protect his shaky chin.

Henno30

On Mike Perez, I hear he's putting in serious conditioning work for this one. Not just jogging to the shops for choc-ices as he appears to have done for recent fights. Time will tell, but I hope he does himself justice.

Strongbow10

Henno30 wrote: »

On Mike Perez, I hear he's putting in serious conditioning work for this one. Not just jogging to the shops for choc-ices as he appears to have done for recent fights. Time will tell, but I hope he does himself justice.

is he fighting Povetkin?

walshb

The comment on Povetkin maybe beating Klit. Maybe he could, but he was absolutely dominated in fight 1. And the referee wasn't his main problem.

Henno30

Strongbow10 wrote: »

is he fighting Povetkin?

May 22nd in Moscow

Joeseph Balls

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/26/britain-heavyweight-tyson-fury-fight-wladimir-klitschko

Has fury any fights lined up?

Talib Fiasco

walshb wrote: »

The comment on Povetkin maybe beating Klit. Maybe he could, but he was absolutely dominated in fight 1. And the referee wasn't his main problem.

True I guess but Povetkin has seemed to have improved greatly since that fight... I think he's a very good chance of beating Wlad in a rematch

walshb

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

True I guess but Povetkin has seemed to have improved greatly since that fight... I think he's a very good chance of beating Wlad in a rematch

I think it's more a case that against much lesser opposition he seems to have improved. He tried his ass off vs. Wlad and could never really make an impact. Thoroughly beaten by size and range and skills.

Henno30

It would take something special to take out Wlad and there's very little special about the current heavyweight class.

I really just hope Wlad gets a recurring injury at some point and decides to retire. There isn't anyone remotely as good as him to take the reigns, but at least the division would be competitive again and that's something.

Talib Fiasco

walshb wrote: »

I think it's more a case that against much lesser opposition he seems to have improved. He tried his ass off vs. Wlad and could never really make an impact. Thoroughly beaten by size and range and skills.

I think he has improved his stamina and definitely learned alot about top HW boxing since the defeat though....as far as I know he's got some new coaches as well. Granted yes, the opposition hasn't been upto Wlad's level but his two KO's since then have been fantastic and overall he has been very impressive. Certainly I see an improvement on him now since the Huck fight which I thought he lost.

Mantis Toboggan

Kirby wrote: »

Glass chin? You know what weight class we are talking about here right? These aren't 100 pound midgets in there.

I think describing any heavy weight as having a glass chin severely belittles the power these guys have.

Especially saying it about a boxer who has never been knocked out!

ikeano29

Gintonious wrote: »

Is that a joke? Wlad would have beaten Fury and Chizora at the same time when they fought.

Fury would have to get past Wlads hydraulic jab to utilize this better inside game you mentioned, and also stop that glass chin of his getting caught. Wlad is also still fast with his hands even at 39.

The hill to climb would be for Fury.

I see it as a comfortable 12 round decision for Wlad.

How do you feel now after the comfortable 12 rounds for wlad?

My prediction was spot on and won a nice few pound to, wlad will never beat fury because he's to unpredictable, to big and awkward for him and a very good fast mover for such a big guy

StringerBell

You're prediction was spot on?

I'd say you have to re-read your post again, you predicted a good fight. Do you think that was a good fight?

You sat on the fence tbph. You said Fury was better on the inside, wouldn't be bullied, you said Wlad more accurate and stronger.

The only thing I could make out to be a prediction was that it would be a good fight, which is clearly wasn't. Well done though, glad to hear now its over you made a nice few pound off it.

Frank Bullitt

ikeano29 wrote: »

How do you feel now after the comfortable 12 rounds for wlad?

My prediction was spot on and won a nice few pound to, wlad will never beat fury because he's to unpredictable, to big and awkward for him and a very good fast mover for such a big guy

Obviously i got it wrong, as did many in here.

You feel better about yourself for digging up an old thread to see that? Good man.

Tiriel

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