Turkish A320 emergency landing with engine fire at IST

Long Time Lurker

Just spotted this on twitter. There's other pictures, if you work back their twitter feed, of it flying over Istanbul clearly on fire.

Take a look at @airlivenet's Tweet: https://twitter.com/airlivenet/status/591877644091817984?s=09

jimbis

Right landing gear collapsed on landing so the pilots took off again and got it down safely on the second attempt. Good job.

Growler!!!

Any idea what the sequence of events was?

Was the engine fire the result of the gear collapse on 1st landing?

smurfjed

Right landing gear collapsed on landing so the pilots took off again and got it down safely on the second attempt. Good job.

I assume that you are joking?

Storm 10

Not a thing about this on any news channels so must be a hoax, the link won't open now

billie1b

Storm 10 wrote: »

Not a thing about this on any news channels so must be a hoax, the link won't open now

Not a hoax

http://avherald.com/h?article=48546eb6&opt=0

bennyob

Report here

http://www.thejournal.ie/plane-lands-safely-after-engine-fire-2068751-Apr2015/?utm_source=twitter_self

Storm 10

bennyob wrote: »

Report here

http://www.thejournal.ie/plane-lands-safely-after-engine-fire-2068751-Apr2015/?utm_source=twitter_self

Great oucome thanks for the link amazed it's not on Sky News

jimbis

smurfjed wrote: »

I assume that you are joking?

I was referring to the fact they did manage to land it eventually without harming anyone.

But to be fair we don't know the whole story, the initial gear collapse could've been dragging the plane off the runway at high speed so a go around was the best option. They couldn't have had time to know the engine was on fire and decide that a potential crash was the better option than a go around on one engine.
This is all just my opinion though, you know more about this stuff than I ever will

artanevilla

Not a nice sight out your window:

Long Time Lurker

Most peculiar in this day and age to have such a catastrophic engine failure that wasn't contained. Wonder what went wrong there. Any of the resident experts able to shed a light on this one.

As for that picture. I think I'd be utterly terrified to look out my window and see that. You have to be thinking the worst. Yeah a knackered engine is a problem but its more an inconvenience than a real issue. Big lumps outta a wing though.

kona

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

Most peculiar in this day and age to have such a catastrophic engine failure that wasn't contained. Wonder what went wrong there. Any of the resident experts able to shed a light on this one.

As for that picture. I think I'd be utterly terrified to look out my window and see that. You have go be thinking the worst. Yeah a knackered engine is a problem but its mor any inconvenience than a real issue. Big lumps outta wing though.

The damage to the wing is from the landing gear I'd imagine. The engine is on fire because it smacked the runway before the pilot took off again.

Long Time Lurker

kona wrote: »

The damage to the wing is from the landing gear I'd imagine. The engine is on fire because it smacked the runway before the pilot took off again.

Ah right.. Was in work all day and I'm only catching up. So it landed first , the gear collapsed and it went around! Is that what happened?

billie1b

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

Ah right.. Was in work all day and I'm only catching up. So it landed first , the gear collapsed and it went around! Is that what happened?

Everything was rosie until just close to touchdown, the plane rolled to the right with the wing and engine striking the runway and then there was a hard landing just after that, the crew went for a go-around, while on the go-around the RHE was on fire, the aircraft landed the second time without incident (with the engine still in fire) but as it was rolling out the right main gear collapsed and the aircraft did a 180 degree turn and came to an abrupt stop in the RWY and grass, the pax were evacuated while the fire crews doused the plane with foam

Tenger

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

Ah right.. Was in work all day and I'm only catching up. So it landed first , the gear collapsed and it went around! Is that what happened?

The aircraft was landing but rolling right on touch down, right engine and wing impacted runway, crew initiated a go-around then came back in for another attempt.

From AVherald:
Turkish Airlines Airbus A320-200, registration TC-JPE ........landed on Istanbul Ataturk Airport's runway 05 at 10:22L (07:22Z) but rolled right just before touchdown causing the right engine and wing to contact the runway and a hard touch down. The crew initiated a go-around, then declared emergency due to an engine inoperative. The crew subsequently reported an unsafe gear indication.
The aircraft positioned for an emergency landing on runway 35L, touched down about 20 minutes after the go around, but with the right main gear collapsed the aircraft skidded on its right engine, with sparks and smoke trailing the engine, and veered right off the runway spinning nearly 180 degrees.
The aircraft was evacuated via slides while emergency services started to spray the aircraft. There were no injuries, the aircraft received substantial damage to right hand engine and its pylon as well as to leading and trailing edge high lift devices at the right hand wing.


Jesus, kudos to the crew.

Tenger

Scroll down on the AVherald story, they have a pax photo. IN it I can see about 12 people, with 3 taking photos. I can even see a guy taking a pic of his female companion giving the camera (phone) a thumbs up.
Human behaviour never ceases to amaze me.

sjb25

Tenger wrote: »

The aircraft was landing but rolling right on touch down, right engine and wing impacted runway, crew initiated a go-around then came back in for another attempt.

From AVherald:
Turkish Airlines Airbus A320-200, registration TC-JPE ........landed on Istanbul Ataturk Airport's runway 05 at 10:22L (07:22Z) but rolled right just before touchdown causing the right engine and wing to contact the runway and a hard touch down. The crew initiated a go-around, then declared emergency due to an engine inoperative. The crew subsequently reported an unsafe gear indication.
The aircraft positioned for an emergency landing on runway 35L, touched down about 20 minutes after the go around, but with the right main gear collapsed the aircraft skidded on its right engine, with sparks and smoke trailing the engine, and veered right off the runway spinning nearly 180 degrees.
The aircraft was evacuated via slides while emergency services started to spray the aircraft. There were no injuries, the aircraft received substantial damage to right hand engine and its pylon as well as to leading and trailing edge high lift devices at the right hand wing.


Jesus, kudos to the crew.

Jesus if there was ever a time for a bottle of whiskey it would be after all of that fair play to the crew

smurfjed

time for a bottle of whiskey it would be after all of that

bad bad bad idea as the first thing that they will have to do is pee into a cup, but after that, at least a bottle each

http://m.airliners.net/photo/detail/id/2629076

Clearer view of the damaged caused after first approach and on 2nd approach.

shedweller

Airbus aren't having a good year are they?!
Major kudos to the pilots though. That starboard flap was completely non functional so i'm guessing the landing speed had to be a lot quicker??
The engine cowl looks undamaged in that last photo too. I suppose it just takes a broken fuel or oil pipe to cause a fire.
Very impressive piloting skills.

smurfjed

Airbus aren't having a good year are they?!

How can we blame Airbus for this? History has shown that if an MD11 hit one wheel that hard, it would break its back and roll over, so this shows that the Airbus is a bloody strong aircraft.

galwayjohn89

smurfjed wrote: »

How can we blame Airbus for this?

I don't think we was blaming airbus for it. Just saying theres been a lot of incidents with airbus recently, especially the A320. Most/All not their fault though.

SaveOurLyric

artanevilla wrote: »

Not a nice sight out your window:

Jaykers!

Am a complete ignoramous, but :

What was the plane doing in the air for 20 minutes with that and an engine on fire ? Was that not a serious risk once the pilots were aware of it that would have pushed them to a hastier second landing ?

Presume the go around decision was without knowing this damage. Had they known it was that bad, was there a case for trying to make the first landing stick ?


Thank God all the passengers got their smartphones off safely to take snaps of each other with the vehicle.

ectoraige

Tenger wrote: »

Scroll down on the AVherald story, they have a pax photo. IN it I can see about 12 people, with 3 taking photos. I can even see a guy taking a pic of his female companion giving the camera (phone) a thumbs up.
Human behaviour never ceases to amaze me.

I wouldn't really mind about people taking pictures with their phones after the incident when it's clear everybody has been evacuated safely. I'd be more concerned about the people with their bags who would have slowed up the evacuation while lives could have still been at risk.

Nice to see the excavator worker didn't have to take time out from his work.

Reoil

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

Any of the resident experts able to shed a light on this one.

Most of them have armchairs...

Disgraceful picture of evacuated passengers standing around with their cabin bags, noticed this in recent incidents, Asiana in San Fran etc.

I'm sorry but if you dare reach for the overhead locker I'm Mauling you out the door Sean O'Brien style, we can talk about it AFTER we are ALL safely out of the aircraft and you will lose the discussion.

keith16

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

Any of the resident experts able to shed a light on this one.

Reoil wrote: »

Most of them have armchairs...

So that would be a "NO" from yourself then?

shedweller

smurfjed wrote: »

How can we blame Airbus for this? History has shown that if an MD11 hit one wheel that hard, it would break its back and roll over, so this shows that the Airbus is a bloody strong aircraft.

I wasn't blaming anyone for this. I just said airbus has had a string of bad luck lately.
It is a very strong aircraft and the designers must be commended for that.

gordongekko

So are we saying good pilot or bad pilot?

shedweller

gordongekko wrote: »

So are we saying good pilot or bad pilot?

Good pilot. Definitely.

ShaunC

Definitely a good pilot having a bad day:o

smurfjed

Presume the go around decision was without knowing this damage. Had they known it was that bad, was there a case for trying to make the first landing stick ?

Was the initial go around the result of the damage or the cause of the damage.

Think back to the Aer Lingus video that was posted here a few weeks ago, the aircraft was landing in Birmingham (?), touched down in windy conditions, applied TOGA, touched the ground again before the power was available. This would indicate that the decision to abort the landing was made prior to touching the ground.

We dont know when the fire started or if the landing gear came up after the aborted landing, the crew might have had to do the engine fire checklist followed by the landing gear checklist, so this will take time.

So are we saying good pilot or bad pilot?

We aren't saying anything. Unfortunately in this world of ours, unless you hit a flock of birds or some other act of God, everything else falls at the feet of the Captain. For me, the big question here is WHY did the aircraft bank severely prior to the first landing, was it wake turbulence from the 787, if yes, then was he the correct distance from the 787 or do we have to revisit the wake effects of the 787 in the same manner as the 757.

smurfjed

Most of them have armchairs...

Of course we have arm chairs, do you think that we should sit on the floor?

duskyjoe

Mentioning else where that initial heavy landing may have been from wake turb from a preceding 787 and a tail wind thrown in for good measure. Re disgraceful scenes of passengers wandering around with their hand baggage....agree but this will continue to happen and there really is nothing ccms can do in the heat of the moment getting passengers to disembark via slides. Just my 2c