Will marriage equality force churches to perform marriages for gay couples?

TheBrinch

I haven't looked up anything about the upcoming referendum but I was wondering will churches hold the right to refuse gay couples?

Decided to make a thread because the other one about the referendum seems more like a yes or no thing.

I'm not looking for a debate on how right or wrong it is, just if they are legally allowed to do so or not.

Nodin

Yes.

Bannasidhe

Yes.

efb

Yes.


This referendum refers to civil marriage only

gk5000

Imagine the church being sued like the cake people......ha ha ha

BrokenArrows

Surely law only indicates whether they can get married. Not if an individual religion can be forced to marry them.

I assume the law being passed means that they can have a secular wedding.

As it currently stands (as far as im aware) a church doesn't have to marry a straight couple, its the churches choice. Why would a gay marriage be any different?

The Backwards Man

Imagine steak eaters like me were ostracised. I'd fight tooth and nail for my right to eat steak but there's no way in hell I'd demand a vegan had to cook my steak for me.

That's my take on the referendum and this should have been my 10000th post

dotsman

You might want to change your post or the heading, as the 2 questions you are asking are the complete opposite of each other.

The answer to the title is no.
The answer to your post is yes.

Religious marriages (which only your parish priest and your mother care about) are a completely different thing to legal marriages (which you are legally married).

endacl

Info here. Jeez. The amount of sheer ignorance of the facts of this perfectly straightforward referendum boggles the mind at a whole new level of boggle...

:rolleyes:

Links234

Churches only perform marriages for their own religions. A muslim can't go into a catholic church and get married there for example, only catholics can. They have their own rules and that's not gonna change.

What is being voted on is the actual legal marriage, or civil marriage, not religious ceremonies.

suicide_circus

I believe it will mandate sex acts between the clergy and strapping members of the defence forces.

Links234

I hear it'll also mandate that our national anthem be changed to Abba's Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEjLoHdbVeE

shruikan2553

The dont have to marry someone who isnt catholic or not catholic enough (religious discrimination) and they dont have to marry people who are divorced (discrimination based on marital status)

Outside of marriages they dont have to let women be priests, can fire teachers for being gay or not catholic (this is or has been fixed though) and can not let children into school for not being catholic.


When it comes to the churches all anti discrimination laws can be ignored.

Annasopra

TheBrinch wrote: »

will churches hold the right to refuse gay couples

Yes

TheBrinch wrote: »

Will marriage equality force churches to perform marriages for gay couples?

No

TheBrinch

dotsman wrote: »

You might want to change your post or the heading, as the 2 questions you are asking are the complete opposite of each other.

The answer to the title is no.
The answer to your post is yes.

Religious marriages (which only your parish priest and your mother care about) are a completely different thing to legal marriages (which you are legally married).

I realised that after the first reply Bit too late now seeing as people have clarified the situation!