Not Able To Find Work

liam650

Hi, im having trouble finding work, im 24 and i havent had a paid job before although i do have some experience and i have done courses and i am in college at the moment so there is no gaps on my CV, anyone have any advice?

Also i have heard that working is all about the employer and the business and not about the employee, i am more of a self centered person, i only care about me and people around me but in a work force area i will be the same, people keep telling me it wont work and il be on the welfare for life

Rubberchikken

most people care about themselves, but when you're in a job you have certain work to do and it's not about whether you care about your colleagues, it's just a case of getting on with people in a work environment and doing what you're paid for.

keep job hunting. during the summer months, some employers look for students so that might be a way.

Mongfinder General

liam650 wrote: »

Hi, im having trouble finding work, im 24 and i havent had a paid job before although i do have some experience and i have done courses and i am in college at the moment so there is no gaps on my CV, anyone have any advice?

Also i have heard that working is all about the employer and the business and not about the employee, i am more of a self centered person, i only care about me and people around me but in a work force area i will be the same, people keep telling me it wont work and il be on the welfare for life

Where are you based?

leinsterdude

try being a sales rep, personal targets make you self centred, not a bad thing for a rep to be greedy and self centred.
failing that a clamper !

liam650

I have a friend that works in a shop and she told me the boss said one day that his products are more important than you, he said this bar of chocolate it more important to be kept from being stolen and to do anything possible to prevent it

now i think that is sick, no way could i work in something like that but i hear most jobs and bosses are like that

cabla

liam650 wrote: »

Hi, im having trouble finding work, im 24 and i havent had a paid job before although i do have some experience and i have done courses and i am in college at the moment so there is no gaps on my CV, anyone have any advice?

Also i have heard that working is all about the employer and the business and not about the employee, i am more of a self centered person, i only care about me and people around me but in a work force area i will be the same, people keep telling me it wont work and il be on the welfare for life

Can I ask why at 24 you've never worked and working is only something you've heard of?

As the post above, sales sounds like the job for you if you're not interested in anyone else. Service sector no for sure as that's about others, retail no as that's helping others. Sales will give you targets that you need to achieve for your self as the more you make the more you'll earn.

liam650

cabla wrote: »

Can I ask why at 24 you've never worked and working is only something you've heard of?

As the post above, sales sounds like the job for you if you're not interested in anyone else. Service sector no for sure as that's about others, retail no as that's helping others. Sales will give you targets that you need to achieve for your self as the more you make the more you'll earn.

sales is going to be achieving a target but that target will be set by a boss again, i have no issue working with people or in any setting its just i want to be treated fairly, all i want is an even playing field

cabla

liam650 wrote: »

sales is going to be achieving a target but that target will be set by a boss again, i have no issue working with people or in any setting its just i want to be treated fairly, all i want is an even playing field

Who exactly have you been talking to about jobs?

Of course most jobs are an even playing field, why wouldn't it be. If you put your time in and commit to the company they should treat you well back.

At the end of the day however you are working for a company. Managers have targets to meet and you will be the person to help meet them. Just try find managers that are interested in a team environment that supports one another to achieve it. You are working for a company and the end goal is to make money for the company, simple as. That requires effort and requires you to work for the company and in compensation take a salary...

What's the concern here? That a manager might make you work - sorry but they will... Hense why you get a salary!

What are you doing in college?

liam650

cabla wrote: »

Who exactly have you been talking to about jobs?

Of course most jobs are an even playing field, why wouldn't it be. If you put your time in and commit to the company they should treat you well back.

At the end of the day however you are working for a company. Managers have targets to meet and you will be the person to help meet them. Just try find managers that are interested in a team environment that supports one another to achieve it. You are working for a company and the end goal is to make money for the company, simple as. That requires effort and requires you to work for the company and in compensation take a salary...

What's the concern here? That a manager might make you work - sorry but they will... Hense why you get a salary!

yeah what you say is true if it worked like that it would be great, maybe it is just my negativity but at 24 now i am getting desperate to find a job and see for myself what it is like

liam650

Deleted User wrote: »

What are you doing in college?

sports business management

Dohnjoe

liam650 wrote: »

I have a friend that works in a shop and she told me the boss said one day that his products are more important than you, he said this bar of chocolate it more important to be kept from being stolen and to do anything possible to prevent it

now i think that is sick, no way could i work in something like that but i hear most jobs and bosses are like that

Don't take this the wrong way, but it's like listening to a kid not wanting to go to school because they heard that "teachers are mean"

Think about what you would like to do, research it and see if it's possible with your current qualifications. If that feels too daunting, then perhaps starting at square one, an easy office/factory/McDonalds job if you just want to get to grips with the basic work environment and so on. These type of jobs obviously suck and have low pay, but they'll get you moving and can be done part-time with college

All this stuff about not getting on with authority is generally just immature stuff and should pass. Don't use it as an excuse not to work. Getting going with work is important, I was a late starter for similar reasons, now I kick myself I didn't get going sooner.

Also if you want to go for something good, then research the job, research interview questions and research how to make a good effect CV - it's shocking how many don't put in the small amount of time required for this and it can make a huge difference.

The Veteran

Again not having a pop but if you came out with that tripe in an interview I'd lose interest straight away. The reality is most people take s job to get started and usually find that once they are working opportunities open up.

Sports management ... Plenty of gyms, hotels, etc out there.

Tordelback

It does seem like a strange and difficult environment younger people are coming into. When I was a teenager (in the late Stone Age mid-late 80s), almost everyone I knew had a part-time paying job - it was a doddle, you just knocked on doors or took over a job from someone you knew who was moving on. I started doing a bit of cleaning and portering in a hotel when I was 15, worked in furniture removals (£1.50 an hour!), cleaning, housepainting and groundskeeping over the summers until I was 18 when I switched to summer jobs related to my course when I went to college, and worked in restaurants, catering and even McDonalds part-time throughout my undergrad and postgrad. Now I was definitely doing this for money, not 'the experience' - but experience it was all the same: you'll never view the world quite the same after a lengthy spell cleaning shopping centre toilets.

It seems like pretty grim situation to have reached 24 and not to have had a paying job, a totally different world in fact. I can see how daunting it would seem - by that age I had long before fetched my share of skirting-board ladders, skyhooks and left-handed screwdrivers, knew which bosses to avoid eye-contact with and which bosses could be plamassed into an afternoon of idleness with a chat about Aintree or Anfield, which junior supervisors were irredeemable pricks (always one) and which couldn't give a **** what you did (always one)... a new workplace held few terrors, knowing that after a fortnight or so I'd know which end was up and better yet I'd be collecting a cheque.

Facing into that for the first time at 24... yikes. Don't envy you there, OP. I think you need to take it as it comes, see what does and doesn't work for you in reality. You might be surprised that you actually enjoy a job where the tasks and targets are clearly set and all you have to do is get them done, or you might enjoy one where you have responsibility to come up with everything yourself. You probably won't know until you try.

cabla

Tordelback wrote: »

It does seem like a strange and difficult environment younger people are coming into. When I was a teenager (in the late Stone Age mid-late 80s), almost everyone I knew had a part-time paying job - it was a doddle, you just knocked on doors or took over a job from someone you knew who was moving on. I started doing a bit of cleaning and portering in a hotel when I was 15, worked in furniture removals (£1.50 an hour!), cleaning, housepainting and groundskeeping over the summers until I was 18 when I switched to summer jobs related to my course when I went to college, and worked in restaurants, catering and even McDonalds part-time throughout my undergrad and postgrad. Now I was definitely doing this for money, not 'the experience' - but experience it was all the same: you'll never view the world quite the same after a lengthy spell cleaning shopping centre toilets.

It seems like pretty grim situation to have reached 24 and not to have had a paying job, a totally different world in fact. I can see how daunting it would seem - by that age I had long before fetched my share of skirting-board ladders, skyhooks and left-handed screwdrivers, knew which bosses to avoid eye-contact with and which bosses could be plamassed into an afternoon of idleness with a chat about Aintree or Anfield, which junior supervisors were irredeemable pricks (always one) and which couldn't give a **** what you did (always one)... a new workplace held few terrors, knowing that after a fortnight or so I'd know which end was up and better yet I'd be collecting a cheque.

Facing into that for the first time at 24... yikes. Don't envy you there, OP. I think you need to take it as it comes, see what does and doesn't work for you in reality. You might be surprised that you actually enjoy a job where the tasks and targets are clearly set and all you have to do is get them done, or you might enjoy one where you have responsibility to come up with everything yourself. You probably won't know until you try.

I'm 26 and I started working myself at 16. I couldn't wait to get out and earn a bit of money. And now I'm earning a healthy sum and in a good position where authority as the OP states are on my side.

OP it'll stand to you no matter what job you do, believe me. Each job will make you grow. You're in a position where you just have to accept authority. The only way to get over that is to work your way up to that authority level where you manage. Don't bite off more than you can chew. It's all about experience. If you do a good job and work hard there's nothing authority can really say, they'll see this.

What have you been saying to potential employers that ask why you haven't had a job and you're 24?