Glas Advisor Prices

50HX

shopping around at the moment for planner prices for Glas

Private Guy in Tralee quoting 650 - plan only, NMplan to follow - no price yet

Glas Farm Planners based in Dublin are 530 for plan and 400 for NMPlan

what is ye'r experience of prices??

wesleysniper38

That sounds saucy.
My man in South Donegal / North Leitrim is charging €400.
He can't commit on the NMP yet.

I forgot to ask him how much per year after plan is submitted..

merryberry

50HX wrote: »

Private Guy in Tralee quoting 650 - plan only, NMplan to follow - no price yet

Glas Farm Planners based in Dublin are 530 for plan and 400 for NMPlan

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

My man in South Donegal / North Leitrim is charging €400.
He can't commit on the NMP yet.

6 years since some sort of meaningful agri-environmental scheme...sounds to me like like planners are playing catch up.

paddysdream

Priced my adviser yesterday whilst doing the BPS .
300 plus vat for the plan and 400 plus vat for the nutrient management plan.
Said he will not charge again if you aren't accepted this year and have to reapply next year as the plan will be done anyways.

Didn't ask re. filling out the records but never bothered to get him to do the REPS ones as the were very simple and GLAS should be even more straightforward.

Muckit

It's looking to me like a pure money racket. And I've only made a quick few phone calls. Did anyone walk the ground with ye before giving a quote? I wasn't going giving anyone premission to look at my agfood without them coming out. The least they could do. 'Money for Jam' as my oul lad would say.

paddysdream

Muckit wrote: »

It's looking to me like a pure money racket. And I've only made a quick few phone calls. Did anyone walk the ground with ye before giving a quote? I wasn't going giving anyone premission to look at my agfood without them coming out. The least they could do. 'Money for Jam' as my oul lad would say.

Well, at say 700 plus vat to do application and NMP for a possible return of 25k (5 x 5k per year) I would think its worth a speculation,esp. when the NMP doesn't have to be done unless you are accepted into the scheme.
All you are chancing is less than 400 euro.

Is there any need for the planner to walk your ground if they have done your Area Aid/ Reps / Aeos previously? At this stage they really should know both you and your land.

Looking at the low input pasture (paperwork exercise so no cost)plus maybe hedging (cheap enough if you do it yourself) and a few bird boxes etc to make up the balance.May have to consider wild bird cover on a couple of acres to move higher up the priority list but have a wet corner lined up for that if needed.
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Lot less money than reps but looks like a lot less hassle.

serfspup

merryberry wrote: »

6 years since some sort of meaningful agri-environmental scheme...sounds to me like like planners are playing catch up.

was aeos not an ag environmental scheme or does it not count without a planner ?

merryberry

serfspup wrote: »

was aeos not an ag environmental scheme or does it not count without a planner ?

AEOS (Agri-Environmental Options Stunt) was a farce and a smoke screen to carry out our CAP pillar 2 obligations; a compromise for the abolition of REPS4 which was recommended by An Bord Snip Nua back in 2009 so I don’t think it should count as an agri-environmental scheme

Cavanjack

Muckit wrote: »

It's looking to me like a pure money racket. And I've only made a quick few phone calls. Did anyone walk the ground with ye before giving a quote? I wasn't going giving anyone premission to look at my agfood without them coming out. The least they could do. 'Money for Jam' as my oul lad would say.

Is glas not money for jam? Plant a wet corner for the birds. Cut a bit of a ditch. Permanent pasture. 5k less 4 or 5 hundred for the planner. Or am I missing something?

serfspup

merryberry wrote: »

AEOS (Agri-Environmental Options Stunt) was a farce and a smoke screen to carry out our CAP pillar 2 obligations; a compromise for the abolition of REPS4 which was recommended by An Bord Snip Nua back in 2009 so I don’t think it should count as an agri-environmental scheme

funny that glas looks just like aeos, I could hand a planner my aeos application and he could hand me a bill for it as a glas plan?

wesleysniper38

Has anyone looked at the difference between 'coppicing' and 'laying' hedges (apart from €1.50 a metre)?

Bullocks

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

Has anyone looked at the difference between 'coppicing' and 'laying' hedges (apart from €1.50 a metre)?

I'd say with copping you have to cut it down to the butt and let it grow up again where as laying it would be keeping the hedge but cutting and laying it down forming a hedge /fence with it as you go .
I think you have to fence it aswell if you're doing either of those measures

merryberry

serfspup wrote: »

funny that glas looks just like aeos, I could hand a planner my aeos application and he could hand me a bill for it as a glas plan?

Then u’ll agree you’re being duped!

Muckit

Cavanjack wrote: »

Is glas not money for jam? Plant a wet corner for the birds. Cut a bit of a ditch. Permanent pasture. 5k less 4 or 5 hundred for the planner. Or am I missing something?

What l'm saying is they're getting 10% return. Not bad goIng.

Muckit

paddysdream wrote: »

Well, at say 700 plus vat to do application and NMP for a possible return of 25k (5 x 5k per year) I would think its worth a speculation,esp. when the NMP doesn't have to be done unless you are accepted into the scheme.
All you are chancing is less than 400 euro.

Is there any need for the planner to walk your ground if they have done your Area Aid/ Reps / Aeos previously? At this stage they really should know both you and your land.

My reps planner was next to useless. Everything he did, l could have done it myself. He got a big write up in the IFJ about going into receivership. Now I see he's back in business again. I wouldn't be considering him as a possible glas planner.

€400-€500 is most lads net profit for the year. So l won't be making it sound like small money. You can if you like.

Bullocks

Muckit wrote: »

My reps planner was next to useless. Everything he did, l could have done it myself. He got a big write up in the IFJ about going into receivership. Now I see he's back in business again. I wouldn't be considering him as a possible glas planner.

€400-€500 is most lads net profit for the year. So l won't be making it sound like small money. You can if you like.

I know €400/500 is a nice chunk of change before you get in at all but any planner should have a fair idea whether you will be accepted or not before doing anything at this stage ,.
If that's all the profit in a farm in a year then I would chance it for the hope of making it 2k to 5k for the next few years .
I was at a meeting there a few weeks ago and only for I'm getting handy money from AEOS I would reckon on getting GLAS without much hassle either . But it's a bit more expensive to get into over AEOS and I'm not sure if there will be yearly planner costs either

paddysdream

Muckit wrote: »

My reps planner was next to useless. Everything he did, l could have done it myself. He got a big write up in the IFJ about going into receivership. Now I see he's back in business again. I wouldn't be considering him as a possible glas planner.

€400-€500 is most lads net profit for the year. So l won't be making it sound like small money. You can if you like.

Well must say my planner is excellent and I would have great faith in his ability and that's from my experience of the work he has done for me.There are no yearly costs less you need the planner to fill in record sheets.

As regards a net profit of 400-500,be kinda difficult to justify farming if that was all someone was making from it.At that level its not even a hobby more like an expensive way of keeping someone busy.

mrwonder

50HX wrote: »

shopping around at the moment for planner prices for Glas

Private Guy in Tralee quoting 650 - plan only, NMplan to follow - no price yet

Glas Farm Planners based in Dublin are 530 for plan and 400 for NMPlan

what is ye'r experience of prices??

I am assuming I know this planner, I got my bill in the post last week, 650 incl vat. I was surprised at the amount. I called to see what the soil plan would cost, another 600 euro they said and I would have to do about 8 tests at 30 euros each, although they said something about being able to do it for half price myself at 15 euro. This works out at 1490. Madness. They said there were no ongoing costs after that from the planner side. Front loaded was their get out of jail phrase. Also mentioned that I didn't have to stay with them for the soil plan, so I'm looking to see what my options are. Money in my pocket is better than someone else;s.
Anyone have a full figure from another planner?
Also what is this core contract needed with teagasc costing a minimum of 145 euro per year and is this for 5 years? By the look of it teagasc are costing 440 euro for initial plan then 465 for soil plan then this + or - 145 core contract.
How the hell can some planner do soin plan for 250 as someone quoted and another charge 600??????

pheasant tail

mrwonder wrote: »

I am assuming I know this planner, I got my bill in the post last week, 650 incl vat. I was surprised at the amount. I called to see what the soil plan would cost, another 600 euro they said and I would have to do about 8 tests at 30 euros each, although they said something about being able to do it for half price myself at 15 euro. This works out at 1490. Madness. They said there were no ongoing costs after that from the planner side. Front loaded was their get out of jail phrase. Also mentioned that I didn't have to stay with them for the soil plan, so I'm looking to see what my options are. Money in my pocket is better than someone else;s.
Anyone have a full figure from another planner?
Also what is this core contract needed with teagasc costing a minimum of 145 euro per year and is this for 5 years? By the look of it teagasc are costing 440 euro for initial plan then 465 for soil plan then this + or - 145 core contract.
How the hell can some planner do soin plan for 250 as someone quoted and another charge 600??????

That's serious prices to be paying. God knows what the private lads are charging for commonage plans. On average, for Teagasc to do your plan it will cost 1000 euro, which includes the submitting of your plan, nutrient plan and soil testing. All 1 off payments with no annual fees. The 145 you mentioned is payed to initially become a Teagasc client if you are not already which is paid annually. Private planners really made a bomb out if this scheme, and a lot if them couldn't give a toss about the plan they submitted