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High Value Couriers? Anyone know one

  • 14-04-2015 9:52am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭


    Have to send a watch to London but any of the mainstream couriers either won't take it or has a limit of 1k dollars on jewellery and even at that they are looking for crazy money to deliver it.

    I am not will to sent uninsured or underinsured.

    Any one have any details or experience on a company willing to deliver it fully insured for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭spyderski


    How much are you looking at? Will your specified item/house insurance not cover it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    I don't think there are any in Ireland couriers in Ireland that do so.

    Parcelpro can do insurance I understand but not sure how they work to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    A cheap Ryanair flight could end up being cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    spyderski wrote: »
    How much are you looking at? Will your specified item/house insurance not cover it?

    I think it's the one watch I have not specified on my house insurance. Value cira 2.5k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    A cheap Ryanair flight could end up being cheaper.

    Tho of that but have neither time or interest in flying over.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Jeweler friend of mine used to just use the ordinary post, no one ever paid any heed to it, AFAIK it always worked for him. Now I'm not suggesting you do this....Bit like the old story of money getting lost in a birthday card envelope, but was grand in a brown envelope.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Jeweler friend of mine used to just use the ordinary post, no one ever paid any heed to it, AFAIK it always worked for him. Now I'm not suggesting you do this....Bit the like the old story of money getting lost in a birthday card envelope, but was grand in a brown envelope.

    Like that I sent plenty of watches tracked tro an post but not up to that value. For buyer and seller I'd like it fully insured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Mitch Buchannon


    Where are you located Breanach ? If Dublin , a quick spin up the M1 to Newry and you could send it Royal Mail special delivery. You can get coverage upto GBP2500.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    Where are you located Breanach ? If Dublin , a quick spin up the M1 to Newry and you could send it Royal Mail special delivery. You can get coverage upto GBP2500.

    Sounds perfect but I am based in galway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭blindsider


    Are you ever North of Galway? Quick stopover in Enniskillen?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,475 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Open a parcelpro account


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 491 ✭✭Dozer Dave


    Dpd will insure you for that amount no problem, very reliable courier also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭fulladapipes


    I use DHL here in Spain and no problem insuring for at least up to 5k. Parcel always lands next day in Europe. Works out at €118 from Spain to Germany, for example.

    FdP


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I use DHL here in Spain and no problem insuring for at least up to 5k. Parcel always lands next day in Europe. Works out at €118 from Spain to Germany, for example.

    FdP

    That does make the ryanair option look more tempting. Fly early in the morning, drop off the watch at 9am. Spend the day in museums/galleries or whatever floats your boat, pick up watch at 5 pm and fly home again.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,475 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    breanach78 wrote: »
    I think it's the one watch I have not specified on my house insurance. Value cira 2.5k

    or why not just add it to the house insurance for a month and take it back off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    blue5000 wrote: »
    That does make the ryanair option look more tempting. Fly early in the morning, drop off the watch at 9am. Spend the day in museums/galleries or whatever floats your boat, pick up watch at 5 pm and fly home again.

    One day service of a watch in Central London :rolleyes:


    Has a quick scan of DHL Express terms and conditions and the relevant terms on the UK website is with regards to prohibited.

    Jewellery, costume jewellery, watches and objects constructed of precious metal and/or stones with a value in excess of £4,000 per waybill.


    Would suggest using DHL as I have never lost anything with them, (20 plus years) and anything that was misdirected was found and sent to the correct address.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    Dozer Dave wrote: »
    Dpd will insure you for that amount no problem, very reliable courier also.

    No they won't.

    There is no Irish courier that cover watches or jewellery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    One day service of a watch in Central London :rolleyes:


    Has a quick scan of DHL Express terms and conditions and the relevant terms on the UK website is with regards to prohibited.

    Jewellery, costume jewellery, watches and objects constructed of precious metal and/or stones with a value in excess of £4,000 per waybill.


    Would suggest using DHL as I have never lost anything with them, (20 plus years) and anything that was misdirected was found and sent to the correct address.

    DHL Ireland have different terms and conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    Cyrus wrote: »
    or why not just add it to the house insurance for a month and take it back off

    Would hpuse insurance cover this type of transit? I suspect not.

    Given Dhl or dpd have watches on their prohibited list then I suspect you have violated the terms and conditions of your insurance and it may be voided in the event you need it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Open a parcelpro account

    Is there any cost associated with this? Easy to do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,475 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    893bet wrote: »
    Would hpuse insurance cover this type of transit? I suspect not.

    Given Dhl or dpd have watches on their prohibited list then I suspect you have violated the terms and conditions of your insurance and it may be voided in the event you need it.

    well its all risk,

    id fight my corner on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,475 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    893bet wrote: »
    Is there any cost associated with this? Easy to do?

    no and yes

    you just need 2 references

    you pay per parcel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    Cyrus wrote: »
    well its all risk,

    id fight my corner on it

    It is an interesting one. I wouldn't like to be relying on it for a 5 k watch in transit from Ireland to Europe personally.

    If they can get out of it they will in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    Cyrus wrote: »
    no and yes

    you just need 2 references

    you pay per parcel

    2 references from existing members I assume.

    What's the charge per parcel roughly? Let's say 5k watch to Europe? Are we talking 1% insurance value or more?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭fulladapipes


    Is it not the case that DHL prohibit watches with a value in excess of stg4,000? If your watch is 2.5k then it might work.

    DHL (here anyway) charge by the size of the box you use. I've had to send a watch with big box(es) which meant larger DHL packet which also meant higher charge. If you can box your watch up nice and small, you'd use a small packet and it should cost less.

    A quick phone call might sort it one way or the other...

    FdP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    Is it not the case that DHL prohibit watches with a value in excess of stg4,000? If your watch is 2.5k then it might work.

    DHL (here anyway) charge by the size of the box you use. I've had to send a watch with big box(es) which meant larger DHL packet which also meant higher charge. If you can box your watch up nice and small, you'd use a small packet and it should cost less.

    A quick phone call might sort it one way or the other...

    FdP

    I think in Ireland they don't accept watches or jewellery at all.

    I rang every company two months ago to send my Railmaster to Amsterdam. Not one would accept it. There was one which offered insurance up to 1000 dollars value. Pointless given you can't under insure an item so insurance would be void in any case.

    In the end I sent it dpd not telling them it was a watch so had no cover. As such I was assuming the risk myself and if it when missing tough titty to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    Dozer Dave wrote: »
    Dpd will insure you for that amount no problem, very reliable courier also.

    i second that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭fulladapipes


    I'd love to know Irish companies rationale for doing everything different to mainland Europe. Given we are an island especially, restricting post/courier services is ridiculous.

    Are we untrustworthy? We do seem to get screwed at every turn.

    FdP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    flutered wrote: »
    i second that

    Like above I rang dhl but only covers 1k$. I'll give dpd a bell and post back here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    I'd love to know Irish companies rationale for doing everything different to mainland Europe. Given we are an island especially, restricting post/courier services is ridiculous.

    Are we untrustworthy? We do seem to get screwed at every turn.

    FdP
    I think so, from broadband, insurance,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    flutered wrote: »
    i second that

    For the third time......no they won't!!!

    Ring DPD this minute and ask for a quote for insured delivery of a watch to anywhere. They will refuse as they don't insure jewellery.

    Ask if you can send at your own risk, again they refuse.

    I just rang 5 minutes to check (incase there was a change in policy and there isn't).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    893bet wrote: »
    For the third time......no they won't!!!

    Ring DPD this minute and ask for a quote for insured delivery of a watch to anywhere. They will refuse as they don't insure jewellery.

    Ask if you can send at your own risk, again they refuse.

    I just rang 5 minutes to check (incase there was a change in policy and there isn't).
    I was thinking so, so how do jewellers send items?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    breanach78 wrote: »
    I think so, from broadband, insurance,

    Because we don't complain enough or effectively. Plus we're a small and captive market so the companies figure they can get away with it. And IMH anyway I would lay large bets that there operates a nod and a wink cross company dialogue to keep things this way.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Because we don't complain enough or effectively. Plus we're a small and captive market so the companies figure they can get away with it. And IMH anyway I would lay large bets that there operates a nod and a wink cross company dialogue to keep things this way.

    Agreed, rang fastway and they only offer cover to 50e on jewellery!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    breanach78 wrote: »
    I was thinking so, so how do jewellers send items?

    I assume they have separate relationships with couriors that private individuals can't avail off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    breanach78 wrote: »
    Agreed, rand fastway and they only offer cover to 50e on jewellery!

    And it rolled on! Ups only cover 500 and won't accept it if I declare it as 2.5k

    ANYONE. I ring don't want to know,

    DPD told me they don't provide cover outside Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    breanach78 wrote: »
    And it rolled on! Ups only cover 500 and won't accept it if I declare it as 2.5k

    ANYONE. I ring don't want to know,

    DPD told me they don't provide cover outside Ireland.

    There is no one! Sadly. We are too small a market to be worth the risk.

    Parcel pro seems to be the only option but even then.....will dpd or dhl etc accept the watch for transport even if you have a separate insurance. They just don't want to carry them regardless.



    Is this for your breitling?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    893bet wrote: »
    There is no one! Sadly. We are too small a market to be worth the risk.

    Parcel pro seems to be the only option but even then.....will dpd or dhl etc accept the watch for transport even if you have a separate insurance. They just don't want to carry them regardless.


    Is this for your breitling?


    Seems crazy as they have to carry them inward insured.

    One of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,475 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    893bet wrote: »
    2 references from existing members I assume.

    What's the charge per parcel roughly? Let's say 5k watch to Europe? Are we talking 1% insurance value or more?

    yes

    cant remember exactly, around $20 dollars for the last panerai i posted (value £3k) something like that

    I have posted 000s of euro worth of watches over the past 5 years, touch wood have never had a parcel go missing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    Cyrus wrote: »
    yes

    cant remember exactly, around $20 dollars for the last panerai i posted (value £3k) something like that

    I have posted 000s of euro worth of watches over the past 5 years, touch wood have never had a parcel go missing

    Are you in Ireland?

    Who do you use as the courier then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,475 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    893bet wrote: »
    Are you in Ireland?

    Who do you use as the courier then?

    yes

    i use an post and parcel pro for insurance

    anywatch i send will also be on my all risks, only take it off after delivery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭bogmanfan


    There are only 2 options that I'm aware of.

    1. Mailboxes Etc who are an agent for FedEx and UPS. They will offer their own third-party insurance, and charge 2% of the value if I remember correctly. This, combined with the high cost of the shipping, makes them very pricey.

    2. Try anyvan.ie. It's a service that lets you send anything to any destination. Basically you put up the item you are looking to send, the weight and dimensions, and the collection and delivery areas. Then you receive quotes from couriers and van drivers for the job. I haven't used it for watches, but have sent a few paintings to the UK with this method. In each case, the driver had insurance for up to €10k and was sending regular delivery updates via SMS. The cost for a large painting (5ft x 4ft) was €90 for 2-day delivery. And they will contact the recipient to ensure that there is somebody there to receive the package.
    There is a feeback system on the site, so you can quickly see how many satisfied customers any driver has, and make your own mind up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    Cyrus wrote: »
    yes

    i use an post and parcel pro for insurance

    anywatch i send will also be on my all risks, only take it off after delivery.

    Your not cover tho. I rang my house insurance with full discloser of what I was doing and I would not be covered, kinda makes sense as how can they cover a third party. One may think they are cover but may not be.

    Anyway sick of it now and prob going to get someone to deliver from the north cover up to 2.5kgbp for 14gbp.

    Crazy to think I will basicly have to go to a different country to find a simple service needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,475 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    breanach78 wrote: »
    Your not cover tho. I rand my house insurance with full discloser of what I was doing and I would not be covered, kinda makes sense as how can they cover a third party. One may think they are cover but may not be.

    Anyway sick of it now and prob going to get someone to deliver from the north cover up to 2.5kgbp for 14gbp.

    Crazy to think I will basicly have to go to a different country to find a simple service needed.

    i use parcel pro

    so i am covered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    Cyrus wrote: »
    i use parcel pro

    so i am covered

    Sorry I tho you meant you have it specified on you house insurance for the duration of delivery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,475 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    breanach78 wrote: »
    Sorry I tho you meant you have it specified on you house insurance for the duration of delivery.

    i do aswell

    as in its insured anyway so i just dont take it off until delivered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭breanach78


    Cyrus wrote: »
    i do aswell

    as in its insured anyway so i just dont take it off until delivered

    That's where I got my wires crossed so to speak. As I say on my house policy anyway, I wouldn't be covered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Right have been having some correspondence with DHL on this one, and they have come back to me with the following.

    I am really sorry I have just spoken to DHL Ireland, they have advised that they have a new policy in place regarding watches, they are unable to send watches unless you are an account holder.

    So opening poster do you know anyone with a DHL account


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