Roundabouts: how do people get them so wrong?

Flippyfloppy

Having recently encountered some aggressiveness & misunderstandings on roundabouts I thought I would share my latest experience on here.

TLDR; nearly getting bashed into by some crazies coming in my lane who then proceeded to threaten Us and follow us.

Yesterday I was coming off the m50 on the slip road going toward ikea. I went in the outer city lane coming up the slip road , as opposed to the inside lane marked city & m50 south. As I made the right turn at the top I stayed in the exact same lane. In the corner of my eye I noticed a car in the neighbouring lane swerve toward me and then the madness started.

They started honking their horn, and only then got into my lane. I could see the passenger reach over and honk the husbands horn. We stopped at the first set of lights. The woman was furious mouthing bas@&@d at me, a female , and mouthing 'we've a baby!!!' (We had our babies ranging from 5 months to 2.5 as well) As we were still at the lights, the male occupant hopped out of his car and ran towards us. I quickly locked the door and told me husband the guy was running for us, and with that the lights went green and I drove off just as he got to beside our little girl. Hopefully our kids are oblivious to what was going on....anyway we were heading for Ikea and I think they were too, so we headed down the road a bit so we could lose these Madzers.

To be honest I was a bit shaken up but once we got into ikea forgot about it, although we were wondering what the guy was gonna do if we hadn't drove off.......

I suppose in the traditional rules of roundabouts a person on the outer or left lane should be going straight through, but the thing is I was in the city lane and was following it around. How did the think going from the Middle lane into my car in my lane was the correct thing. I'm seeing a lot of this on roundabouts with unconventional signing these days!!

punisher5112

People get very confused but if you were in left lane and turning right then in most cases you should be in far lane to right.

For years there was no training on how to deal with a roundabout and something even a lot of new drivers do is not indicating especially when turning right.

keithclancy

It was just a crazy person.

If anyone leaned over and interfered with the controls of my car, wife or not I'd be putting them out at the next possible opportunity and they could get the bus home.

On the roundabout thing, they are not really uniform in Ireland.

Some have traffic lights on them
Some have faded road markings
Some have road marking contradicting how a roundabout is supposed to work

Some people are just afraid if they follow the rules that someone else will not follow the rules and trap them on the roundabout, e.g. Third Exit some people are afraid they will not be able to move over to get to exit.

Roundabouts and the usage in Ireland and the UK are sh*te

check_six

keithclancy wrote: »

On the roundabout thing, they are not really uniform in Ireland.

Some have traffic lights on them
Some have faded road markings
Some have road marking contradicting how a roundabout is supposed to work

There are a few roundabouts near Tyrellstown in Dublin which have this weird centrifuge type effect if you follow the markings. You go to turn right and start in the lane nearest the centre of the roundabout. As you follow the lane it guides you to your exit by sending you towards the outer edge. It's an interesting idea, but terrifying as this is not a traditional layout, and you're relying on everyone else to have noticed that and not just followed their usual path.

Inconsistent layouts don't help much when there already so many inconsistent drivers!

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.419054,-6.3814063,124m/data=!3m1!1e3

Yawns

If you were on the roundabout but not in the lane marked for City / M50 S then you would have needed to change lane at some point to get to Ikea. Are you sure you were in the correct lane? The reason I ask is you stated you didn't need to change lane, but if you were in the lane for City R108 and went to Ikea, then at some stage you changed lane. The correct lane would be for City / M50 S as as it splits lane further down for the junction for Ikea.

keithclancy

check_six wrote: »

There are a few roundabouts near Tyrellstown in Dublin which have this weird centrifuge type effect if you follow the markings. You go to turn right and start in the lane nearest the centre of the roundabout. As you follow the lane it guides you to your exit by sending you towards the outer edge. It's an interesting idea, but terrifying as this is not a traditional layout, and you're relying on everyone else to have noticed that and not just followed their usual path.

Inconsistent layouts don't help much when there already so many inconsistent drivers!

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.419054,-6.3814063,124m/data=!3m1!1e3

That's a Turbo Roundabout, I didn't know there was any in Ireland, (well it looks like a bad implementation as you shouldn't be able to change lane in the roundabout)

E.G.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eindhoven,+Netherlands/@51.4162668,5.4974512,116m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x47c6d91b5579c39f:0xf39ad2648164b998

Guy:Incognito

keithclancy wrote: »

Some have road marking contradicting how a roundabout is supposed to work

A roundabout is supposed to work the way the signs and road markings say.


If there are no specific ones then its standard rules of the road.

keithclancy

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

A roundabout is supposed to work the way the signs and road markings say.


If there are no specific ones then its standard rules of the road.

That's the point, road markings shouldn't be necessary, if they become faded or not visible in rain for example then the people that know the road markings are there will follow them and the people that don't know they are there will treat it as a normal roundabout.

Or will be in the Incorrect Lane e.g. the left lane to go straight when its marked as left turn only because there is no notification of the roundabout layout ahead.

Guy:Incognito

keithclancy wrote: »

That's the point, road markings shouldn't be necessary, if they become faded or not visible in rain for example then the people that know the road markings are there will follow them and the people that don't know they are there will treat it as a normal roundabout.

Or will be in the Incorrect Lane e.g. the left lane to go straight when its marked as left turn only because there is no notification of the roundabout layout ahead.

There are often signs too. The standard set up often isnt right for traffic flow. If 45% of the traffic goes left, 45% straight and 10% right or back where it came from, theres no point in having 90% of the cars all in the left lane on a busy road so they adjust it, like on the Fonthill road (Dublin) at the roundabout for the retail park and industrial estate. Left lane is for exit 1, right lane for 2, 3 and 4.


I quite often find a car in front will do 2 different things at identical roundabouts one after the other. People are very often stupid and/or ignorant and just want to suit themselves.

Flippyfloppy

So I've done a screenshot that will show the situation a bit better, for the poster that asked if I'm sure I was in the correct lane. I'm 99.9% sure I was in the correct lane at the time although, yes I would have had to change lanes after the roundabout to get to ikea.

That was neither here nor there for the road rage couple imo. Looking at the location that it happened they had maybe assumed I'd be going straight through, given I was in the left lane. Must have thought so given their level of rage that I was still there when they decided to swerve into the lane halfway round the roundabout.

However the left lane on that road wouldn't need to be used by people going straight on, as you would just stay on the m50 instead of going up the slip road.

Just posting picture url because I'm having trouble adding a pic. http://flic.kr/p/rMJFkM just to add, that's me in the red line. The other car is the green line moving across into my lane.

b318isp

Personally, I would have come off the M50 into the right hand lane of the slip road, stayed in the right hand lane around the roundabout and then would have been in the correct lane to turn right into IKEA.

I would imagine that you were on the left hand side of the slip road and progressed to an exit farther than 12o'clock from your point of entry. This is not the general rule for roundabouts.



That said, the roundabout markings suggest that both lanes may be OK to follow around and down the R108. If you didn't change lanes, you were doing nothing wrong per se at the point of exit from the roundabout.

This is a good summary of what lanes to use:

keithclancy

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

There are often signs too. The standard set up often isnt right for traffic flow. If 45% of the traffic goes left, 45% straight and 10% right or back where it came from, theres no point in having 90% of the cars all in the left lane on a busy road so they adjust it, like on the Fonthill road (Dublin) at the roundabout for the retail park and industrial estate. Left lane is for exit 1, right lane for 2, 3 and 4.


I quite often find a car in front will do 2 different things at identical roundabouts one after the other. People are very often stupid and/or ignorant and just want to suit themselves.

Or they could just fix it properly like they did with the Dublin Airport Roundabout:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Dublin+Airport/@53.4279205,-6.2289884,246m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x486711be6993192f:0x55121bb5b725f355?hl=en

The Kinsale Road Roundabout in Cork was a complete disaster before the flyover was put in place, we had visitors coming from abroad and every single one of them thought the thing was crazy.

In any case though, how is someone supposed to see the road markings if there's a rolling traffic jam ?

b318isp

b318isp wrote: »

This is a good summary of what lanes to use:

...doesn't apply in the case of op unless he was on a bike sharing a lane with another bike.

OP if you were indicating correctly I can't see any problems the way you drove. You stayed on one lane all the way around.

Anjobe

Irrespective of who was in the right or wrong lane on the roundabout, there really is no excuse for the behaviour and attitude of the other driver that the OP describes. That must have been the Ikea visit from hell if he and his wife were in that state before they'd even been round the shop!

Flippyfloppy

b318isp wrote: »

Personally, I would have come off the M50 into the right hand lane of the slip road, stayed in the right hand lane around the roundabout and then would have been in the correct lane to turn right into IKEA.

I would imagine that you were on the left hand side of the slip road and progressed to an exit farther than 12o'clock from your point of entry. This is not the general rule for roundabouts.



That said, the roundabout markings suggest that both lanes may be OK to follow around and down the R108. If you didn't change lanes, you were doing nothing wrong per se at the point of exit from the roundabout.

This is a good summary of what lanes to use:

Absolutely. I totally get the rules of the roundabout in a traditional sense, and would usually abide by them.

However in this instance I was in the city lane on the roundabout and was staying in that lane until it was safe to do so ( until I was off the roundabout) These other people decided to switch lanes on the roundabout, and they incidentally were going to Ikea also, if we're going to focus on that .

Tbh the incident kind of left me feeling that maybe all roundabouts should just follow the same rules, seeing as some people clearly don't get that some are different. I see confusion sometimes at the roundabouts heading to Dundrum town centre too.

And some people seem prepared to go to great lengths to show other people their disdain/anger/scobiness. Thinking about it I don't get how they didn't notice me in that lane when they tried to get into it..did they assume I'd just come on to the roundabout and was undercutting them?

They're idiots. Yep easy to say to them now anonymously on the Internet

beauf

[QUOTE=Flippyfloppy;95068653.... that's me in the red line. The other car is the green line moving across into my lane.[/QUOTE]

Taking any later exits (those past 12 o’clock – right)
Approach in the right-hand lane (unless road markings say otherwise), indicate
‘right’ on your approach and leave your indicator on until you have passed the
exit before the one you intend to take. Then change to the ‘left’ turn indicator.
Move over towards the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to
leave.

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-of-the-road-eng.pdf

Maybe I'm wrong, but the "city" markings don't seem to be on the road until after 12 O'Clock. That said I'm not really a fan of the clock rule as whats 12 is a bit vague depending on the roundabout.

There one near us with two lanes onto the roundabout, two lanes around it but only one lane off it at 12. Mayhem.

Anjobe wrote: »

Irrespective of who was in the right or wrong lane on the roundabout, there really is no excuse for the behaviour and attitude of the other driver that the OP describes. That must have been the Ikea visit from hell if he and his wife were in that state before they'd even been round the shop!

+1. No excuse at all.

slimjimmc

beauf wrote: »

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-of-the-road-eng.pdf

Maybe I'm wrong, but the "city" markings don't seem to be on the road until after 12 O'Clock. That said I'm not really a fan of the clock rule as whats 12 is a bit vague depending on the roundabout.

There one near us with two lanes onto the roundabout, two lanes around it but only one lane off it at 12. Mayhem.



+1. No excuse at all.

At this roundabout the "CITY" markings are at the start on the off ramp, and again at the entry to the roundabout where the "CITY" lane divides into two (Streetview) and repeated around the roundabout. If the OP was in the leftmost lane "CITY R108" (Streetview) then they were in the correct lane.

It's likely the other driver made a mistake and was blaming the OP but I can't rule out the possibility the OP upset him somewhere earlier.

Flippyfloppy

beauf wrote: »

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-of-the-road-eng.pdf

Maybe I'm wrong, but the "city" markings don't seem to be on the road until after 12 O'Clock. That said I'm not really a fan of the clock rule as whats 12 is a bit vague depending on the roundabout.

There one near us with two lanes onto the roundabout, two lanes around it but only one lane off it at 12. Mayhem.



+1. No excuse at all.

The city markings are under the fifth car that seems to be stopped at the lights.

Flippyfloppy

slimjimmc wrote: »

At this roundabout the "CITY" markings are at the start on the off ramp, and again at the entry to the roundabout where the "CITY" lane divides into two (Streetview) and repeated around the roundabout. If the OP was in the leftmost lane "CITY R108" (Streetview) then they were in the correct lane.

It's likely the other driver made a mistake and was blaming the OP but I can't rule out the possibility the OP upset him somewhere earlier.

Trust me, I was just chilled out driving along, stayed in the inside lane then the whole way up the m50, there's absolutely nothing I could have done to upset them!

beauf

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

The city markings are under the fifth car that seems to be stopped at the lights.

Didn't seem obvious from the photo posted. But its probably a lot clearer in reality.

Yawns

I agree OP that nothing excuses the guy's behavior at all. In fact, seeing where you pointed out that it happened, means he was in the wrong as he was changing lane into yours according to your pic. I had assumed earlier it happened while exiting the roundabout and maybe you switched to the right lane at that point ( still no excuse for his behavior ) but seeing as it happened back there he's just an ass.

FYI I would be in the right hand lane marked for City / M50 (S) if going to Ikea and taking that exit. There's always traffic and people not knowing what lane they want to be in or unable to guage the traffic flow ahead of them. It's easier to be in the right hand lane, stay in it coming off the roundabout and then changing again for the next junction leading to Ikea.

galljga1

Yeah, roundabouts with traffic lights, bizarre markings etc are a pain in the ar$e but what really pisses me off is some one entering a straightforward 2 lane 4 exit (or 1 entry, 3 exit if that is the correct way to describe it) roundabout in the left lane and exiting by the 3rd exit blocking your access to this exit/lane all the way around. It's not rocket science, it's simply following the rules of the road: if you are exiting by the first or second exit, enter in the left lane, else enter in the right lane.

Anyway minor gripe of mine which can annoy me some days, but have you had the pleasure of engaging the 'magic roundabout' somewhere around Luton, possibly Swindon? It is a pleasure... to survive.

Darraghmh91.

Iv met some lunatics on the walkinstown roundabout
Absolute crazy people and it's mad the amount of people that are in wrong lanes and don't indicate
I'd love if there was an aerial view over it to see what's goin on

NIMAN

Roundabouts aren't that commonplace in certain parts of Donegal, and I always enjoy coming to one near where I live to see cars sitting at the other 3 entrances, all looking at each other, none with any idea who has right of way to move off first!

But my real pet hate, and something that is very dangerous on the smaller ones, is people 'best lining' it around roundabouts, cutting you up in the process.

galljga1

NIMAN wrote: »

Roundabouts aren't that commonplace in certain parts of Donegal, and I always enjoy coming to one near where I live to see cars sitting at the other 3 entrances, all looking at each other, none with any idea who has right of way to move off first!

But my real pet hate, and something that is very dangerous on the smaller ones, is people 'best lining' it around roundabouts, cutting you up in the process.

What is best lining?

Frigga_92

beauf wrote: »

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-of-the-road-eng.pdf

Maybe I'm wrong, but the "city" markings don't seem to be on the road until after 12 O'Clock. That said I'm not really a fan of the clock rule as whats 12 is a bit vague depending on the roundabout.

There one near us with two lanes onto the roundabout, two lanes around it but only one lane off it at 12. Mayhem.



+1. No excuse at all.

I don't understand what you mean when you say "what's 12 can be a bit vague". If it's 12 o'clock it's 12 o'clock, if it's before 12 o'clock it's not 12 o'clock, if it's after 12 o'clock it's not 12 o'clock.

Frigga_92

galljga1 wrote: »

What is best lining?

I could be wrong but I think the poster is talking about drivers who pick the shortest route possible from their entrance to their exit on the roundabout, thus cutting across lanes.

punisher5112

Yeah my guess would be its meant to say straight lining.

Lanes and white lines mean nothing.

NIMAN

Yeah completely right.

It can be very dangerous, and often seen in small rural roundabouts, where people approaching in the left land who are going straight ahead go in a straight line to their exit, rather than looping round to the left which can often feel silly in a small roundabout.

Problem is, when they go straight, they are cutting up the person who is approaching in the right lane to turn right.

In this diagram, if the blue car goes straight to get to point3, then they will put the red car up on the roundabout!!

Kenny Logins

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

So I've done a screenshot that will show the situation a bit better, for the poster that asked if I'm sure I was in the correct lane. I'm 99.9% sure I was in the correct lane at the time although, yes I would have had to change lanes after the roundabout to get to ikea.

That was neither here nor there for the road rage couple imo. Looking at the location that it happened they had maybe assumed I'd be going straight through, given I was in the left lane. Must have thought so given their level of rage that I was still there when they decided to swerve into the lane halfway round the roundabout.

However the left lane on that road wouldn't need to be used by people going straight on, as you would just stay on the m50 instead of going up the slip road.

Just posting picture url because I'm having trouble adding a pic. http://flic.kr/p/rMJFkM just to add, that's me in the red line. The other car is the green line moving across into my lane.

That's rotated 90 degrees CCW. Confused the sh!te out of me for a few minutes.

Still have no idea what went wrong though..

beauf

Frigga_92 wrote: »

I don't understand what you mean when you say "what's 12 can be a bit vague". If it's 12 o'clock it's 12 o'clock, if it's before 12 o'clock it's not 12 o'clock, if it's after 12 o'clock it's not 12 o'clock.

On a big roundabout you often can't see the other side, or if it has plants and stuck on it. So you've no idea of the O'clock. Also as others have said many don't see a difference between 12 and 1 so just barrel through regardless

hmmm

Madzers is right, don't worry about them or give them a seconds further thought - if they're in the habit of hopping out of their car to abuse a female with kids in the back, they're going to pick on the wrong car some day.

wrt40

Assume everyone around you is an idiot and is about to do something stupid, stay back and let them do it. this is the reality of driving on Irish roads. If you find yourself in an incident or confrontation its because you haven't been paying enough attention, forget about the rules and who is right or wrong.

cruizer101

Yeah other person in the wrong definitely, tbh I would normally be on the right lane if going to ikea as have to get over bit furter down the road but nothing wrong with what you did.

Re the 12 o'clock thing, I know its the rule but I really don't get the logic of it. Surly the left lane for first or second exist makes far more sense, and definitely doesn't make sense for motorway roundabouts, where the 12 is back on to the motorway.

Re the turbo roundabouts I think they are great, there is a few on junctions on the M50, if people follow the lanes in them leads to far less lane changing as you just get guided around.

GavMan

As has been said it probably would have been handier if you had have been in Rocky Balboa's lane to begin with but the maneuver you were making was legal and there would have been ample opportunity to get into the right hand land after exiting the roundabout to make the turn for Ikea.

As a southside DCU grad, I know that roundabout well.

EazyD

I sometimes take that exit for Ikea and without fail am cut up nearly every time when I'm in the right lane, generally by MPV's and other family cars heading to Ikea but in the wrong lane. It gets fairly tiring.

hi5

beauf wrote: »

On a big roundabout you often can't see the other side, or if it has plants and stuck on it. So you've no idea of the O'clock. Also as others have said many don't see a difference between 12 and 1 so just barrel through regardless

It's 12 O'clock as read off the approaching sign.

doolox

When the council had lights on the Ballymun road interchange to the M50 south my daughters car was hit from behind when she had just moved off from the lights by a car approaching at full speed from behind. A lane change was involved and she was held jointly responsible for the accident and a claim was lodged against her in spite of the usual rule of being hit from behind. Her cars axle was broken off in the impact and the car was written off by the other car so I suspect there was speeding involved. AT that time the lane markings were faded and covered in muck and hard to see so there could have been doubt about the lane positioning etc.

Likewise on the Walkinstown rdbt I always stay on the leftmost lane and follow it all the way around so as not to be hit from the left side by an undertaking car, always keeping a eye out for cars pulling in from the right to exit the rdbt ahead of me. I keep it VERY SLOW as I do not know how such a 3 lane 5 exit monstrosity should work, I don't think anyone does.

I call it the Roundabout of doubt.

I might write a poem about it some day.

ardmacha

doolox wrote: »

Likewise on the Walkinstown rdbt I always stay on the leftmost lane and follow it all the way around so as not to be hit from the left side by an undertaking car, .

Without thinking about the fact that you are the undertaking car!

punisher5112

doolox you should go use any different road as you are the dangerous one.

Turtle-TM

NIMAN wrote: »

Yeah completely right.

It can be very dangerous, and often seen in small rural roundabouts, where people approaching in the left land who are going straight ahead go in a straight line to their exit, rather than looping round to the left which can often feel silly in a small roundabout.

Problem is, when they go straight, they are cutting up the person who is approaching in the right lane to turn right.

In this diagram, if the blue car goes straight to get to point3, then they will put the red car up on the roundabout!!

Roundabout at carrickmines/ballyogan road is rife for this kind of terrible driving! One of the main reasons I got a dashcam is the amount of times people come off the m50 sth bound and into the outer lane of the roundabout to go straight to ballyogan regardless if there is someone in the right lane coming from ballyogan to exit for carrickmines say.

jimmycrackcorm

Roundabouts could be dealt with better if the rules were simplified. In some cases lanes are clearly arrowed, others may have one or two exit lanes for one exit but a single exit for others and some that unless you are familiar, you may not see how many exits there are. Then if course there is the Walkinstown roundabout.

I think traffic would be much smoother and people manage easier if there was a single rule that you only use the left lane for the immediate exit. This works very well where it currently applies in many cases for left turn T junctions so I don't see the logic in saying that what lane you need to be in is determined instead by where you started and how many lanes are available at your exit. E.g. two lane entry and exit means use both lanes but single lane entry means your lane choice depends on how many exit choices are available.

Guy:Incognito

doolox wrote: »

When the council had lights on the Ballymun road interchange to the M50 south my daughters car was hit from behind when she had just moved off from the lights by a car approaching at full speed from behind. A lane change was involved and she was held jointly responsible for the accident and a claim was lodged against her in spite of the usual rule of being hit from behind. Her cars axle was broken off in the impact and the car was written off by the other car so I suspect there was speeding involved. AT that time the lane markings were faded and covered in muck and hard to see so there could have been doubt about the lane positioning etc.

Likewise on the Walkinstown rdbt I always stay on the leftmost lane and follow it all the way around so as not to be hit from the left side by an undertaking car, always keeping a eye out for cars pulling in from the right to exit the rdbt ahead of me. I keep it VERY SLOW as I do not know how such a 3 lane 5 exit monstrosity should work, I don't think anyone does.

I call it the Roundabout of doubt.

I might write a poem about it some day.

The Walkinstown roundabout works just fine and is very simple. It's people crossing lanes and not knowing where they are is the problem. All entries to the roundabout have 3 lanes, bar Ballymount. There are 6 exits. If people divided 6 by 3 and used lane 1 for exits 1 and 2, lane 2 for 3 and 4 , lane 3 for 5 and 6, it would be grand. 95% of traffic that I see in lane 1 just pull out straight and don't follow the lane markings, they go straight to the middle lane. Even if they're going straight through the roundabout. It's like the outside lane doesn't exist on the roundabout.

I had a guy go mad at me recently when he tried to cut across my lane and I didn't yield to him. We came from greenhills road and we're stopped at the roundabout. He's in the middle lane I'm to hos right. so we both pull off only he decides his line takes him to the right lane where I am and starts going mad. You just have to accept some people are idiots. There's so much stupidity on the roads you'd go mad thinking about it. It's so frustrating that people seem to find such simple things difficult.

doolox

And I take grave exception to an unqualified person saying that I am.

I stay in the left most lane to take the 2nd ( Ballymount) exit from the rdbt, entering the rdbt from R112, St Peters Rd

People cut into the middle lane and back in front of me to take the ballymount exit from R112 but I am not fast enough on the rear view mirrors to do this safely.

At least by eliminating the left hand undertaker by staying in the left most lane at all times I can keep an eye out for the right side guy speeding up to cut me off at the exit towards Ballymount. I stay slow and do not overtake anything that is moving on my right side, there will be nothing on my left side until I exit towards Ballymount. A lot of people seem to take straight lines to their exits risking side on collisions with other cars. I am not fast enough getting my eyes from front to left and right rear view mirrors to do this without losing fluency in my lane position and colliding with someone.

Trouble starts with people trying to get through this rdbt too fast and unnerving other road users.

A similar rdbt in Galway had to be converted to traffic light control in the mid 90's and eventually to conventional crossroads because people could not traverse it safely enough.

Look up the Magic Roundabout in Swindon for a real nightmare of truly epic proportions.

visual

Might be better if you planned a different route to avoid the roundabout altogether.

mikeecho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgX6qlJEMc

rizzla

Didn't want to make a new thread but just outside the Tallaght Hospital, they are after repainting the road markings and did up a new road layout, there's only one difference. The photo below is what the road markings used to show;



Now they are reversed. The right hand lane is for going straight, and turning right and the left hand lane is for going left only. Anyone else think this is an accident waiting to happen, it just goes against how you should go around a roundabout. I followed the markings and nearly got rear ended by someone following the old way.

slimjimmc

rizzla wrote: »

Now they are reversed. The right hand lane is for going straight, and turning right and the left hand lane is for going left only. Anyone else think this is an accident waiting to happen, it just goes against how you should go around a roundabout. I followed the markings and nearly got rear ended by someone following the old way.

There's a roundabout in Carlow town done exactly the same a couple years ago. Initially there were a few incidents mainly because the advance signage was late going up and road markings didn't start far enough back to be not concealed by queued up traffic. It all settled down pretty quickly and seems to work quite smoothly since.