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boyfriend watching porn

  • 12-04-2015 6:53pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25


    So I'm with my boyfriend about a year, we have a great relationship, great sex life...but for some reason if I'm off doing something and he's browsing the net, he will always go and watch porn, he's not using it to masturbate, most of the time I'm ok with it but other times it really affects my confidence, we have argued over it and last week he told me he would leave because I was trying to control him, should I just end it now or try to get over it????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭DukeOfTheSharp


    Honestly he's more than likely just watching it to kill some time, some people tend to do that. It really shouldn't be something you two argue about. I mean, have you explained that your confidence is shaken when he watches it sometimes? Maybe tell him that you're not asking him to stop, just to cut back a little bit, just for you?

    Basically, my advice would be this: sit down with him and explain to him how it's making you feel, that you don't want him to stop but maybe cut back and just explain to you why he watches it. Don't take an accusatory tone, don't let your feelings overwhelm your better judgement. What you have to remember is that him watching porn is nothing personal towards you, like you say you've a great sex life, it's just something he does. And, just as another alternative, maybe offer to watch some with him? If you meet him halfway, he might very well meet you halfway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Jasper_


    I would very much air on the side of trying to get over it.

    I have been in loving relationships and been having sex like its going out of fashion - and still looked at porn fairly regularly. Most men I know do, to varying degrees of course.

    If everything is healthy in your relationship, if your sex life is good and he is treating you with respect then leave him be. Maybe ask him to be a bit more discreet about it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    It's not like he's watching it instead of sleeping with you. Give him some privacy.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It sounds odd that he would threaten to leave over porn and makes me wonder if you have tried to control him in other ways?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Maybe if influences the sex you do have, sometimes people who watch porn a lot end up having porn style sex rather than loving in a relationship sex.


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    gsi300024v wrote: »
    Maybe if influences the sex you do have, sometimes people who watch porn a lot end up having porn style sex rather than loving in a relationship sex.

    The thing is that I've tried positions and tips I picked up from watching porn and usually the response is that it's fantastic. Instead of being offended, the OP should consider watching porn with her fella. Even saying things like, "let's try that!" Also "porn sex" is still real sex and while a lot of it is over exaggerated, it still is legitimate.

    However if they try to stop their fella masturbating, which seems to be part of the problem, then they definitely come across as a control freak. Spoiler: most people masturbate. Men and women. Even in relationships. You can dump this guy, but I can guarantee that the other guy she goes for will watch porn and masturbate too.

    Hell, the op even mentioned how it doesn't affect their sex life and they still have regular sex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Masturbation doesn't = pprn though, or at least it doesn't have to. I'd sure watch it with him. Just I'd be wondering too if I'd a partner who watched porn alot when they'd 5 mins to spare.
    For sure most men do it, but just because a lot of people do something, this doesn't mean it has no negative consequences. Not saying all porn watch has negative consequences.
    Sex can be amazing from the connection you get with someone not just amazing at the level of how you are physically stimulated.


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    gsi300024v wrote: »
    Masturbation doesn't = pprn though, or at least it doesn't have to. I'd sure watch it with him. Just I'd be wondering too if I'd a partner who watched porn alot when they'd 5 mins to spare.
    For sure most men do it, but just because a lot of people do something, this doesn't mean it has no negative consequences. Not saying all porn watch has negative consequences.
    Sex can be amazing from the connection you get with someone not just amazing at the level of how you are physically stimulated.

    But what's to say that the sex you have inspired by porn doesn't have a connection. There isn't one between the two actors because they don't know each other. But you and your partner do. There is already a connection. Trying something new doesn't remove this.

    The OP needs to work on their own self assuredness, because if they did then their partner watching porn wouldn't affect them.

    Porn sex is real sex. Relationship sex, as you put it.

    Also I still would be interested to know if the OP tries to control her fella in other ways, because THAT should be the real issue here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Porn sex is usually F45King, not saying it's not ok to do this in a relationship, I just think we are becoming too influenced by the sex we see in main stream porn.
    It's shaping what we think we should be doing in bed with our partners. I just see this as having more negatives than positives. That's all, you disagree, and that's fine. I respect your opinion.
    I think OP's reaction is quite common.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    Porn sex is usually F45King, not saying it's not ok to do this in a relationship, I just think we are becoming too influenced by the sex we see in main stream porn.
    It's shaping what we think we should be doing in bed with our partners. I just see this as having more negatives than positives. That's all, you disagree, and that's fine. I respect your opinion.
    I think OP's reaction is quite common.

    What are the possible negatives to two consenting adults agreeing to try something new? If anything some of the best sex I've had in a relationship has come from looking at porn and thinking, "that looks fun!"

    We are far too sexually conservative in this country and I absolutely welcome any changes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    I'm not saying we need to be sexually conservative either. I just think people watch porn and think that is what I should be doing or he/she should be doing with me. Porn seems to be all about the physical side and not much on the emotional side. I'm not saying porn can't be a healthy part of a couples relationship either, it can.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    I'm not saying we need to be sexually conservative either. I just think people watch porn and think that is what I should be doing or he/she should be doing with me. Porn seems to be all about the physical side and not much on the emotional side. I'm not saying porn can't be a healthy part of a couples relationship either, it can.

    So join in with them. It shouldn't be "it's what he should be doing with me" it should be "it should be what we could do together". Change the way you think and you could have so much fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    See I don't want porn telling me or the world how to act. I'm far from held back, my thinking is if both want to try something and no 3rd party gets hurt, sure why not. But we've different opinions, I don't want my sex life to look like a porn clip. That's just me. I want to make my own decisions.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 nashipear


    Hi guys, thanks so much for the replies, I don't control him at all, and I understand it's alot to do with my own confidence aswel, I have told him how I feel and he said He willcut down and try only do it when I'm not around, basically it all stems from when I first checked his fone, and found old videos and pictures of an ex, who I know from the town, one video was her pole dancing (I don't feel I need to do that to keep a man) and then on his Internet history saw he had been looking at escorts in the surrounding areas, after that I didn't talk to him, and he proposed to me with tears in his eyes, and told me he was just looking, and that he would never look again, during the fight we had he told me he had slept with a prostitute before to try and get through to me that he was telling the truth, now I really didn't need to know that! So ye...I Want to spend the rest of my life with hiM and we plan for the future but I'm just afraid in however many years I will find out that he has gotten bored of our sex and either cheat or move on to someone else...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 nashipear


    This all sounds a bit Jeremy kyle I know...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    nashipear wrote: »
    Hi guys, thanks so much for the replies, I don't control him at all, and I understand it's alot to do with my own confidence aswel, I have told him how I feel and he said He willcut down and try only do it when I'm not around, basically it all stems from when I first checked his fone, and found old videos and pictures of an ex, who I know from the town, one video was her pole dancing (I don't feel I need to do that to keep a man) and then on his Internet history saw he had been looking at escorts in the surrounding areas, after that I didn't talk to him, and he proposed to me with tears in his eyes, and told me he was just looking, and that he would never look again, during the fight we had he told me he had slept with a prostitute before to try and get through to me that he was telling the truth, now I really didn't need to know that! So ye...I Want to spend the rest of my life with hiM and we plan for the future but I'm just afraid in however many years I will find out that he has gotten bored of our sex and either cheat or move on to someone else...


    I'm not sure I'd be staying with him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    ok am i getting this straight?

    - you are together a year
    - his hobby of watching porn upset's you but does not interfere with your sex life
    - you argue over this and he in one argument threatens to leave you and in another proposes to you?
    - he thinks you are trying to control him
    - you have checked his phone and internet browsing history
    - he has told you that he has slept with a prostitute (before you dated) and you are not ok with this?
    - you plan for the future while thinking he will cheat or move on to someone else.

    Op from what i can see the answer is quite simple, relationships really don't need this kind of drama,

    as for the porn issue, it's one of those things that divides opinions, some people are fine with it, others are not, nether is "Right" or "Wrong" but what is clear is you and your boyfriend are on opposite sides on this one and you won't agree anytime soon, it is unfair for you to request he stop looking at it especially as it isn't a problem for him, likewise it is unfair to ask you to "put up" with something you are so uncomfortable with.

    it to me seems like you are just not compatible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Calclor wrote: »
    Do you actually think anyone is suggesting you can'take make your own decisions and you have to copy what you see in port?

    I do not think this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Op did he look for escorts while with you? That in itself would be a dealbreaker. No wonder you don't trust him. Did you sit down and talk about why he would do that when he has you?
    And the porn, well as one poster says above it really is a personal thing..me personally I can't stay with a man who will look at it whilst in a relationship with me, and that's just my personal preference, just like some people will not date a smoker/drug user. I have my reasons for this (non religious) and any relationship I've been in they know this from early on.
    The thing is you really can't change people I dont think. They have to want to and have valid reasons within themselves to change their behavior. He sees you as trying to control him and that sounds like hes not really willing to listen to your concerns and either give up or compromise for you. It really is your choice what you're willing to put up with and for your own reasons. Be confident and stand by them and dont put up with less than you feel you need and deserve in a relationship. Nobody can tell you not to be hurt or feel betrayed when that's what you feel. Has he been lying about it and hiding it? sometimes it's the constant deceit that is worse than the actual action that hurts you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Stavro Mueller


    The more I read about this the more I think you should leave. I don't have any particular problem with people watching porn but this guy's relationship with it doesn't sound healthy at all. What I find more alarming is what you posted in your update
    Basically it all stems from when I first checked his phone
    Why were you checking his phone? Is it because you didn't trust him?
    Found old videos and pictures of an ex, who I know from the town, one video was her pole dancing (I don't feel I need to do that to keep a man)
    For starters, keeping old photos and videos of an ex on your phone is disrespectful in my book. Especially if it's one of her pole-dancing. It's one thing to look at a video of some anonymous woman pole-dancing, quite another if it was a woman you went out with and had sex with.
    It's interesting that you're saying you feel you don't need to do that to keep a man. It's as if you're on the back foot already and don't feel that you're interesting or daring enough for him.
    Then on his Internet history saw he had been looking at escorts in the surrounding areas, after that I didn't talk to him, and he proposed to me with tears in his eyes, and told me he was just looking, and that he would never look again
    Again, you're showing that you don't trust him. I don't blame you by the way. Though I'm sure someone is going to come along and lecture you about looking at other people's phones and internet history.
    I don't buy for one second that "just looking" excuse and I don't believe you do either. Then he throws in the world's most insincere marriage(?) proposal, presumably as a way of throwing water on the flames.
    During the fight we had he told me he had slept with a prostitute before to try and get through to me that he was telling the truth, now I really didn't need to know that!
    Oh but I think you really do need to know. I think you've been brushing the red flags under the carpet because you've built up a future with him in your mind. There's just the pesky inconveniences of the frequent, indiscreet porn watching, the searching for escorts, sleeping with a prostitute. You can't assume that it's just the one prostitute he slept with either. People tend to minimise the bad things they've done. He didn't tell you this for your own benefit
    So ye...I want to spend the rest of my life with him and we plan for the future but I'm just afraid in however many years I will find out that he has gotten bored of our sex and either cheat or move on to someone else...

    OK so you want to spend the rest of your life with him but are you 100% sure that it is the right thing to do? In my opinion the porn's the least of your problems. The guy is actively looking up hookers and has demonstrated that he's not above having sex with them. If it was me I'd be gone.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 nashipear


    Well to be perfectly honest I just looked at his phone because I'm insecure from a previous relationship, and part of me is just nosey...your making so much sense, if it wasn't for all this it would be perfect, my family and friends always say how we are so perfect together, which we are, I'm going to think today of how I can approach this assertively, then I suppose that's it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Stavro Mueller


    nashipear wrote: »
    Well to be perfectly honest I just looked at his phone because I'm insecure from a previous relationship, and part of me is just nosey...you're making so much sense, if it wasn't for all this it would be perfect, my family and friends always say how we are so perfect together, which we are, I'm going to think today of how I can approach this assertively, then I suppose that's it!

    I think your family and friends would say something entirely different if they knew what was really going on. Someone who looks up escorts doesn't do so for the pretty pictures. How can you be sure he isn't continuing to have sex with prostitutes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Stavro Mueller


    In a way it's funny that he's the one complaining about you trying to control him. Really it's the other way around. Because of his "out there, loud and proud" porn usage and telling you about the prostitute, he has you on a sticky wicket. He has told you what he's like basically and you've no grounds for complaint. So either you like it or lump it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭davmol


    Im sure alot of women would rather their lad be knocking one out than down in the local boozer pulling out of some randy oul one.

    99% of lads watch porn and the other 1% are spoofers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    davmol wrote: »
    Im sure alot of women would rather their lad be knocking one out than down in the local boozer pulling out of some randy oul one.

    99% of lads watch porn and the other 1% are spoofers.

    Lets say we're lads who don't watch porn, and our gf watches a lot of it, would we be ok with it? As in we go out to make tea, pause the movie we watching and they watching porn?
    Men who are in better shape then us, bigger man hood? Would we be grand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    The porn is not the big issue here, it's the lack of trust, the need to snoop around and the emotional blackmail.

    You're lacking in confidence and trust, which is leading you to do something a healthy person doesn't, snoop around.

    He's got what sound dangerously close to a sex addiction problem if he's incapable of leaving the porn alone for any length of time, or looking at escorts while in a sexually satisfied long term relationship.

    Lastly, he shouldn't manipulate your feelings like he is, and should recognise that making you feel insecure and threatened isn't something a loving partner does.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have an objection to porn, on a lot of levels.

    It is important to me therefore that my partner would share the same values and it would be a problem for me if he was into porn.

    It's important for the health of any relationship for both partners to agree on issues that are strongly held beliefs for them. To me it would signal that you're wrong for each other.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 nashipear


    davmol wrote: »

    99% of lads watch porn and the other 1% are spoofers.

    I've asked guy friends and the ones who are able to hold down a relationship don't watch porn and the friend who said it's OK to watch porn is the one who's the town man slut


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 nashipear


    My boyfriend also says that^^^^


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Not a massive survey there guys. But if I was a in a relationship I'd prefer partner to not watch much porn versus one who watches it everytime i went to make us both a cup of tea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dog of Tears


    It doesn't really matter all the 'porn is great, what's the problem you prude' replies you invariably get on these forums.

    If you think it's a problem - then it's a problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Stavro Mueller


    I wish the subject line of this thread wasn't about the boyfriend watching porn. Because that is a mere sideshow. He looks up escorts locally . Has had sex with prostitutes. Keeps a video of his ex poledancing on his phone. That is a far cry from someone looking at pornotubey sites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Generally an unhealthily relationship with sex one might say?
    How old are you both?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭davmol


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    Lets say we're lads who don't watch porn, and our gf watches a lot of it, would we be ok with it? As in we go out to make tea, pause the movie we watching and they watching porn?
    Men who are in better shape then us, bigger man hood? Would we be grand?

    My other half loves pron and we have a great sex life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭davmol


    nashipear wrote: »
    I've asked guy friends and the ones who are able to hold down a relationship don't watch porn and the friend who said it's OK to watch porn is the one who's the town man slut

    I watch porn and have never had any relationship issues nor have my friends.My group about 12+ lads all woudl admit to watching porn and every one of us has a long term partner/wife and the majority have kids.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    davmol wrote: »
    I watch porn and have never had any relationship issues nor have my friends.My group about 12+ lads all woudl admit to watching porn and every one of us has a long term partner/wife and the majority have kids.

    Would they admit to using prostitutes if they had used them? Or cheating or all the other stuff that's so easy to hide?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    davmol wrote: »
    My other half loves pron and we have a great sex life.

    Maybe it's same as booze, some people have an unhealthy relationship with booze or gambling etc, some have a problem with it, could it be the same with sex/porn, some it improves their relationships and some it negatively impacts them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭davmol


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    Would they admit to using prostitutes if they had used them? Or cheating or all the other stuff that's so easy to hide?

    Im lost,just cos you watch porn doesnt mean you will use a hooker.

    If I watch 'trainspotting' it doesnt mean im going to go out and do gear.

    I also like watching peole base jump but id never do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭LadyAthame


    saw he had been looking at escorts in the surrounding areas, after that I didn't talk to him, and he proposed to me with tears in his eyes, and told me he was just looking,

    That is a very dysfunctional relationship. He proposed to get out of a bind. He is probably still looking and going to hookers in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Agreed.

    Do you hide that you watch people base jumping from your wife? Do you look at for hours everyday? Do you ring up places asking how much it is to base jump? Have you done base jumping in the past? Do you watch trainspotting for hrs a day on your phone anytime your gf is out of the room? Do you ring up and find the price of gear in the local area. Have you used gear in the past? Are you hiding the fact you watch trainspotting on your laptop and clearing your history before letting your gf use it. Are you annoyed when your gf catches you looking at trainspotting.
    You are comparing apples with oranges. I'm guessing you do not use porn in the way that guy does?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Stavro Mueller


    davmol wrote: »
    Im lost,just cos you watch porn doesnt mean you will use a hooker.

    If I watch 'trainspotting' it doesnt mean im going to go out and do gear.

    I also like watching peole base jump but id never do it.

    OP's boyfriend has used a Hooker or Hookers. Looks up escorts online. That is not the same was watching porn. It is more proactive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    It sounds odd that he would threaten to leave over porn and makes me wonder if you have tried to control him in other ways?
    from subsequent posts I'd consider leaving if i was him. they don't seem to be on the same wavelength .
    I think your family and friends would say something entirely different if they knew what was really going on. Someone who looks up escorts doesn't do so for the pretty pictures. How can you be sure he isn't continuing to have sex with prostitutes?

    tbh I and others I know look at those sites for amusements.
    I have visited myself when single but never when seeing somebody. some of my friends would have never gone to see a lady of the night but would looks at those pages for amusement/porn alternative.


  • Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    nashipear wrote: »
    I've asked guy friends and the ones who are able to hold down a relationship don't watch porn and the friend who said it's OK to watch porn is the one who's the town man slut
    nashipear wrote: »
    My boyfriend also says that^^^^

    What?? Your boyfriend (who watches porn a lot, even when you're around) says that people who don't watch porn are better able to hold down a relationship and the one who does watch porn is the town "man slut"??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭Meauldsegosha


    nashipear wrote: »
    I've asked guy friends and the ones who are able to hold down a relationship don't watch porn and the friend who said it's OK to watch porn is the one who's the town man slut

    I'm not sure how many guy friends you asked but I would guess 80-85% of them lied to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    I heard in the states they wanted to do a study about something, they wanted a group of str men who looked at porn and a group who didn't for the study. They couldn't do the study because they couldn't find enough str men who don't look at.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Stavro Mueller


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    I heard in the states they wanted to do a study about something, they wanted a group of str men who looked at porn and a group who didn't for the study. They couldn't do the study because they couldn't find enough str men who don't look at.

    Yes but that is not the issue here. OP'S boyfriend does it in a very much in your face sort of way. All the time. That coupled with the ex gf 's poledancing video on his phone, looking up escorts and having slept with at least one prostitute points to a man who's prepared to go further than most men. It's ok for the OP not to like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭north_star_33


    You would consider your relationship because your bf is looking at some porn.

    psssssssssttttttt...i got news for ya....

    him and most other blokes out there...

    If hes a good guy and treats ya right then as a famous liverpudlian said "let it be"

    You do sound a bit controlling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    You would consider your relationship because your bf is looking at some porn.

    psssssssssttttttt...i got news for ya....

    him and most other blokes out there...

    If hes a good guy and treats ya right then as a famous liverpudlian said "let it be"

    You do sound a bit controlling

    Would you like your partner having a clip on their phone of an ex doing a sex dance for you?
    I'd not be mad on it, ringing around prosituties? You'd be ok with it. I suppose some would be ok with all this, but OP is not ok and still partner does it.
    OP I wouldn't see you as controlling, would be interesting though, what might your partner say you could improve on? Either something he's never said but you suspect he might or something he's said and it's not changed, is he trying to punish you or acting out for some reason?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭north_star_33


    My partner is dead sound..knows i have a string of ex's ...knows my past....isnt controlling and knows about the porno situation...

    Im only replying to what im reading and its funny you didnt reply to what i said...uf hes a good guy and treats her good...he should be entitled to privacy ..not rowing about porno sites..

    thats just silly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    My partner is dead sound..knows i have a string of ex's ...knows my past....isnt controlling and knows about the porno situation...

    Im only replying to what im reading and its funny you didnt reply to what i said...uf hes a good guy and treats her good...he should be entitled to privacy ..not rowing about porno sites..

    thats just silly

    What about that? Would you mind gf keeping a sexy dance an ex did for them on their phone?
    I don't see it the same as complaining about someone having ex's ?


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