Why don't Nokia make phones anymore?

blue5000

Well maybe they do, with google or some other conglomerate. But you know what I mean, iphones are all fine and dandy until you drop it from waist height and then you have a €185 repair bill, whereas with a nokia you could drop it from 3 stories up and it would still work.

Texting these days is a PIA, did they deliberately make it awkward so we would just call everyone instead?

What about battery life? Nokia could go for 3 or 4 days without charging, these days we'd be doing well to get 24 hrs out of an iphone.

Rant over, am I the only one who misses the old nokias?

everlast75

"Before before. You're living in the past Marge - quit living in the past!"

super_furry

They do in a manner of speaking. Microsoft bought them so pretty much any Windows phone you buy now is a Nokia.

murpho999

Nokia phones is now owned by Microsoft so you won't see their phones anymore apart from the Lumia AFAIK.

hfallada

Low resoultion LED uses very little power and having a tiny screen helps(most car radios have a better screen than most old Nokias). Plus there was no data or Wifi on old phones,meaning the battery lasted a lot longer. We also didnt use over phones that much back then. I easily use my phone about 4 hours a day and I dont even make calls on it.

Guy:Incognito

blue5000 wrote: »

Well maybe they do, with google or some other conglomerate. But you know what I mean, iphones are all fine and dandy until you drop it from waist height and then you have a €185 repair bill, whereas with a nokia you could drop it from 3 stories up and it would still work.

Texting these days is a PIA, did they deliberately make it awkward so we would just call everyone instead?

What about battery life? Nokia could go for 3 or 4 days without charging, these days we'd be doing well to get 24 hrs out of an iphone.

Rant over, am I the only one who misses the old nokias?

Ah yes, Nokia, that plucky little one man company that has operated out of a garage all these years.

BTW, "nokias" didnt have long battery lives etc, "phones" did (and still do, you can buy non smart phones) All the manufacturers made similar phones, then they moved on when people wanted more.

Duggy747

Microsoft put an end to the Nokia brand you know and love, they're just weren't performing as good in the market against other brands for the past few years.

An iPhone (or most smartphones) have a ton of features and high quality screens that drink battery life. An old Nokia would last days because it had feck all draining it and we didn't use phones nowhere near as much as we do nowadays.

AndyBoBandy

blue5000 wrote: »

What about battery life? Nokia could go for 3 or 4 days without charging

Don't you mean 3-4 weeks?

for about 11 years (1999-2010) I always had the latest Nokia phones before switching to iPhone, and some of them would go 2 weeks+ on a full charge!

(Incidentally in 5 years of being an iPhone owner (3GS, 4, 5 & 6), I've never broken a screen once.

super_furry

In fairness your comparing the battery life in a very basic phone to that on a powerful pocket computer and entertainment device that happens to have a built-in phone.

K4t

I've never owned a smartphone but the best mobile phone I ever had possessed a flashlight; invaluable in tight situations, and while having sex in the dark.

AndyBoBandy

K4t wrote: »

the best mobile phone I ever had possessed a flashlight; invaluable in tight situations, and while having sex in the dark.

and you always had the vibrate function available to finish the job off in emergency situations.

caff

http://www.doro.ie/products/Mobile-phones-and-accessories/ or maybe http://www.catphones.com/en-gb/phones/

LDN_Irish

You can get a Samsung for 10 euro in Tesco that will do all the things the old Nokia did just as well. Except Snake, which is a shame.

Adamantium

The 3310 is the mortal enemy of planned obsolescence.

Dr Strangelove and how I learned to love the 3310.

Stevek101

http://www.microsoft.com/en/mobile/phone/215/

Adamantium

I remember back in 2003 I was trekking through wartorn Baghdad when a stray 50 calibre sniper bullet hit me directly in the chest. Luckily I had my Nokia 3310 in my breast pocket, which deflected the bullet and blew up a tank.

A few years later, whilst on a business trip to Paris I decided to visit the Eiffel Tower. Whilst raising my phone into the air to try and attain signal (I was on Tesco Mobile) a 20m wide meteor happened to strike me directly. Luckily the meteor completely disintegrated upon contact with my trusty 3310, earning me the Légion d'Honneur.

Slightly embarrassingly, I have dropped my phone once or twice. I seem to remember once on holiday in Haiti in 2010, and again visiting Fukushima in 2011.

This phone has served me very well, and still does to this day.

Peregrine

K4t wrote: »

I've never owned a smartphone but the best mobile phone I ever had possessed a flashlight; invaluable in tight situations, and while having sex in the dark.

Pretty much every smartphone has a flashlight.

Hande hoche!

I'm still using a Nokia. This one:

http://www.wired.com/2013/08/nokias-nicest-dumbphon/

nokia69

I still use a nokia

I switch between a 3210 and a 3410

LDN_Irish

nokia69 wrote: »

I still use a nokia

I switch between a 3210 and a 3410

I was wondering when you'd turn up. The 3210 was a beast but the 3310 was my fave phone of the Noughties.

Outkast_IRE

If you want to text quickly then blackberry is your only choice, with a real keyboard.

nokia69

LDN_Irish wrote: »

I was wondering when you'd turn up. The 3210 was a beast but the 3310 was my fave phone of the Noughties.

yeah I had one a while ago but lost it :mad:

still plenty of them on ebay

jjbrien

Still on the market a quick search of Caprphone Warehouse found me these

http://www.carphonewarehouse.ie/action/searchsite/nokia/1

Still use a Nokia.

Do a lot of outdoor sports, trail running etc. If I am gonna fall into a boghole, I wanna take about €30 of technology, with no important info, down with me.

El Weirdo

blue5000 wrote: »

...Texting these days is a PIA...

If you're a moron, maybe. It's way easier to text nowadays.

And with smartphones you have a qwerty keyboard so no excuse for txtspk.

Seve OB

LDN_Irish wrote: »

You can get a Samsung for 10 euro in Tesco that will do all the things the old Nokia did just as well. Except Snake, which is a shame.

All is not lost my friend


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsd164.snake97

the_barfly1

Adamantium wrote: »

I remember back in 2003 I was trekking through wartorn Baghdad when a stray 50 calibre sniper bullet hit me directly in the chest. Luckily I had my Nokia 3310 in my breast pocket, which deflected the bullet and blew up a tank.

A few years later, whilst on a business trip to Paris I decided to visit the Eiffel Tower. Whilst raising my phone into the air to try and attain signal (I was on Tesco Mobile) a 20m wide meteor happened to strike me directly. Luckily the meteor completely disintegrated upon contact with my trusty 3310, earning me the Légion d'Honneur.

Slightly embarrassingly, I have dropped my phone once or twice. I seem to remember once on holiday in Haiti in 2010, and again visiting Fukushima in 2011.

This phone has served me very well, and still does to this day.

I made a real life lol to this. You win the internet.

TrustedApple

Crazy thing i was reading about the sale of nokia to Microsoft is that nokia can start making phones again EG smart phones they can still sell there old school ones with no fancy apps.

In the next year so expect to see Android based phones from nokia

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/21/cheer_up_europeans_nokia_can_make_mobes_again_in_18_months/

Link to said proof

DivingDuck

Comparing the old Nokias with modern smartphones is like comparing a stick and a hoop with Monopoly. More parts mean more opportunities for things to go wrong. Smaller parts often mean diminished structural strength. You put up with the compromise for the increased capability.

Today's phones are less hardy because the materials necessary to deliver large, full-colour, high-res screens, tens of GB of memory, wifi and 4G, and app/game capability, are more fragile, and the knock-on effect of damage is greater. Battery life is lower because the device requires more power to do all these things and also because, as pointed out already, people use their phones more now.

I have a "dumb phone" (although I hate that term) I use occasionally when I am going somewhere I think my iPhone might get lost/stolen/dropped or when I need really long battery life and only the ability to make/take calls. Useful as it is to have the backup, I could never go back. Texting on those old phones was a nightmare for me, and not having the internet in my pocket is a real drag.

DivingDuck

DivingDuck wrote: »

I have a "dumb phone" (although I hate that term) I use occasionally when I am going somewhere I think my iPhone might get lost/stolen/dropped or when I need really long battery life and only the ability to make/take calls.

Are they called "feature phones" or something like that?

DivingDuck

Deleted User wrote: »

Are they called "feature phones" or something like that?

That's the sales term, although I'm not sure that's any better.

The only real feature of them is decent battery life-- and the fact that if you get robbed, your attacker will probably feel so sorry for you that he'll give you money.

Grayson

I have a nokia lumia 925. Its a great phone.
Even if you ignore the windows is, the phone is great. Nokia still show a lot of ingenuity. The best cameras on phones are on Nokia's. The best mapping software is Nokia's Here maps. Nokia aren't gone yet.

DivingDuck

DivingDuck wrote: »

The only real feature of them is decent battery life...

Cheap and durable.

The only thing I want in a phone is the communication bit, calls or texts.

Knex*

Nim wrote: »

Pretty much every smartphone has a flashlight.

I hear the iPhone 7 will even have a fleshlight.

DivingDuck

Deleted User wrote: »

Cheap and durable.

The only thing I want in a phone is the communication bit, calls or texts.

I can't text without a QWERTY keyboard, and never could-- everyone always knows when I have that phone with me, because all anyone ever gets is Y/N/? or similar. As for communication, I personally use the internet for that far more than calls or texts. A smartphone is consequently an essential part of my personal daily kit, though I know that's not the case for everyone.

Can't knock the old style phones for calling, though; they do the job just as well. I've never noticed a difference in call quality, either.

I will be interested to see how Nokia/Windows phones develop in the future. That's what I had before I moved over to iPhone, and they've always been a favourite of mine. It would be nice to see them doing well and regaining some market share.

jayo26

Part of the Nokia sale was they weren't allowed make a new phone for a period of time but they have already made android tablets that have 3g signal so in The next year or so Nokia will be back with android on board will prob be better then the current Lumia,
I have the 930 and I started off loving it but ended up hating it apart from the camera,

jimmii

Nokia 215 release date this month! This was actually anounced at CES must be the first non-giant smartphone type handset that has been announced there in years!

Badly Drunk Boy

I bought a €39.99 Nokia last year when my old phone died. A charge usually lasts over a week which is what I look for first, especially when going to festivals. I wouldn't go mad for apps but it has some, even though it's not a smartphone. I'd use the internet on it sometimes, but I really need to as I'm usually not too far from my work or home laptops.

daveyeh

LDN_Irish wrote: »

the 3310 was my fave phone of the Noughties.

Knob

SpaceTime

murpho999 wrote: »

Nokia phones is now owned by Microsoft so you won't see their phones anymore apart from the Lumia AFAIK.

MS only bought Nokia's handset division and only had a limited window during which they had a license to use the Nokia name.

Nokia is focused on network gear these days just like Ericsson.

Nokia could actually re-enter the smartphone market under the Nokia brand anytime after 31/12/2015 as MS doesn't have rights to use the name on smartphones.

They did give MS a 10 year deal for using Nokia's TM on feature phones however.

Nothing would stop Nokia re emerging in 2016 with a range of high end android devices for example.

c_man

I recently bought new Nokia's (non smart phones) for the parents. They're fantastic, the battery is seriously long, they're dead light and they've retained the old Nokia interface which is perfect for my technophobe auld pair. Were only something like E50 each.

Spunge

My new phone is a Nokia
thanks for making me feel bad

ScumLord

I got a nokia lumia 920 and it was like the good old days, you could quite literally hammer a nail in with it and it was a smart phone. I was sold on nokia and windows phone based on my experience with that phone. Upgraded it to the 930 and I've had enough of windows phones. It was one of the worst smart phones I've bought in a while. It was fragile, it broke instantly and generally wasn't a patch on the 920. I took it as a sign of things to come with the move to Microsoft and will be moving to android.


Microsoft seem to be developing a track record for ruining things these days.

Spunge

i think the windows lumia phones are great, low cost with high quality (except yeah, the apps are useless). Wouldnt be worth buying higher end ones though, extra hardware that will probably not be utilized.

LDN_Irish

Seve OB wrote: »

All is not lost my friend


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsd164.snake97

Good man! I can't believe I never thought to check the app store. That's about to overtake GTA SA as the best game on my tab.

LDN_Irish

daveyeh wrote: »

Knob

Ha. You must prefer Sieman.

SpaceTime

You have to drop iPhones just right to break the screens though!

To be fair, they're not that fragile compared to anything else. If you happen to hit a screen at just the optimum point it'll crack. Because there are probably more iPhones % wise than most other models you just hear more horror stories.

My dad smashes two recent MS Nokias.

If you've a case that protrudes very slightly you'll avoid most cracks as you don't hit the phone edge on.

anncoates

I use my phone for reading books, phone calls, games, texts, taking photos; maps, browsing, Sat Nav; music, and video.

I used my Nokia for calls, basic text and snake on a horrible little screen.

So no, the fact that I have to charge it every day and buy a protective cover isn't a big deal.

jimmynokia

Nokia Will return in 2016,foxconn built their N1 tablet,so whats happened here is that the name has been sold to use on a product,there is nothing stopping nokia building a handset in 2016 if not one under way already.

MS will use the NOKIA name on dumphones or feature phones for a bit yet but these will be far and few between now,MS killed the X platform ( which was an utterly pointless exercise in the first place thinking people would use a skinned droid to get them onto the windows platform) ,having said that i have the X1 and X 2 (Android) and they not bad at all i must say..

Depraved

I think it had something to do with that Transformers movie. Everyone was scared of Nokia phones after that scene where they demonstrated the 'allspark' on the phone.

Also, Nokia had a very bad business strategy of making a product that didn't break. Unlike certain other companies that sell you a phone 'designed' to break just after the warranty expires...thus encouraging you to buy a new phone. And people stick to what they know. Not many will switch from an Apple to an Android phone or vice versa.

It's like Bendix washing machines. Yes...I know you've never heard of them. They made fantastic washing machines. Family had one when I was a kid and it last 14 years. That level of reliability is actually what put them out of business. They only ever sold one product to each person/family.