Dopram

Miname

has any one here ever used dopram or even heard of it. I was talking to a lad last week who's vet gave it too a newborn calf that he thought was dead and he reckoned the calf more or less jumped back to life. I've googled it and surprised to even hear of it to be honest.

Connemara Farmer

I got it years ago, Dopram V drops by Fort Dodge I think they were. Only had cause to use them once, one a very big lamb that was absolutely strangled during birth. I am convinced they are what brought him back to life. Haven't laid eyes on them since.

Base price

Had it here years ago when we kept sucklers, used to come in a little bottle and you drew it out the same way as you would an antibiotic. Only every had to use it a couple of time. Squirted it in under the tongue. I have vague memories of the vet telling me in severe cases it could be injected into the underside of the tongue but I never seen it done.

Kovu

Just when you mention under the tongue Base Price I have a vague recollection of it being used more often years ago, remember a vet explaining it to me after we used it on a sectioned calf. She wasn't that fond of using it, dunno why. The reasoning behind injecting/squirting under the tongue was all the capillaries there to allow for faster absorption. Although that vet also said she thought the pain of the needle being injected into their gob was as likely to stimulate them

Often pinched dopey calves under the tongue for a minute for the same reasoning, quite possibly does nothing but no harm to them.

Base price

Kovu wrote: »

Just when you mention under the tongue Base Price I have a vague recollection of it being used more often years ago, remember a vet explaining it to me after we used it on a sectioned calf. She wasn't that fond of using it, dunno why. The reasoning behind injecting/squirting under the tongue was all the capillaries there to allow for faster absorption. Although that vet also said she thought the pain of the needle being injected into their gob was as likely to stimulate them

Often pinched dopey calves under the tongue for a minute for the same reasoning, quite possibly does nothing but no harm to them.

I think it is a one off treatment and you only have one go using it. Think it can cause heart attacks but again I pulling on information from 20 years ago.
Maybe Greysides can throw more light on it.
Also would pull calves tongues here if they were a bit dopey.

Mad4simmental

It sounds like an adrenalin shot to try kick start the hart?

Base price

Just did a google search and it is described as a respiratory stimulant
http://www.hpra.ie/img/uploaded/swedocuments/LicenseSPC_10019-134-001_24012014155958.pdf

greysides

Base price wrote: »

I think it is a one off treatment and you only have one go using it. Think it can cause heart attacks but again I pulling on information from 20 years ago.

From the datasheet: Excessive doses may produce hyperventilation which may be followed by reduced carbon dioxide tension in the blood,
cerebral vasoconstriction, hypoxia, and possible brain damage.

Miname

greysides wrote: »

From the datasheet: Excessive doses may produce hyperventilation which may be followed by reduced carbon dioxide tension in the blood,
cerebral vasoconstriction, hypoxia, and possible brain damage.

Give me that in basic terms please grey sides.

Kovu

Miname wrote: »

Give me that in basic terms please grey sides.

They'd be fcuked

ganmo

Used it once on a lamb, it only lived for 12 hours after though

greysides

Miname wrote: »

Give me that in basic terms please grey sides.

Sorry.

Excessive doses may produce hyperventilation which may be followed by reduced carbon dioxide tension in the blood,
cerebral vasoconstriction, hypoxia, and possible brain damage.

I presume what is meant is that over-stimulating the respiratory centres in the brain would cause excessively rapid breathing which would remove the carbon dioxide from the blood. The blood's carbon dioxide level is what stimulates breathing normally. This would then cause constriction of the blood vessels in the brain which despite what could be high blood oxygen levels could reduce oxygen availability to the brain and cause damage.